Infor Adage (Discontinued) vs. SAP Business ByDesign

It is a factory process ERP suitable for flow manufacturing, perhaps the best in its class for functionality and value. Great for medium sized manufacturers.. especially food manufacturers.

Incentivized

Do you plan on going public at some point? If so, this may not be the best solution for you

Incentivized

• Stability, it reminds of a old COBOL system found in plants. It just runs and never stops.
• Established, Infor Adage made an A grade platform.
• Support, even though Infor Adage is not supporting it anymore, other companies are still developing add ons for it.

Incentivized

• I like the ease of use and the implementation methodology.
• With SAP Business ByDesign you can integrate other systems with Web Services, and data technology to get information easy and fast.
• SAP Business ByDesign includes an Analytics Module to create new reports in regards to your needs.

• Infor has moved onto their new manufacturing package, so they have slowed in their development of Adage, and the user interface is a bit dated, but functional. It could use a technical refresh on the operator screens and access. It is not web based.
• Integration with EDI is weak. There is poor support for ASNs (Advanced Ship Noticies) and freight management has to be brought in from the outside.
• Security takes a while to update and administer.

Incentivized

• Time off request could be better. Right now, there is no option for sick time
• It crashes often
• Customization could be better

Incentivized

SAP BYD work centers are consistent and easy to navigate once you understand one work center. The document flow tab that is in each window allows one to see all related transactions. Document flow is important because one is able to see the flow of transactions and can therefore reverse transactions by following the document flow in reverse. It is possible to group items in each overview screen to see what items are open. The system is working as hoped.

Incentivized

Because SAP Business ByDesign allows us to improve our work, reduce the operational steps, implement audit controls, allows us found standard reports or it allows us to create new ones if you need more than the exists are enough for your work or your needs. Overall, SAP Business ByDesign allows us to standardize our operations, enhance our work, improve our skills, work over a web environment or mobile interface.

The Business ByDesign support is stablished since you contract the service with SAP. SAP resolves according to the service level agreement. Currently, we continue with the service and we are using the support channels available. We are receiving the support. The SAP support gets an incident and after that, they contact us to resolve the incident, if necessary, they set the meeting to understand it or we explain the incident

I recommend implementing all workshops during the ERP selection that you need to know very well about the ERP software. It allows us to gather information to accurate the plan of the project implementation. Additionally, we must reach the high-level commitment to achieve the main goals, to define the RACI matrix and communicate to all project stakeholders.

I was not here for when Adage was introduced but I can say having had experience with Oracle I can say that it can hold its own. When it gets down to, Adage is easier and cheaper to maintain then other ERP's. It can do the same tasks other ERP's can do and does them well.

Incentivized

ByDesign stacks up well against the competition. Companies that do multiple things are usually the best fit (manufacturing, distribution, and service). The more 'modules' used, the fewer competitors will be able to meet the company's needs. It is not inexpensive, but if the needs of the company have the complexity from either a global perspective and need localizations and foreign currency, or a volume perspective and need resources greater than what can be easily housed on-premise, ByDesign should be a top consideration.

Incentivized

• It's scaled well with our company, and we haven't seen the need to switch packages, it works well for us.
• Our IT staff doesn't spend time fighting application or data failures, it's a clean running package (we have an IT staff of 3).
• We can get our work done, and it handles business loads well.

Incentivized

• Positive - Access to the real-time reporting allowing for faster decision making especially when fixed price projects are heading into an over budget position.
• Positive - Complex KPI can now be tracked and as a consequence intensive plans can be made to capitalise on this level of reporting. Staff also have clear visibility over their own performance.
• Negative - We are a bit on the small side at 30 employees for a ByD solution so it was relatively expensive for us. It would be a much better value preposition above 50 employees.