Bonterra ETO vs. Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Bonterra ETO
Score 6.5 out of 10
Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
Case management software that consolidates data, caseloads, and service delivery programs, helping users to save time and serve more people. Bonterra ETO is purpose-built for organizations looking to improve their program and case management. ETO is built in accordance with industry security standards and includes tools that helps users to focus on advancing their missions, as well as: Reduce time spent entering data into separate systems to increase overall data…N/A
Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Score 8.3 out of 10
N/A
Salesforce for Nonprofits, the Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud, is a nonprofit constituent relationship management platform from Salesforce, which supports constituent engagement, fundraising, and grants. Nonprofit editions contain Salesforce Lightning Edition along with the former Nonprofit Success Pack (NPSP) combined.
$36
per month per user
Pricing
Bonterra ETOSalesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Editions & Modules
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Sales Cloud - EE
$36
per month per user
Sales + Service Cloud - EE
$48
per month (billed annually) per user
Nonprofit Cloud - EE
$60
per month (billed annually) per user
Nonprofit Cloud - UE
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Bonterra ETOSalesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesNo
Entry-level Setup FeeRequiredNo setup fee
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User Ratings
Bonterra ETOSalesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Likelihood to Recommend
7.0
(44 ratings)
8.4
(29 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
1.0
(6 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Usability
1.0
(5 ratings)
8.0
(1 ratings)
Availability
9.1
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Performance
7.3
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
4.0
(5 ratings)
9.0
(9 ratings)
Online Training
7.3
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
5.1
(2 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
5.5
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
6.4
(1 ratings)
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(0 ratings)
Vendor pre-sale
6.4
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Bonterra ETOSalesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Likelihood to Recommend
Bonterra
ETO Social Solutions should be avoided until they start caring about the problems generated by their software. In regards specifically to the ARMS suite utilized by the entire state of California, until the ETO software learns how to speak with SOMS, and unless it can be customized by knowledgeable people who consult with front-line users. It is not appropriate to provide the state legislature with bad data. I have 6 years of experience with it and I have multiple sources of agreement from fellow users throughout the state.
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Salesforce
If you only want to track donations, I'd go with something simpler. If you want to track donations and programs and connections between them, there may be nothing better. If you have no technical abilities and no budget, restricted yourself solely to what it does as described exactly in the manual. If you can't devote about 0.25FTE to the constant maintenance and upgrades, don't go with it.
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Pros
Bonterra
  • ETO's customization allows for the use of so many different and unique applications.
  • The ability to build extremely customized reports also allows us to get very detail oriented results or very broad building wide stats.
  • The additional added features such as workflow, referrals, and ETO Engage are useful in their own way and add more ways to better track and record data while simplifying some end-user processes.
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Salesforce
  • NPSP is designed to help with donor management.
  • There are free add-ons for volunteer management.
  • There is a new Program Management Module to better manage program participation and attendance.
  • Campaigns help organize and report on marketing efforts though we use a third-party solution to send out marketing materials.
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Cons
Bonterra
  • The user interface is not intuitive and exceptionally difficult for non-tech savvy people to learn.
  • The system is not as customizable as we were led to believe at the initial purchase.
  • The system does not interface well with other systems. Organizationally we are moving towards data integration, and we will likely replace ETO because of this limitation.
  • Considering the limitations of the system, the cost is quite high. We've seen only marginal benefits of this system over pen and paper, and the ROI is not promising.
  • The initial build process was very frustrating. We didn't understand what the developer was billing us for. Something like simple touchpoint forms was billed for more hours than it would seem to require.
  • A system like this should be both fully mobile compatible and have offline functionality.
  • We would benefit from more nuanced security settings.
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Salesforce
  • Learning curve - very powerful, but takes time to learn
  • Batch processing - takes time and advanced skills to reach efficiency for data entry and certain operations which you want to do in batch
  • Mass email is extremely limited - must choose a third party tool which adds complexity and cost to the system
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Likelihood to Renew
Bonterra
Social Solutions has been great for our organization. It has allowed us to not only report on data, but to dive into it to see trends and give snapshots of the current status of our neighbors. Social Solutions has been helpful in getting us to see additional ways we can use our data and ways that it is easier for front line staff to use this tool
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Salesforce
There is really no other tool to compare and especially since Salesforce for Nonprofits is free!!
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Usability
Bonterra
As a technically savvy person with experience learning new database software systems I find ETO relatively straightforward now that I've been trained in it's use. However, many of our staff are less technically savvy and the learning curve for ETO can be grueling for many, who require frequent troubleshooting and support from me. Additionally, there are small quality of life improvements that would increase usability even for me - such as allowing multiple tabs to be open simultaneously or being able to use the browser's "back" and "forward" buttons.
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Salesforce
I think Salesforce has so much functionality that it makes it difficult in terms of overall usability. Once you can figure it out, it's a 10/10, it's just getting there. If you're willing to do the work to figure it out then you're golden. For what it's worth, I don't know if you're going to find something with this level of functionality that's easier to figure out
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Reliability and Availability
Bonterra
Routine maintenance is announced with plenty of lead time, and the few times I've been unable to log in to the system properly a simple refresh was all that was required to fix.
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Salesforce
No answers on this topic
Performance
Bonterra
Mostly really strong now, although I understand that for some years before switching their hosting service to AWS performance was a real issue with ETO and we had frequent problems with pages timing out or other glitches stemming from performance issues. With AWS that is mostly a thing of the past, although it is still a major issue with the reporting tool which is unable to run reports on the entire database due to performance limitations, instead requiring admins to define universes prior to running queries.
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Salesforce
No answers on this topic
Support Rating
Bonterra
We love the first tier customer support folks! They're friendly, helpful, and knowledgeable within the scope of their position. The experiences we've had with their supervisors have also been mostly good and again they seem to be doing what they can within the scope of their positions. This is what prevents me from selecting 1. Unfortunately, none of these wonderful folks can offer real solutions when things are actually broken. They verify there's a problem and send it to the black hole called "the developers". After that, we don't hear anything useful and we figure out how to live with/work around the problem ourselves. (Requests for updates typically get "still with the developer" responses.) This is highly frustrating given that most of our issues are basic system issues (functionality that worked then broke after an update by Social Solutions, servers not syncing, report universes not flattening automatically, etc.). All we want is for the system to work as designed and to be fixed in a timely fashion when it doesn't. Apparently, that's too much to ask. (And no, we don't expect it to happen instantly, programming and quality control checks obviously take time.)
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Salesforce
I have never had bad conversations with any support people with Salesforce but we also have not used them very much. I put it a little less because we are struggling to switch to lightning (some of our custom features do not migrate well) and it feels like the help and support for a little organization is not incredibly helpful unless we want to spend a lot of money.
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Online Training
Bonterra
Really good trainer and exhaustive curriculum covered, but ETO is a complex enough system that you don't *really* know how to use it until you've been in the trenches for a few weeks. For instance, I took a Report Writing training and emerged with some fluency in the reports interface and a vague understanding of the process, but immediately encountered a legion of instance-specific idiosyncrasies that would have been totally impossible to address in a webinar training for a dozen folks from different orgs working in different instances.
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Salesforce
No answers on this topic
Implementation Rating
Bonterra
Hard to say, as I was not with the agency at the time. However, based on our use of the software ~5years later I can say that there were no catastrophic design choices made during implementation that have become unduly burdensome as we've scaled up.
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Salesforce
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Alternatives Considered
Bonterra
When we made our decision several years ago Social Solutions had just acquired Apricot. At that time it was recommended to use ETO based off our revenue stream. However, it seems like Social Solutions has put in a lot more time and effort into Apricot over ETO and it seems more modern and user friendly. I think it is worth a second look once our contract expires
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Salesforce
As a cloud native organization with no previous Microsoft infrastructure, Salesforce was a more logical and effective option for us. The suite of products was also far more comprehensive and required less customization. We were able to adopt a "configure not code" approach to our development of systems to support our mission that lowered the cost of upgrades.
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Scalability
Bonterra
The core product scales well, and we've grown quite a bit as an agency during our use of ETO. However, there are some real pain points particularly around creating new programs and managing report universes that require extensive offline checklist resources and a full-spectrum understanding of how changing settings in one part of ETO can have downstream impact in other areas. This can introduce a "chilling" effect on proposed changes to the system, where there is strong incentive to leave things as-is to avoid unforeseen consequences.
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Salesforce
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Return on Investment
Bonterra
  • I would say that at this point the overall ROI has been negative as we aren't getting much more out of our data by the switch we made to ETO, but the cost is much higher. I anticipate that will change as we get better at using ETO.
  • Most users that have switched to ETO in our organization prefer it to what they were using before and some are more appreciative of the value they can get from the data.
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Salesforce
  • Salesforce has allowed us to easily track donor communications in one area, which I believe has improved our donor communication overall.
  • Salesforce for Nonprofits has made it easier on my org to track and pull donation-related information and has reduced the amount of time we need to do these regular tasks.
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