Pentaho vs. SAP Lumira Discovery

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Pentaho
Score 7.8 out of 10
N/A
Pentaho is a suite of open source business intelligence and analytics products, now offered and supported by Hitachi Data Systems since the June 2015 acquisition.N/A
SAP Lumira Discovery
Score 7.8 out of 10
N/A
SAP Lumira Discovery is SAP’s data visualization and discovery application. It facilitates data discovery, visualization, and analysis by assisting users with creation of dashboards, infographics, presentations, data facets, tag clouds, and more.
$185
per user
Pricing
PentahoSAP Lumira Discovery
Editions & Modules
No answers on this topic
SAP Lumira, standard edition
$185
per user
Offerings
Pricing Offerings
PentahoSAP Lumira Discovery
Free Trial
NoYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoYes
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
PentahoSAP Lumira Discovery
Considered Both Products
Pentaho

No answer on this topic

SAP Lumira Discovery
Chose SAP Lumira Discovery
When compared to other tools our approach is towards the self-servicing rather development that grabbed out attention towards SAP Lumira. also has more scope of maturity as a Self-Service BI.
Top Pros
Top Cons
Features
PentahoSAP Lumira Discovery
BI Standard Reporting
Comparison of BI Standard Reporting features of Product A and Product B
Pentaho
9.0
20 Ratings
11% above category average
SAP Lumira Discovery
7.3
96 Ratings
10% below category average
Pixel Perfect reports8.818 Ratings00 Ratings
Customizable dashboards9.618 Ratings7.396 Ratings
Report Formatting Templates8.518 Ratings00 Ratings
Ad-hoc Reporting
Comparison of Ad-hoc Reporting features of Product A and Product B
Pentaho
8.8
19 Ratings
10% above category average
SAP Lumira Discovery
7.5
102 Ratings
6% below category average
Drill-down analysis7.818 Ratings7.599 Ratings
Formatting capabilities8.319 Ratings7.3102 Ratings
Integration with R or other statistical packages9.412 Ratings00 Ratings
Report sharing and collaboration9.517 Ratings7.697 Ratings
Report Output and Scheduling
Comparison of Report Output and Scheduling features of Product A and Product B
Pentaho
9.4
20 Ratings
13% above category average
SAP Lumira Discovery
7.1
94 Ratings
15% below category average
Publish to Web9.418 Ratings7.681 Ratings
Publish to PDF9.419 Ratings7.593 Ratings
Report Versioning9.513 Ratings00 Ratings
Report Delivery Scheduling9.717 Ratings6.355 Ratings
Delivery to Remote Servers9.010 Ratings00 Ratings
Data Discovery and Visualization
Comparison of Data Discovery and Visualization features of Product A and Product B
Pentaho
8.2
17 Ratings
2% above category average
SAP Lumira Discovery
5.6
103 Ratings
36% below category average
Pre-built visualization formats (heatmaps, scatter plots etc.)8.116 Ratings7.7101 Ratings
Location Analytics / Geographic Visualization8.216 Ratings7.194 Ratings
Predictive Analytics8.414 Ratings2.072 Ratings
Access Control and Security
Comparison of Access Control and Security features of Product A and Product B
Pentaho
9.0
20 Ratings
6% above category average
SAP Lumira Discovery
-
Ratings
Multi-User Support (named login)9.120 Ratings00 Ratings
Role-Based Security Model9.219 Ratings00 Ratings
Multiple Access Permission Levels (Create, Read, Delete)9.818 Ratings00 Ratings
Single Sign-On (SSO)7.910 Ratings00 Ratings
Mobile Capabilities
Comparison of Mobile Capabilities features of Product A and Product B
Pentaho
8.4
11 Ratings
6% above category average
SAP Lumira Discovery
-
Ratings
Responsive Design for Web Access9.510 Ratings00 Ratings
Mobile Application7.38 Ratings00 Ratings
Dashboard / Report / Visualization Interactivity on Mobile8.611 Ratings00 Ratings
Application Program Interfaces (APIs) / Embedding
Comparison of Application Program Interfaces (APIs) / Embedding features of Product A and Product B
Pentaho
8.6
10 Ratings
9% above category average
SAP Lumira Discovery
-
Ratings
REST API8.410 Ratings00 Ratings
Javascript API8.99 Ratings00 Ratings
iFrames7.49 Ratings00 Ratings
Java API8.59 Ratings00 Ratings
Themeable User Interface (UI)8.810 Ratings00 Ratings
Customizable Platform (Open Source)9.510 Ratings00 Ratings
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Score 9.6 out of 10
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User Ratings
PentahoSAP Lumira Discovery
Likelihood to Recommend
9.1
(31 ratings)
7.2
(104 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
8.8
(11 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Usability
9.3
(6 ratings)
7.8
(14 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(2 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
7.0
(2 ratings)
Support Rating
9.3
(9 ratings)
7.0
(14 ratings)
In-Person Training
-
(0 ratings)
6.0
(1 ratings)
Online Training
9.5
(2 ratings)
6.0
(1 ratings)
Implementation Rating
5.0
(2 ratings)
10.0
(5 ratings)
Configurability
-
(0 ratings)
2.0
(1 ratings)
Ease of integration
-
(0 ratings)
5.0
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
(0 ratings)
6.0
(1 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
(1 ratings)
Vendor pre-sale
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
(1 ratings)
User Testimonials
PentahoSAP Lumira Discovery
Likelihood to Recommend
Hitachi Vantara
Pentaho is very well suited to perform data extraction & data mining from various cloud storage & transform that data using various available data models. However, the software struggles when it comes to visualizing the extracted data in an appealing manner & can be difficult for end-users to get an understanding of data tables created using those models.
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SAP
Infographics derived from specific data sources appears to be well suited for development using Lumira. The development of executive level dashboards was less appropriate from my perspective. The software does not provide sufficient demonstration or samples for the users to learn from in my opinion.
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Pros
Hitachi Vantara
  • Integrate and synchronize with big data easily
  • Import data from any sources and different databases
  • Managing data in on-premise, hybrid and cloud environments.
  • Compatibility and flexibility of the platform with any type of scenario and any business or industry
  • Various tools in the software suite to transformation of data
  • Simple interface appearance and creative UI graphics
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SAP
  • SAP has built in features you would expect from a data visualization package, like easy import from other SAP systems.
  • SAP has most of the typical charts that you would expect in order to visualize your data.
  • SAP allows you to have multiple charts on one visualization for your data.
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Cons
Hitachi Vantara
  • I think the relative obscurity of the tool is a downside, not as many developers, consultants or peers you can tap into.
  • Lack of a solid user community held us back, looking at Power BI and Qlik, they have huge user communities that help each other out. Would have liked that here.
  • Smaller company means smaller sales force, and the lack of a local presence made it hard to only interact online with the account rep. Other companies have someone local who often stops by with pre-sales developers to just pitch in free of charge when they have time.
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SAP
  • Even though the process of creating visualizations of data is now greatly improved, it could still be a lot better as users become accustomed to this kind of tool and bring forward edge cases the developers did not anticipate.
  • It would be awesome to have a cross platform tool that works on more than just Windows.
  • Some options for specific graphs feel limiting.
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Likelihood to Renew
Hitachi Vantara
I will use Pentaho until I find a better tool with a better, easier to use report designer client. For now, Pentaho has been the most powerful reporting tool for our clients because of its ability to connect to Odoo, integrate in Odoo (reports are accessible in Odoo) and the flexibility in report design and parameter integration
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SAP
No answers on this topic
Usability
Hitachi Vantara
The Pentaho tools are designed so you can start playing around on your own. Of course, you will need guidance at some point, but the training teams are good at guiding new users, and the online documentation is usually pretty up-to-date.
Some of the tools, such as the Pentaho Data Integration tool and the Pentaho Server, are pretty self-explanatory. The other tools maybe are not so quickly and obvious to use, but again, with some documentation and some customer support, you can find your way around them.
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SAP
SAP Lumira is very good self service analytical tool with powerful capabilities. However need to look into other SAP products in BI space, like SAP SAC. SAP Lumira is more used for custom and complex analytical need in business intelligence area. Also SAP Lumira is going out of maintenance in coming future replaced by SAP SAC.
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Reliability and Availability
Hitachi Vantara
No answers on this topic
SAP
Lumira is a desktop application runs in its own JVM. It installs its own java runtime libraries to avoid any core java version conflicts. The availability of the application is completely relies on individual machine hardware configuration. On a decent desktop, it performs well and always launches in either 32 or 64 bit environment based on the hosts system's OS
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Performance
Hitachi Vantara
No answers on this topic
SAP
The performance is linear with amount of data that is being explored. We have done some benchmarks acquiring 10million data cells without having any performance problems. We need to make proper adjustments to jvm run time properties to start with higher heap size and other parameters that optimizes the run time performance
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Support Rating
Hitachi Vantara
They were responsive to our questions when we raised issues. They gave us workarounds when required. They were quite knowledgeable when it came to issue analysis and providing fixes. They were forthright in informing us if a bug was not due for release soon.
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SAP
It does not have many bugs or issues since not a lot of new features are being added. The customer support for SAP Lumira Discovery is good and anyone considering this as a self-service tool would be happy. It integrates well in the SAP BI suite of products and the overall experience is positive.
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In-Person Training
Hitachi Vantara
No answers on this topic
SAP
We did not take in-person training
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Online Training
Hitachi Vantara
Course Taken: DI1000 Pentaho Data Integration Fundamentals Setup A week before your class started, the instructor will start sending out class material and lab setup instructions. This is helpful so that you understand how the environment is laid out and can start reviewing the content. Ultimately it saved about a 1/2 day trying to setup with 10 other people online which was great! The Course The 3-day course was laid out like many other technical classes with 15-30 minutes instruction and 15-60 minutes of lab exercises. The instructor was very knowledgeable with the functionality from version to version and answered questions as we went along. I was amazed at some of the functionality that was available that I was not using at the time and quickly implemented changes to many existing transformations and jobs. The novice users seemed to catch on quickly and more experienced users explained how some of the functionality was used in their home environments. Towards the end there was enough time so that we were able to ask very directed questions about our own environments. Overall, I really found the class to be informative and deliver enough information to be dangerous. My skills improved and I was able to design better and efficient transformations for the HIE. Course Description: https://training.pentaho.com/instructor-led-training/pentaho-data-integration-fundamentals-di1000
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SAP
Most of the user guides are pretty comprehensive and very easy to understand. The product itself is designed to be self-serve tool, did not need much of the end-user training. Most of the training we had is to how to read the data, how to explore the data, how to acquire the data etc.
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Implementation Rating
Hitachi Vantara
Get the right people in before starting implementation. Start small and build as you go approach is time consuming and involves lot of rework. Evangalize within the organization the capabilities and limitations equally so that correct delivery expectations are set. Set expectations with the Customer that the tool cannot replace proprietary software in terms of stability/usability and that timelines could change given the new ness of the product.
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SAP
Installing the desktop software on end-user machines is always challenging. The machine specifications are the biggest factor when running Lumira and be able to handle large datasets during data exploration. This often demands beefy machines at least for power-users. Although Lumira software licensing is not a big problem but managing partner's extensions and keeping track of their individual licenses may be an issue. If there is a way to bundle the more popular extensions such as vSQL or vOLAP should be bundled in core product and offer them as part of Lumira license instead of a separate license which causer operational burden.
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Alternatives Considered
Hitachi Vantara
Since the Pentaho platform offers a range of broad functionality across data preparation and advanced analytics, it also can be easily integrated to support many data sources and machine-learning frameworks. Based on that fact, we selected Pentaho to be used in our internal department. It also supports many of our BI use cases as required by company management or the business user. Last but not least, the Pentaho license is cheaper than their competitor.
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SAP
Even though SAP Analytics Cloud is considered to be better in aspects such as data connectivity or analytics, we decided to choose Lumira as it was easier to understand, learn and use. As our business is not really that big and does not require the inclusion of large amounts of data, Lumira was overall the safest and most comfortable option. Also, some members in our team had previous knowledge so it was easier to adapt
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Scalability
Hitachi Vantara
No answers on this topic
SAP
Enterprise wide implementation is a challenge with data security and trustedness. No easy installation can be done across the enterprise. no upgrade paths also available from SAP. They have so much of experience with desktop implementation, there it could be a controlled environment with a capital budget. These may be resolved in the upcoming releases
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Return on Investment
Hitachi Vantara
  • Pentaho has improved our overall business process.
  • Pentaho has helped the Managers and Directors to analyze the numbers going up and down from time to time.
  • We have a started a big project using Pentaho that is going to include all the business processes in the organization.
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SAP
  • We could obtain original data from vast and detailed corporate and personal data sources.
  • We could share visual analysis results with stakeholders via the cloud, and it could also be viewed on a tablet.
  • It is very flexible and accurate to use. It can be used for forecasting sales, resource planning, and scheduling.
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