Apache Camel vs SAP BPM

Likelihood to Recommend

Message brokering across different systems, with transactionality and the ability to have fine tuned control over what happens using Java (or other languages), instead of a heavy, proprietary languages.One situation that it doesn't fit very well (as far as I have experienced) is when your workflow requires significant data mapping. While possible when using Java tooling, some other visual data mapping tools in other integration frameworks are easier to work with.

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Engineer in Engineering

Financial Services Company, 1001-5000 employees

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It is well suited when we need to integrate business processes with SAP ERP and SAP CRM - the solution can be integrated with business rules/procedures defined in SAP ERP/CRM and NetWeaver can be used to monitor the rules and flag off exceptions. When there are multiple workflows running, it tends to slow down running of these processes. Also, it entirely depends on SAP portal for it to run efficiently.

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Shiv Shivakumar

Acquisitions Leader

AbbottComputer Software, 1001-5000 employees

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Feature Rating Comparison

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Dashboards

Standard reports

Custom reports

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Process designer

Process simulation

Business rules engine

SOA support

Process player

Support for modeling languages

Form builder

Model execution

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Social collaboration tools

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Content management

Pros

Camel has an easy learning curve. It is fairly well documented and there are about 5-6 books on Camel.
There is a large user group and blogs devoted to all things Camel and the developers of Camel provide quick answers and have also been very quick to patch Camel, when bugs are reported.
Camel integrates well with well known frameworks like Spring, and other middleware products like Apache Karaf and Servicemix.
There are over 150 components for the Camel framework that help integrate with diverse software platforms.
Camel is also good for creating microservices.

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Surjit Sen

Senior Software Consultant at Randstad

Cox CommunicationsBroadcast Media, 10,001+ employees

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Virtual paper trail. Iterations of process and current documentation are all stored as "artifacts", leaving a great trail.
Configuration of users. BPM somewhat magically determines which users will be impacted and automates rules.
A pro (that is also a con) is the design interface. If you know what you are doing, it is incredibly powerful and malleable.

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Verified User

Analyst in Sales

Electrical/Electronic Manufacturing Company, 10,001+ employees

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Cons

I find the "seda" endpoint to be less obvious that it is doing multi-threading than Spring Integration's executor mechanism.
Integration with Spring Beans is pretty good, but I believe SI's is a bit better (for obvious reasons, both being Spring products).
SI's use support is probably a bit better/faster and I believe the user base is larger so that there are most questions/answers for SI on StackOverflow

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Engineer in Engineering

Defense & Space Company, 11-50 employees

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Live readings would be nice.
Easier to maneuver
Work with all systems with the press of one keystroke

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Stephanie Chapman

Team Leader

American Standard BrandsConsumer Services, 1001-5000 employees

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Likelihood to Renew

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SAP BPM 7.0

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As a big fan of SAP in general, the BPM solution fits right in with all the other things SAP does well, and does it with incredible efficiency

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Verified User

Analyst in Sales

Electrical/Electronic Manufacturing Company, 10,001+ employees

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Support Rating

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No answers yet

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SAP BPM 5.0

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We have our own tech support for systems, I would say they probably could use more training on it, I don't really think it's anything regarding the SAP system, but more the knowledge they have on the system itself. It seems to take longer for them to fix any issues we may come across.

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Stephanie Chapman

Team Leader

American Standard BrandsConsumer Services, 1001-5000 employees

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Alternatives Considered

We chose Apache Camel because it was lightweight, easy to get started with and because it had a groovy DSL since we were a grails shop when we started using it.

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Akmal Muqeeth

Lead Software Engineer

BrighterInternet, 51-200 employees

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I found the initial setup of NetWeaver is much simpler than other products especially in an SAP environment where we have SAP ERP/HRM/CRM as it can be well integrated with other SAP products. The only drawback is the need/dependency on SAP Portal. It is better suited in an environment where SAP ERP is running.

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Shiv Shivakumar

Acquisitions Leader

AbbottComputer Software, 1001-5000 employees

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Return on Investment

Apache Camel is open source and Java based. So if your engineering team is strong in Java this could be a good framework to adopt.
Apache camel is open source.
Camel could be run on OSGi containers like Karaf or Fuse.

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Verified User

Team Lead in Engineering

Financial Services Company, 10,001+ employees

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Helped us harness integrated benefit from having SAP ERP/CRM by leveraging NetWeaver to define business processes/rules and monitor exceptions
Did not have any negative experience except for the fact that at times when multiple rules run, it can be somewhat slow

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Shiv Shivakumar

Acquisitions Leader

AbbottComputer Software, 1001-5000 employees

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Pricing Details

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Entry-level set up fee?

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General

Free Trial

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Free/Freemium Version

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Premium Consulting/Integration Services

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Entry-level set up fee?

No

Rating Summary

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Likelihood to Recommend

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Feature Rating Comparison

Dashboards

Standard reports

Custom reports

Process designer

Process simulation

Business rules engine

SOA support

Process player

Support for modeling languages

Form builder

Model execution

Social collaboration tools

Content management

Pros

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Cons

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Likelihood to Renew

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Support Rating

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Alternatives Considered

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Return on Investment

Apache Camel

SAP BPM

Pricing Details

General

Free Trial

Free/Freemium Version

Premium Consulting/Integration Services

Entry-level set up fee?

General

Free Trial

Free/Freemium Version

Premium Consulting/Integration Services

Entry-level set up fee?

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