8x8 Express (discontinued) vs. HCL Sametime

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
8x8 Express (discontinued)
Score 7.3 out of 10
N/A
8x8 Express was a cloud-based phone system that included unlimited calling within the U.S and Canada, HD video conferencing, business SMS and team chat, pre-configured. As of March 2023 8x8 Express is end of sale and no longer available.N/A
HCL Sametime
Score 7.6 out of 10
N/A
HCL Sametime (formerly IBM Lotus Sametime, acquired by HCL Technologies from IBM in 2018) is an enterprise-level unified communications and VoIP platform. It includes features such as instant messaging, web conferencing, voice and video integration, telephony capabilities, and presence information.N/A
Pricing
8x8 Express (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
8x8 Express (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Free Trial
YesNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
8x8 Express (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Top Pros
Top Cons
Features
8x8 Express (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Performance & Compatibility of Online Events Software
Comparison of Performance & Compatibility of Online Events Software features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
8.0
6 Ratings
1% below category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
High quality audio8.06 Ratings00 Ratings
High quality video8.03 Ratings00 Ratings
Screen Sharing
Comparison of Screen Sharing features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
8.5
2 Ratings
6% above category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
Desktop sharing8.52 Ratings00 Ratings
Online Meetings / Events
Comparison of Online Meetings / Events features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
8.7
2 Ratings
9% above category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
Calendar integration9.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Meeting initiation8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Record meetings / events9.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Online Events Collaboration
Comparison of Online Events Collaboration features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
8.5
2 Ratings
10% above category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
Live chat8.52 Ratings00 Ratings
Online Events Security
Comparison of Online Events Security features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
9.3
5 Ratings
21% above category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
User authentication9.05 Ratings00 Ratings
Participant roles & permissions9.54 Ratings00 Ratings
Cloud PBX
Comparison of Cloud PBX features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
8.0
6 Ratings
2% below category average
HCL Sametime
8.4
7 Ratings
2% above category average
Hosted PBX7.54 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Multi-level Interactive Voice Response (IVR)8.05 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Directory of employee names8.66 Ratings8.07 Ratings
User templates00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call reports00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call Management
Comparison of Call Management features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
8.9
6 Ratings
8% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
5% below category average
Answering rules9.06 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Call recording9.05 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call park9.04 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Call screening9.34 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Message alerts9.25 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Business SMS/External Messaging8.54 Ratings00 Ratings
Online Fax8.01 Ratings00 Ratings
Voicemail Transcription9.05 Ratings00 Ratings
Mobile apps
Comparison of Mobile apps features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
9.7
3 Ratings
12% above category average
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
4% below category average
Mobile app for iOS9.73 Ratings8.08 Ratings
Mobile app for Android9.62 Ratings8.07 Ratings
Unified Communications Platform and Collaboration
Comparison of Unified Communications Platform and Collaboration features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
7.1
5 Ratings
6% below category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
Centralized communications management8.05 Ratings00 Ratings
Team messaging8.24 Ratings00 Ratings
Team document sharing6.01 Ratings00 Ratings
Call and meeting analytics6.03 Ratings00 Ratings
VoIP system collaboration
Comparison of VoIP system collaboration features of Product A and Product B
8x8 Express (discontinued)
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.0
6 Ratings
3% below category average
Video conferencing00 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Audio conferencing00 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Video screen sharing00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Instant messaging00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Best Alternatives
8x8 Express (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Small Businesses
Nextiva Business Phone Service
Nextiva Business Phone Service
Score 9.2 out of 10
CloudTalk
CloudTalk
Score 9.5 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
Nextiva Business Phone Service
Nextiva Business Phone Service
Score 9.2 out of 10
CloudTalk
CloudTalk
Score 9.5 out of 10
Enterprises
Cisco Unified Communications Manager (Call Manager)
Cisco Unified Communications Manager (Call Manager)
Score 8.6 out of 10
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
Score 9.0 out of 10
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User Ratings
8x8 Express (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
7.6
(8 ratings)
7.0
(10 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Usability
-
(0 ratings)
8.6
(2 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
9.1
(2 ratings)
8.3
(4 ratings)
Ease of integration
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
User Testimonials
8x8 Express (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
Discontinued Products
The 8x8 app is great and very user friendly and straightforward. Team Members can adjust their own setting as needed.
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is well suited for very quick conversations, where you know the person is an active Sametime user. It also serves as an easy way to reach out to someone you may not know when looking for an answer to a quick question, as they are likely to be a Sametime user. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to use Sametime for Audio or Video chat. The quality and reliability are horrendous.
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Pros
Discontinued Products
  • So easy to use!
  • Voicemail - can be accessed anywhere, includes transcription of the voicemail and an email message with the recording
  • Telephone services without all the fees of a landline service
  • Auto attendant, offering recordings of our messages
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime's web-based interfaces are "zero load", requiring no plug-ins to be installed to join a meeting, launch a meeting, or use chat in a browser. A plugin is required only if you want to share your screen.
  • Integration with IBM Notes is very tight. Sametime's chat status can change according to your Notes calendar. You can easily see if someone who just emailed you is available to chat. Your chat History is right inside Notes as well.
  • IBM's mobile apps are top notch. We automated the apps for our users thanks to IBM's work with third party MDMs. This made it very simple for us to deploy the Sametime mobile apps -- Chat and Meetings -- and get new capabilities such as Audio & Video mobilized quickly.
  • No down time, ever. The rock solid WebSphere back-end of Sametime means the environment is always up. Period.
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Cons
Discontinued Products
  • We are just starting to use the platform and using limited features at the moment and 8x8 is doing everything we need it to do.
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HCL Technologies
  • Not convenient for a large group meeting.
  • Very basic tool for internal communication only not available for third party communication
  • Very basic and limited mobile app features.
  • High speed connection is needed to connect to Sametime
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Likelihood to Renew
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is now an embedded experience for our users. They know it, they like it, they use it, and they expect it to be wherever they are. Because it is pretty easy to use and NEVER goes down, users know they can rely on it and won't be frustrated by it. Sametime is right up with there with Microsoft Office in terms of user adoption and appreciation.
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Usability
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Just about everything works the way you expect it would and it's relatively easy for users to figure out. Sametime was one of those things that we started with only a few people as a "test" and before the test period was done we discovered a few hundred people had figured out how to log in and most got it working all on their own. Many of our users want to use Sametime and do so regularly; we do not have to create policies enforcing its usage. Users find it practical to use Sametime to do things like chat, transfer files, share their screen, and so forth.
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Reliability and Availability
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HCL Technologies
Typically if Sametime is not available, it's because Windows Updates were done on the servers and they were not rebooted. However, that's not a problem with Sametime -- in fact, if you have Linux you could probably run Sametime for years without any hiccups whatsoever. We have no internal Linux expertise.
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Performance
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Generally very good. Occasionally AV or screen-sharing will stutter and every now and then I hear of it dropping out altogether, but in all cases it was easy to re-establish
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Support Rating
Discontinued Products
If you get less than 4 phones you fall into the online only customer service. There were a couple of times that I could have used more assistance but figuring it out online was a bit of a hassle.
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HCL Technologies
I have not needed to use the Sametime support team. Our local support team was able to configure it for me.
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Alternatives Considered
Discontinued Products
8x8 has a much lower cost that avaya for the same features. 8x8 is a bit more user friendly than some other larger well established brands. It still uses industry standards in terminology and call flows to for anyone with voip experience its a pain free switch to make over.
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HCL Technologies
We use Jabber globally in our company and Symphony (no relevant app in able list) in some of the teams as well. All these are instant messenger tools, but Sametime is the easiest one to be used and its chat history is easy to be searched. Sametime can be used to contact almost all internal staff as it’s included in default computer package. Symphony is used to chat with front end business while Jabber is used for call.
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Scalability
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is rock solid. It runs on WebSphere, DB2 and other related IBM technologies. This does mean the back-end is highly complex and very difficult to learn and get comfortable with, however.
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Return on Investment
Discontinued Products
  • Being able to listen to phone calls when there is a discrepancy
  • Keeping the honest honest by knowing we can listen to calls
  • Easy to communicate internally, been very helpful and time saving
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime keeps many of our team members in contact throughout the day which leads to increased productivity which makes everyone happy.
  • We use the team chat room feature every day. This allows a team to stay focused on the task without any extra messages that are not on topic.
  • The split between IBM Sametime, Slack and Google Hangouts has caused some issues when team members are not checking for messages on a certain app.
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