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Likelihood to Recommend

IBM BPM

Have your process first on paperIts important to first document the process before venturing into BPMS. It will save a lot of pain and heartaches. A BPM tool is nomagic bullet, it merely automates your process. Its upto you to put visibility and tracking on top of it. Provide monitoring so thatyou get a chance to improve your process continously.BPM is not an applicationIf you are trying to build an application with BPM, chances are that your are alraedy failing. BPM must be a strategic initiative for anorganization. Yes, you build Dashboards, Reports and other software in BPMS, however you do it at a process level not at an applicationlevel.http://bpmstech.blogspot.com/2011/05/bpm-initiative.htmlKnow the difference between process data and business datahttp://bpmstech.blogspot.com/2011/05/lombardi-best-practices.htmlhttp://bpmstech.blogspot.com/2012/02/bpm-system-architecture.html
Prasanna Selvaraj | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

It is well suited when we need to integrate business processes with SAP ERP and SAP CRM - the solution can be integrated with business rules/procedures defined in SAP ERP/CRM and NetWeaver can be used to monitor the rules and flag off exceptions. When there are multiple workflows running, it tends to slow down running of these processes. Also, it entirely depends on SAP portal for it to run efficiently.
Shiv Shivakumar | TrustRadius Reviewer

Feature Rating Comparison

Reporting & Analytics

IBM BPM
8.6
SAP BPM
10.0
Dashboards
IBM BPM
8.9
SAP BPM
10.0
Standard reports
IBM BPM
7.9
SAP BPM
10.0
Custom reports
IBM BPM
8.9
SAP BPM
10.0

Process Engine

IBM BPM
7.5
SAP BPM
10.0
Process designer
IBM BPM
8.0
SAP BPM
10.0
Process simulation
IBM BPM
8.0
SAP BPM
10.0
Business rules engine
IBM BPM
7.0
SAP BPM
10.0
SOA support
IBM BPM
5.0
SAP BPM
10.0
Process player
IBM BPM
7.0
SAP BPM
10.0
Support for modeling languages
IBM BPM
8.0
SAP BPM
10.0
Form builder
IBM BPM
8.0
SAP BPM
10.0
Model execution
IBM BPM
9.0
SAP BPM
10.0

Collaboration

IBM BPM
5.0
SAP BPM
10.0
Social collaboration tools
IBM BPM
5.0
SAP BPM
10.0

Content Management Capabilties

IBM BPM
8.0
SAP BPM
10.0
Content management
IBM BPM
8.0
SAP BPM
10.0

Pros

IBM BPM

  • System does a great job normalizing business process and automating order processing tasks. Before TeamWorks, the process was much more manual and more expensive staff ($65k to $70K) were required to manage the process. Since implementing TeamWorks, we need much lower-skilled workers to manage order processing.
  • System ensures that we have consistent data across all systems.
  • Rules engine is really the “company playbook” – it is the heart and soul of how the company works. It handles thousands of orders per day
Anonymous | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

  • Virtual paper trail. Iterations of process and current documentation are all stored as "artifacts", leaving a great trail.
  • Configuration of users. BPM somewhat magically determines which users will be impacted and automates rules.
  • A pro (that is also a con) is the design interface. If you know what you are doing, it is incredibly powerful and malleable.
Anonymous | TrustRadius Reviewer

Cons

IBM BPM

  • The system gets crashed when many instances go into the queue stage. The system even crashes and sometimes restarts automatically when the load on the server increases. We had to develop a separate software for this and maintain the same.
  • We cannot manipulate the data during run time. It is difficult to develop user-interfaces with complex functionality.
  • In order to consume external services that follow HTTP protocol, we need to use IDE for that, and consuming services from IDE takes a lot of time to give a response.
Anonymous | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

  • Live readings would be nice.
  • Easier to maneuver
  • Work with all systems with the press of one keystroke
Stephanie Chapman | TrustRadius Reviewer

Likelihood to Renew

IBM BPM

IBM BPM 8.0
Based on 4 answers
This particular decision will be made by other people. Overall IBM BPM is the best BPM engine that I have worked with. It is implemented at our company and IT and business are already somewhat familiar with it. Therefore if asked I will recommend renewal as long as the price is reasonable.
Anonymous | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

SAP BPM 7.0
Based on 1 answer
As a big fan of SAP in general, the BPM solution fits right in with all the other things SAP does well, and does it with incredible efficiency
Anonymous | TrustRadius Reviewer

Usability

IBM BPM

IBM BPM 8.0
Based on 2 answers
• The system is easy enough to use but, by definition, is a complex tool. However, they have done a good job generally balancing tool complexity / capability with usability. When comparing to MS Biz Talk, for example, Biz Talk has less functionality but is actually harder to use.
• Software is very flexible. For somebody with the right technical background, it’s quite easy to write some Java code to overcome any hurdles or make the product do what is needed
Anonymous | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

No score
No answers yet
No answers on this topic

Support Rating

IBM BPM

IBM BPM 8.0
Based on 2 answers
Issues can be raised through tickets and it works based on the priority of the issue. The Support Team response is also good and the solution is provided in a short span of time. In a case where the issue is serious, they try to find out the root cause and provide an alternative for it.
Anonymous | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

SAP BPM 5.0
Based on 2 answers
We have our own tech support for systems, I would say they probably could use more training on it, I don't really think it's anything regarding the SAP system, but more the knowledge they have on the system itself. It seems to take longer for them to fix any issues we may come across.
Stephanie Chapman | TrustRadius Reviewer

In-Person Training

IBM BPM

IBM BPM 9.0
Based on 1 answer
• Attended on premise sysadmin training for 4 days, 8 hours per day. Although further follow-up training was available, I never felt the need to go back. Training was very hands-on with real modeling (rather than just following a manual). Very effective.
Anonymous | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

No score
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Implementation Rating

IBM BPM

IBM BPM 9.0
Based on 1 answer
• Very satisfied – not too difficult at all.
• We had a consultant available as part of our contract, but we didn’t really need to use (except for some advice on ActiveDirectory and single sign-on)
Anonymous | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

No score
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Alternatives Considered

IBM BPM

Pega Pega is a comprehensive suite which offers a unique theme of BPM development in the market. A no-coding approach based on rules with inheritance makes Pega a very powerful product. However Pega, falls short on integration centric capabilities and very rigid to customize. On the other hand IBM comes with array of products which suits needs of varying degree. Advanced integration is solved by BPEL Process Server which has support for state based patterns and mediation. Dynamic rules and event management can be solved with WODM, Cloud to on-premise connectivity with Cast Iron, Enterprise gateway and security usecases with DataPower, Social BPM with IBM BPM , WODM, mobify with Worklight.Pega has a little bit of eveything here and there. It solves the dynamic rule management, brings out the flavor of Social BPM and mobility with Antenna ( I guess) and predictive analytics as well in one single suite. There are certain usecases which needs to have a little bit of everything, however this little bits and pieces of functionality when its blows, Pega would have problems to scale. With IBM its a bit nightmare to maintain a variety of technologies, however you can wish to go for one without the other and go for something only when you truly need it.Pega vs IBMIts difficult to pick a winner. In nutshell when you want a full scale BPM with rich integration capabilities go for IBM BPM. On the other hand if you hava mature integration capability already, Pega can yield quick results for you as well. Pega's strength is its methodology. IBM BPM's strength is integration. Actually you can't go wrong with both in terms of implementation. My strong recommendation is to invest time to process analysis and pick a good vendor to support consulting and implementation.
Prasanna Selvaraj | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

I found the initial setup of NetWeaver is much simpler than other products especially in an SAP environment where we have SAP ERP/HRM/CRM as it can be well integrated with other SAP products. The only drawback is the need/dependency on SAP Portal. It is better suited in an environment where SAP ERP is running.
Shiv Shivakumar | TrustRadius Reviewer

Scalability

IBM BPM

IBM BPM 10.0
Based on 1 answer
It scales from small team interactions to business processes serving thousands of employees, as well as straight-through-processing needs that go well beyond. Of course, scale is always in the eye of the beholder, but IBM BPM does a good job of giving you all of the hooks, APIs, and data that you need to take on whatever scaling approaches you need to meet the load
Scott Francis | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

No score
No answers yet
No answers on this topic

Return on Investment

IBM BPM

  • It has added value to the upper management to give visibility into what is happening at any time in the enterprise.
  • Boosted employee morale because it gives them all the information to work the case/task in a single location.
  • Identifies bottlenecks and improves the turnover.
Keshava Murthy B S | TrustRadius Reviewer

SAP BPM

  • Helped us harness integrated benefit from having SAP ERP/CRM by leveraging NetWeaver to define business processes/rules and monitor exceptions
  • Did not have any negative experience except for the fact that at times when multiple rules run, it can be somewhat slow
Shiv Shivakumar | TrustRadius Reviewer

Pricing Details

IBM BPM

General

Free Trial
Free/Freemium Version
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
Entry-level set up fee?
No

SAP BPM

General

Free Trial
Free/Freemium Version
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
Entry-level set up fee?
No

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