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Adobe LiveCycle ES4

We use PDF forms for our submissions to the USPTO as well as for obtaining signature documents. With LiveCycle, I can update forms, save them, load them into my docketing database, and have them pre-populated with data. This process ensures continuity, less chance for error, and the ability to save the paralegals time when it comes to preparing filings.
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IBM BPM

Have your process first on paperIts important to first document the process before venturing into BPMS. It will save a lot of pain and heartaches. A BPM tool is nomagic bullet, it merely automates your process. Its upto you to put visibility and tracking on top of it. Provide monitoring so thatyou get a chance to improve your process continously.BPM is not an applicationIf you are trying to build an application with BPM, chances are that your are alraedy failing. BPM must be a strategic initiative for anorganization. Yes, you build Dashboards, Reports and other software in BPMS, however you do it at a process level not at an applicationlevel.http://bpmstech.blogspot.com/2011/05/bpm-initiative.htmlKnow the difference between process data and business datahttp://bpmstech.blogspot.com/2011/05/lombardi-best-practices.htmlhttp://bpmstech.blogspot.com/2012/02/bpm-system-architecture.html
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Feature Rating Comparison

Reporting & Analytics

Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
2.0
Dashboards
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
2.0
Standard reports
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
2.0
Custom reports
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
2.1

Process Engine

Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
8.0
Process designer
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
9.0
Process simulation
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
7.0
Business rules engine
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
10.0
SOA support
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
9.0
Process player
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
8.0
Support for modeling languages
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
8.0
Form builder
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
8.0
Model execution
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
5.0

Collaboration

Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
4.0
Social collaboration tools
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
4.0

Content Management Capabilties

Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
8.0
Content management
Adobe LiveCycle ES4
IBM BPM
8.0

Pros

  • Ease of use for end users - the forms made from LiveCycle work flawlessly
  • Adding sections dedicated to pictures or other elements - there is some room for design here
  • Variety of choices for types of input to be added to each form and many options for configuring each of them
  • Works REALLY well for forms that just require text information to be filled in
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  • System does a great job normalizing business process and automating order processing tasks. Before TeamWorks, the process was much more manual and more expensive staff ($65k to $70K) were required to manage the process. Since implementing TeamWorks, we need much lower-skilled workers to manage order processing.
  • System ensures that we have consistent data across all systems.
  • Rules engine is really the “company playbook” – it is the heart and soul of how the company works. It handles thousands of orders per day
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Cons

  • Biggest issue is the user friendliness for the designer. It is hard to get elements to do what you want if you are adding any sort of design to your form. In my case I make flyers which require not only the form fills, but also other elements like pictures and background design elements.
  • The import from PSD or AI function does not work properly most of the time. If you create a document with lots of visual elements, your best bet is to convert as much of that as possible to a rasterized image and then popping that in as the background rather than trying to import elements. They come out very wonky, colors are lost in conversion, and the layout doesn't come over.
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  • Related to the importance of the system to the company, it represents a single point of failure. Company is totally dependent on the system to enable to company to function.
  • A complete order cycle might take two weeks. If a rule is modified during this cycle, the system may break (e.g. looking for a data object which is required to make a decision but which is no longer available). A new rule must be manually constructed based on the old one, and then used to replace the old rule. There is no real version control management for rules. This is something that is available on the latest version of the software.
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IBM BPM8.0
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Enhancements to IBM BPM are excellent. What they have done to Lombardi and Process Server is the best fusion I have ever seen.
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Usability

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IBM BPM8.0
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• The system is easy enough to use but, by definition, is a complex tool. However, they have done a good job generally balancing tool complexity / capability with usability. When comparing to MS Biz Talk, for example, Biz Talk has less functionality but is actually harder to use.
• Software is very flexible. For somebody with the right technical background, it’s quite easy to write some Java code to overcome any hurdles or make the product do what is needed
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Support

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IBM BPM9.0
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• Always get a response to a support ticket in less than 2 hours
• Urgent tickets are usually responded to within 15 minutes
• Support staff generally are familiar with our setup and it’s not necessary to explain things multiple times – frequently talk to the same person who is very familiar with our setup
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In-Person Training

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IBM BPM9.0
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• Attended on premise sysadmin training for 4 days, 8 hours per day. Although further follow-up training was available, I never felt the need to go back. Training was very hands-on with real modeling (rather than just following a manual). Very effective.
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Implementation

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IBM BPM9.0
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• Very satisfied – not too difficult at all.
• We had a consultant available as part of our contract, but we didn’t really need to use (except for some advice on ActiveDirectory and single sign-on)
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Alternatives Considered

Because LiveCycle comes with the Adobe Suite, I've never really looked outside of it because it was something I already had access to.
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Pega Pega is a comprehensive suite which offers a unique theme of BPM development in the market. A no-coding approach based on rules with inheritance makes Pega a very powerful product. However Pega, falls short on integration centric capabilities and very rigid to customize. On the other hand IBM comes with array of products which suits needs of varying degree. Advanced integration is solved by BPEL Process Server which has support for state based patterns and mediation. Dynamic rules and event management can be solved with WODM, Cloud to on-premise connectivity with Cast Iron, Enterprise gateway and security usecases with DataPower, Social BPM with IBM BPM , WODM, mobify with Worklight.Pega has a little bit of eveything here and there. It solves the dynamic rule management, brings out the flavor of Social BPM and mobility with Antenna ( I guess) and predictive analytics as well in one single suite. There are certain usecases which needs to have a little bit of everything, however this little bits and pieces of functionality when its blows, Pega would have problems to scale. With IBM its a bit nightmare to maintain a variety of technologies, however you can wish to go for one without the other and go for something only when you truly need it.Pega vs IBMIts difficult to pick a winner. In nutshell when you want a full scale BPM with rich integration capabilities go for IBM BPM. On the other hand if you hava mature integration capability already, Pega can yield quick results for you as well. Pega's strength is its methodology. IBM BPM's strength is integration. Actually you can't go wrong with both in terms of implementation. My strong recommendation is to invest time to process analysis and pick a good vendor to support consulting and implementation.
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Scalability

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IBM BPM10.0
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It scales from small team interactions to business processes serving thousands of employees, as well as straight-through-processing needs that go well beyond. Of course, scale is always in the eye of the beholder, but IBM BPM does a good job of giving you all of the hooks, APIs, and data that you need to take on whatever scaling approaches you need to meet the load
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Return on Investment

  • Having LiveCycle enables me to offer more products in my lineup, so that is always a good thing. Most clients like the idea of being able to purchase a template and then making changes themselves, so I've had quite a few sales here. However it's not really something that will make me rich overnight or anything. It's just a tool that enables me to have different products.
  • If they could figure out a way to improve the limitations in terms of design capability in the form creation process, I could probably leverage this software a lot better since I would use it more.
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  • It has added value to the upper management to give visibility into what is happening at any time in the enterprise.
  • Boosted employee morale because it gives them all the information to work the case/task in a single location.
  • Identifies bottlenecks and improves the turnover.
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Pricing Details

Adobe LiveCycle ES4

General
Free Trial
Free/Freemium Version
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
Entry-level set up fee?
No
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IBM BPM

General
Free Trial
Free/Freemium Version
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
Entry-level set up fee?
No
Additional Pricing Details