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53 Ratings

Amazon Aurora

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Amazon Aurora

When already using a relational database, either MySQL or PostgreSQL, the change to Amazon Aurora should be very straightforward. The main benefits you get are cost efficiency and ease with regards to the storage, as it scales with you, and managing clusters including failovers are made very straightforward for you.If you are looking for a database which can scale up and down quickly with demand, Aurora may not be the best fit. However, there is now an Amazon Aurora Serverless service which attempts to address this requirement. I do not have any experience with it, so cannot comment further - but it is possible it will fit your use-case.
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IBM BPM

Have your process first on paperIts important to first document the process before venturing into BPMS. It will save a lot of pain and heartaches. A BPM tool is nomagic bullet, it merely automates your process. Its upto you to put visibility and tracking on top of it. Provide monitoring so thatyou get a chance to improve your process continously.BPM is not an applicationIf you are trying to build an application with BPM, chances are that your are alraedy failing. BPM must be a strategic initiative for anorganization. Yes, you build Dashboards, Reports and other software in BPMS, however you do it at a process level not at an applicationlevel.http://bpmstech.blogspot.com/2011/05/bpm-initiative.htmlKnow the difference between process data and business datahttp://bpmstech.blogspot.com/2011/05/lombardi-best-practices.htmlhttp://bpmstech.blogspot.com/2012/02/bpm-system-architecture.html
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Feature Rating Comparison

Reporting & Analytics

Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
2.1
Dashboards
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
2.1
Standard reports
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
2.1
Custom reports
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
2.1

Process Engine

Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
8.0
Process designer
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
9.0
Process simulation
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
7.0
Business rules engine
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
9.9
SOA support
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
9.0
Process player
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
8.0
Support for modeling languages
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
8.0
Form builder
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
8.0
Model execution
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
5.0

Collaboration

Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
4.0
Social collaboration tools
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
4.0

Content Management Capabilties

Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
8.0
Content management
Amazon Aurora
IBM BPM
8.0

Pros

  • Amazon Aurora has high availability, since the customer started to use it, the database never had to be left out of service.
  • Amazon Aurora provides frequent and automated upgrades, which makes our database system always up to date on the latest features and security practices
  • Since Amazon Aurora uses MySQL as its core database, it is very easy to find specialized people to work. Amazon’s relational database management system also makes it very easy to expand and create new databases
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  • IBM BPM's biggest strength is process modeling. With blueworks its a cake walk to white board processes to stakeholders and chat around.
  • IBM BPM Coaches went through a significant improvement with a easy to customize views, rich Dashboards and REST API for building complex portals. This is a game changer when compared with Pega which is little rigid when it comes to displaying BPM tasks on external portals.
  • With IBM BPM Advanced there is a way to enforce a clean architecture. Long running system to system level processes can get into BPEL Process Server, short running system to system transactions on WESB and human interactions on the Lombardi Process Server. Basically IBM BPM supports SOA to the core. So bottom line is IBM BPM supports human centric, integration centric BPM methodologies. With CMIS support, document centric capabilities are well supported too. This is a another distinguishing feature from Pega which isn't too integration centric.
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Cons

  • The cost of Amazon Aurora when compared to a simple MySQL instance is considerably higher, so we really need to look at and run some performance tests to compare if the performance improvements are worth the extra cost.
  • Although backup restores are a rare feature to use, when we need them it is always painful to restore our data. We are always searching for a database service to provide new and innovating features in terms of data recovery. For instance, being able to search on backup information to see if the needed data is there. It is a very common need to compare the hot data with the backup data, for example to fix some database data that a malfunction application wrongly updated.
  • Since aurora is an Amazon relational database service there is no way to run a dev database on a local storage for tests and development.
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  • IBM BPM should bring in the Agile methodology and enforce it as a way to build software. If its comes from IBM there is very little chance that vendors can mess around the SDLC, jeopardizing project implementations.
  • IBM BPM should enhance the traceability of implementation with requirements. Blueworks to Process Modeling works well for the first time implementation, however when a process needs enhancement or improvements, the modeling represetation gets blurred due to implementation details. This can be currently worked around with stricter goverance around process modeling, but would like IBM to come up with a solution
  • Merging of snapshots - something needs to be done on this aspect
  • A tool to peek into process data BLOB. Ability to change the process data at runtime - Nice to have.
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Likelihood to Renew

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IBM BPM8.0
Based on 4 answers
This particular decision will be made by other people. Overall IBM BPM is the best BPM engine that I have worked with. It is implemented at our company and IT and business are already somewhat familiar with it. Therefore if asked I will recommend renewal as long as the price is reasonable.
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Usability

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IBM BPM8.0
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• The system is easy enough to use but, by definition, is a complex tool. However, they have done a good job generally balancing tool complexity / capability with usability. When comparing to MS Biz Talk, for example, Biz Talk has less functionality but is actually harder to use.
• Software is very flexible. For somebody with the right technical background, it’s quite easy to write some Java code to overcome any hurdles or make the product do what is needed
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Support

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IBM BPM9.0
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• Always get a response to a support ticket in less than 2 hours
• Urgent tickets are usually responded to within 15 minutes
• Support staff generally are familiar with our setup and it’s not necessary to explain things multiple times – frequently talk to the same person who is very familiar with our setup
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In-Person Training

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IBM BPM9.0
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• Attended on premise sysadmin training for 4 days, 8 hours per day. Although further follow-up training was available, I never felt the need to go back. Training was very hands-on with real modeling (rather than just following a manual). Very effective.
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Implementation

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IBM BPM9.0
Based on 1 answer
• Very satisfied – not too difficult at all.
• We had a consultant available as part of our contract, but we didn’t really need to use (except for some advice on ActiveDirectory and single sign-on)
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Alternatives Considered

Unlike proprietary solutions like Microsoft SQL Server, Amazon Aurora does not need proprietary licensing, so we can use this budget to get cloud solutions with high availability and performance, at a similar rate. When compared to MySQL or Postgres SQL, it allows us to have a database system always updated with the most current features and security best practices without having to worry about it. In normal database systems like MySQL to keep the database system up to date we need to have someone always looking for new upgrades.As it relies on MySQL there is no extra formation for a team that is already used to a MySQL solution.
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Pega Pega is a comprehensive suite which offers a unique theme of BPM development in the market. A no-coding approach based on rules with inheritance makes Pega a very powerful product. However Pega, falls short on integration centric capabilities and very rigid to customize. On the other hand IBM comes with array of products which suits needs of varying degree. Advanced integration is solved by BPEL Process Server which has support for state based patterns and mediation. Dynamic rules and event management can be solved with WODM, Cloud to on-premise connectivity with Cast Iron, Enterprise gateway and security usecases with DataPower, Social BPM with IBM BPM , WODM, mobify with Worklight.Pega has a little bit of eveything here and there. It solves the dynamic rule management, brings out the flavor of Social BPM and mobility with Antenna ( I guess) and predictive analytics as well in one single suite. There are certain usecases which needs to have a little bit of everything, however this little bits and pieces of functionality when its blows, Pega would have problems to scale. With IBM its a bit nightmare to maintain a variety of technologies, however you can wish to go for one without the other and go for something only when you truly need it.Pega vs IBMIts difficult to pick a winner. In nutshell when you want a full scale BPM with rich integration capabilities go for IBM BPM. On the other hand if you hava mature integration capability already, Pega can yield quick results for you as well. Pega's strength is its methodology. IBM BPM's strength is integration. Actually you can't go wrong with both in terms of implementation. My strong recommendation is to invest time to process analysis and pick a good vendor to support consulting and implementation.
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Scalability

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IBM BPM10.0
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It scales from small team interactions to business processes serving thousands of employees, as well as straight-through-processing needs that go well beyond. Of course, scale is always in the eye of the beholder, but IBM BPM does a good job of giving you all of the hooks, APIs, and data that you need to take on whatever scaling approaches you need to meet the load
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Return on Investment

  • The customers where we implemented Amazon Aurora database don't need to have an employee specialized in features and security upgrades.
  • The database replication and schedule for backup tasks are much easier, so less prone to errors.
  • We have never had a database downtime on our applications, which is essential for our customer business.
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  • Data consistency. Data in SFDC is not kept updated automatically without requiring salespeople or others to manually keep the system up to date.
  • Automation means that order processing is much easier for staff – less skilled people needed.
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Pricing Details

Amazon Aurora

General
Free Trial
Free/Freemium Version
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
Entry-level set up fee?
No
Additional Pricing Details

IBM BPM

General
Free Trial
Free/Freemium Version
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
Entry-level set up fee?
No
Additional Pricing Details