Brassring vs. Lumesse (Discontinued)

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Brassring
Score 7.0 out of 10
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Brassring, formerly from IBM and part of the Kenexa Talent Acquisition Suite, and now sold by Infinite Computer Solutions, is an enterprise grade ATS and onboarding solution. It allows companies to find the right talent, track and manage candidates, and use candidate data to spot trends within the applicant pool.N/A
Lumesse (Discontinued)
Score 4.0 out of 10
N/A
Lumesse was a talent management suite. Its core functionality is in recruiting and applicant tracking. Lumesse also offers other recruiting features, as well as onboarding and analytics capabilities. It was acquired by Saba and is no longer available.N/A
Pricing
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Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
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Free Trial
YesNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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Community Pulse
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Considered Both Products
Brassring

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Lumesse (Discontinued)
Chose Lumesse (Discontinued)
The normal competitors like Taleo, Kenexa, etc. And since we were using SAP HR, we did actually used SAP before going to Lumesse.
Top Pros
Top Cons
Features
BrassringLumesse (Discontinued)
Recruiting / ATS
Comparison of Recruiting / ATS features of Product A and Product B
Brassring
7.5
11 Ratings
6% below category average
Lumesse (Discontinued)
7.3
1 Ratings
0% below category average
Job Requisition Management7.711 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Company Website Posting7.410 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Publish to Social Media7.710 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Job Search Site Posting7.711 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Customized Application Form7.111 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Resume Management7.410 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Duplicate Candidate Prevention7.110 Ratings00 Ratings
Candidate Search8.310 Ratings5.01 Ratings
Applicant Tracking8.310 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Collaboration7.18 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Task Creation and Delegation7.46 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Email Templates7.710 Ratings7.01 Ratings
User Permissions7.49 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Notifications and Alerts7.710 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Reporting7.110 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Onboarding
Comparison of Onboarding features of Product A and Product B
Brassring
-
Ratings
Lumesse (Discontinued)
7.0
2 Ratings
5% below category average
New hire portal00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Manager tracking tools00 Ratings7.02 Ratings
Compliance tracking and reporting00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Performance and Goals
Comparison of Performance and Goals features of Product A and Product B
Brassring
-
Ratings
Lumesse (Discontinued)
7.0
1 Ratings
4% below category average
Corporate goal setting00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Subordinate goal setting00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Individual goal setting00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Line-of sight-visibility00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Performance tracking00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Performance Management
Comparison of Performance Management features of Product A and Product B
Brassring
-
Ratings
Lumesse (Discontinued)
7.3
1 Ratings
6% above category average
Review status tracking00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Workflow restrictions00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Reporting00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Succession Planning
Comparison of Succession Planning features of Product A and Product B
Brassring
-
Ratings
Lumesse (Discontinued)
6.3
1 Ratings
13% below category average
Create succession plans/pools00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Candidate ranking00 Ratings7.01 Ratings
Candidate search00 Ratings5.01 Ratings
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User Ratings
BrassringLumesse (Discontinued)
Likelihood to Recommend
8.3
(30 ratings)
6.7
(7 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
6.0
(12 ratings)
3.3
(5 ratings)
Usability
7.0
(3 ratings)
7.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
5.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
1.8
(2 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
2.6
(2 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
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Likelihood to Recommend
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
Kenexa is is well suited for any organization that has more than 3000 employees globally. I would not recommend this to startups or a growing organization with less than 3000 employees. But once you cross this number, Kenexa becomes useful and is a brilliant tool for global operations - recruiting. I would recommend this tool to any organization that has offices in many countries/geographies as well.
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Lumesse is well suited for global companies, that are not too large and may get enough attention/support from other larger vendors.
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Pros
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
  • Kenexa allows Boolean key word search within a particular requisition so it makes sifting through a high number of applicants manageable and effective
  • Kenexa can be tailored to meet individual business needs. During the time we’ve had Kenexa here I’ve used it in support of a few different business segments and for each the way the system was used to “position” candidate statuses have varied based on the individual need of the business. One example is when interviewing a high volume of applicants internationally, we were able to send qualified applicants through to the “event manager” and it would enable the candidate to select his/her interview date/time based on previously submitted options inputted by our Kenexa users.
  • Kenexa allows one to customize and score questions for each open requisition that applicants complete as they apply. The system then sorts applicants according to the score of candidate answers allowing for easy sorting of top qualified candidates.
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  • It has open text boxes to add notes, on the individual candidate home page. Which is helpful when making a quick look at an individual, these notes are very obvious.
  • It has a search function; however it lacks a wild card (*); so if a req or candidate are spelled differently or referred to differently, there is no way to find them
  • Its a simple, no frills lay out
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Cons
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
  • BrassRing's application system for candidates is prone to freezing and crashing in the middle of the application causing potential candidates to lose all progress. I filled out the application myself and witnessed these issues first hand, on top of several complaints I received via phone and email from candidates attempting to apply via the BrassRing service. Also, the Parsing system within the application is not capable of pulling any meaningful information out of text documents.
  • Each user must be added to each job in order for that job, and the candidates in it, to show up in relevant searches. This becomes a problem when a new team member joins the account and needs access to all of the previous openings just so that they can find candidates already in the system. The account I was working on involved literally hundreds of new openings a month, meaning that any movement of personnel on or off the account would mean having to update potentially thousands of old positions just to allow them to be able to mine the ATS for candidates. I don't see any particular reason why someone with access to the system should have to be given access to each individual job. If a particular position needs to be kept confidential for whatever reason then that individual position should be able to be set to only show to authorized recruiters. The rest of the positions should automatically be searchable by anyone with appropriate access to the ATS to allow for basic level candidate mining and movement.
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  • I have found the system to be very inconsistent and "buggy", for lack of a better term. Today I searched for an internal requisition number and the system could not find the data. I found it by scrolling through manually, and verified that I had entered the information precisely as it appeared. There seems to be no explanation as to why it could not locate this particular entry, but I have been able to use the function without a problem in other instances.
  • The navigation is not intuitive or user-friendly. It takes an exorbitant amount of clicks to accomplish a task. Each action is confusing and time-consuming.
  • The system requires a large amount of redundant information in order to enter a job and does not auto-populate. If I indicate a position is located in Chicago, it would logically follow that the state is "Illinois", the country is "United States", and the currency is "USD". I have to manually input these details in both the requisition as well as the separate job advertisement page.
  • Changes to the job requisition are not reflected in the job advertisement, as they are separate entities. If you need to make a change, you have to update the details twice.
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Likelihood to Renew
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
I am confident that the Kenexa product will continue to evolve to meet the needs of our business in an ever changing work environment. The affiliation with IBM also plays a factor as we have a long standing successful relationship with IBM products. We will be looking to integrate other Kenexa products in the near future to streamline our HR processes.
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This seems to work for us because of all the things we can do with the system (i.e. create all kinds of reports).
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Usability
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
I feel like I am pretty decent with computers and systems. It was fairly easy to use it after about a week or two . But I have seen people struggle with it as well as some people not use it at all. It can be slow at times and not work at times. But Its a fine system.
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Performance
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
Just slow for what we are doing here
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Support Rating
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
It is a very basic system. It may be OK for entry level positions only. The practice of removing CVs while the recruitment process is ON is disturbing and there is no one to explain or to inform why it is being done. Even a routine mail is not sent to the client/consultant. I am surprised how this system is continuing without too many complaints.
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Implementation Rating
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
We purchased an out of the box solution and that worked well for us.
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Alternatives Considered
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
SF ATS was not available at the time and Taleo was thought to be too expensive. In retrospect, given the amount of customization and leveraging of other vendor technology for things like analytics I suspect any cost advantage we realized evaporated
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Lumesse is an average to abover average ATS in my opinion. We work with Lumesse because they came to us with our new client. I don't have an overall issue with Lumesse like I do with some other ATS's.
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Return on Investment
Infinite Computer Solutions, Inc
  • Kenexa has assisted us in identifying top talent within our target market of applicants.
  • Kenexa may exclude potentially good associates that don't test well.
  • Kenexa clearly defines specific categories and general notes for training, development, & coaching of associates on areas of opportunity.
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  • Decreased employee efficiency -- There are so many steps to create an entry that our recruiters use the system as little as possible. We had hoped to use Lumesse for centralizing information and reporting, but have not been able to do so. Instead, each recruiter keeps a separate Excel sheet, defeating the purpose of having an ATS in the first place. We only use Lumesse to post to our website now. We are very disappointed.
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