Overview
What is Ascentis (discontinued)?
Ascentis HR uses web-based management programs to help automate complex HR processes. Ascentis’ other services included customizable payroll, time and attendance and recruiting modules. Ascentis was acquired by UKG in March of 2022, and will be discontinued.
Santis offers you everything in the sales call and delivers only a part of it. Implementation and often is unavailable to communicate with you at all for a long time
Ascentis HR is where you want to be with your firms HR offering if you want a local company that cares about what they are selling.
Ascentis HR - It just works!
One and a half years in.
User friendly software in a hard times industry
New User w/ Honest Feedback
Medium Product
HRIS and Payroll System Excellence
Ascentis is great and could be even greater with a few tweaks
Short, Sweet and Simple, Sincere Review
More bang for your buck! And great support to boot!
Technical System View
Ascentis--once you get past the learning curve, it's great
Ascentis - Cost Effective HRIS for Smaller Firms
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Popular Features
- Update personal information (151)8.686%
- Pre-built reports (142)7.575%
- Employment history (140)7.373%
- Report builder (144)7.070%
Pricing
What is Ascentis (discontinued)?
Ascentis HR uses web-based management programs to help automate complex HR processes. Ascentis’ other services included customizable payroll, time and attendance and recruiting modules. Ascentis was acquired by UKG in March of 2022, and will be discontinued.
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- No setup fee
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Features
Human Resource Management
Organizing, tracking and providing instant access to critical employee data, job profiles, transfers, promotions, and benefits information.
- 6.7Employee demographic data(137) Ratings
Administrators have the ability to enter detailed demographic data for each employee.
- 7.3Employment history(140) Ratings
Employment history is the ability to track previous positions held.
- 6.9Job profiles and administration(128) Ratings
Job profiles and descriptions can be created and edited.
- 6.7Workflow for transfers, promotions, pay raises, etc.(126) Ratings
Employee move workflow provides the ability to move employees to different positions and apply pay raises.
- 5.2Organizational charting(90) Ratings
Organizational charting is the ability to create hierarchical charts.
- 8Organization and location management(109) Ratings
Organization and location management allows employees to be managed across multiple geographical locations.
- 8.8Compliance data (COBRA, OSHA, etc.)(102) Ratings
Compliance capabilities ensure full compliance with federal workplace regulations by capturing required data in central database.
Payroll Management
Provides for pay calculation and benefit plan administration, in addition to managing direct deposit, salary revisions and payroll tracking.
- 7.1Pay calculation(115) Ratings
Pay calculation provides for computation of employee pay with state and federal deductions.
- 6.1Support for external payroll vendors(62) Ratings
Support for external payroll vendors is the ability to integrate with 3rd-party payroll services.
- 8.3Off-cycle/On-Demand payment(28) Ratings
Provide employees access to wages accrued during the pay period before the end of the pay cycle.
- 6.7Benefit plan administration(108) Ratings
Benefit plan administration is administration of health insurance plans and 401k plans, and other benefits.
- 9.2Direct deposit files(100) Ratings
Direct deposit is the ability to electronically transfer pay to an employee’s personal bank account.
- 8.6Salary revision and increment management(92) Ratings
Salary revision is the ability to modify individual employee pay.
- 8.8Reimbursement management(51) Ratings
Reimbursement management provides cash reimbursement for employee expenses related to business travel or other.
Leave and Attendance Management
Streamlines communication between HR and employees and facilitates efficient management of employee leave including requisitions, approvals, balance calculation, and annual carry-forward.
- 7.9Approval workflow(99) Ratings
Approval workflow is the process for approving employee paid time-off requests.
- 7Balance details(99) Ratings
Balance details is automatic updating of paid time-off balance to reflect time taken.
- 8.4Annual carry-forward and encashment(84) Ratings
Annual carry-forward and encashment enables unused paid time-off days to be carried forward to new year, or paid in cash.
Employee Self Service
Employee portal allowing employees to view and update their personal information.
- 7.8View and generate pay and benefit information(138) Ratings
Employees can view pay and benefit data and print pay stubs.
- 8.6Update personal information(151) Ratings
Employees can update personal profile with change of address, dependents, or other personal data.
- 5.4View company policy documentation(110) Ratings
Employees can review company handbook, and corporate policy documents.
- 6Employee recognition(61) Ratings
thank a team member
- 7.3View job history(108) Ratings
Employees can view all positions held at the company.
Asset Management
Maintaining a record of assets such as laptops, pagers, cell phones, etc. issued to employees. Record typically includes asset type, number, serial number and date of issuance.
- 5.8Tracking of all physical assets(33) Ratings
Tracking of track laptops, pagers, phones, and other company equipment.
HR Reporting
Pre-built and custom reports, and integration with external data.
- 7Report builder(144) Ratings
Report builder allows custom reports to be created using a GUI.
- 7.5Pre-built reports(142) Ratings
Pre-built reports is the provision of a variety of canned reports on employee retention, and other key metrics.
- 4.6Ability to combine HR data with external data(73) Ratings
Ability to bring data from external systems like CRM and combine with HR data.
Onboarding
Employee onboarding is the process of orienting new hires to the social and performance aspects of their jobs so that they are able to function in their new roles as quickly as possible.
- 5.3New hire portal(98) Ratings
New hire portal eliminates printing and mailing with a personalized portal of all required reading, corporate information, and all forms and other paperwork, online.
- 4.9Manager tracking tools(76) Ratings
Tracking tools allow hiring managers to check status on individual hires for all onboarding activities.
Performance and Goals
Goal alignment is the practice of ensuring that all employees have clearly defined goals in support of the overall corporate strategy.
- 6.7Corporate goal setting(43) Ratings
Corporate goal setting is the ability to define corporate goals, and/or vision statements in the system.
- 7.6Individual goal setting(53) Ratings
Individual goal setting is the ability to define individual goals that align to organizational and subordinate goals.
- 7.1Line-of sight-visibility(38) Ratings
Line-of-sight visibility is the provision of line-of sight visibility for each goal to see how goals support overall corporate objectives.
- 7.2Performance tracking(50) Ratings
Performance tracking allows managers to track individual progress against goals as a component of overall performance.
Performance Management
Performance management is the process of ensuring employees meet pre-determined objectives and goals through regular check-ins and appraisals.
- 5.6Performance plans(59) Ratings
Supervisors have ability to build individual performance plans including, goals, competencies, etc..
- 5.6Performance improvement plans(50) Ratings
Supervisors can track disciplinary actions such as performance improvement plans.
- 5.8Review status tracking(57) Ratings
Supervisors can monitor and track review status completion with dashboard showing milestones and status.
- 6.5Review reminders(55) Ratings
System can generate reminders to ensure review completion timeliness.
- 6.6Multiple review frequency(50) Ratings
System supports multiple review types including annual, quarterly mid-year and anniversary reviews.
Succession Planning
Succession planning is the identification and development of internal employees with the potential to fill key business leadership positions in the company.
- 6.4Create succession plans/pools(21) Ratings
Managers can create and manage pools of potentially high-performing individuals.
- 6.4Candidate ranking(21) Ratings
Candidate readiness for key business positions can be ranked and assessed.
- 5Candidate search(27) Ratings
Candidate search provides search capabilities for potential candidates based on attribute or other profile data.
- 5.8Candidate development(23) Ratings
Candidate development is the ability to assign learning and development goals.
Recruiting / ATS
Recruiting or Applicant Tracking Software is software used to manage the recruitment process electronically by handling job postings, applicant status, resume management, etc.
- 5.5Job Requisition Management(85) Ratings
Job Requisition Management – Job requisition management is the ability to create jobs quickly and easily
- 5.2Company Website Posting(79) Ratings
Software allows postings to be displayed on the company website
- 5.7Publish to Social Media(59) Ratings
Software provides ability to publish postings to social media sites
- 5.8Job Search Site Posting(71) Ratings
Software provides ability to publish postings to top job search sites
- 5.6Duplicate Candidate Prevention(57) Ratings
Duplicate candidate prevention prevents candidates already in the system from being added
- 5.7Applicant Tracking(83) Ratings
Applicant tracking allows recruiters to assign applicants to various stages so others can see status at a glance
- 5.3Notifications and Alerts(69) Ratings
Notifications and reminders inform you of tasks to be completed
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What is Ascentis (discontinued)?
Ascentis was acquired by UKG in March of 2022. The service will be discontinued.
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(323)Attribute Ratings
- 6.3Likelihood to Renew12 ratings
- 6.7Availability5 ratings
- 7.1Performance4 ratings
- 7.6Usability44 ratings
- 8.2Support Rating150 ratings
- 8.3Online Training4 ratings
- 8In-Person Training1 rating
- 8.3Implementation Rating5 ratings
- 9Configurability1 rating
- 6.7Product Scalability4 ratings
- 3Ease of integration1 rating
- 9.6Vendor pre-sale3 ratings
- 9.6Vendor post-sale3 ratings
Reviews
(76-100 of 164)Payroll Genius
- The ability to print our payroll checks in house. We are not at the mercy of a delivery service.
- The linking of the HRIS system to the payroll system.
- Quicker customer service.
Back to Basics: Works for Smaller Organizations
We use it as our HRIS system to track and manage employee profiles (job, dept, division, location info; personal contact info; compensation info; emergency details as well as a self-serve portal).
- Simple UI platform
- Ability to run reports and customize reports for various purposes - Report Manager component is easy to use
- Option to view accrued time and breakdown of accrual calculations
- Some errors in reporting data (i.e. location for employee set-up as Vancouver, however, report consistently pulls it as 'Undesignated')
- Employee Manager keeps logging out.. not efficient with multiple log-ins (remote desktop separate log-in from EE Manager, Set-Up Manager, etc)
- Simple UI leaves lots of rooms for error
- Lots of room for error (i.e. delete a field and field still shows up... lots of bugs)
Ascentis HR, both good and bad
- The ESS system is great to have for our employees. This takes a lot of time off of HR and provides a pretty seamless experience for my employees when making changes to their address, benefits, viewing their paystub, W2 etc.
- The new look and feel of the user TimeKeeper interface were much needed. Our system integrates with RFID card readers, which our employees love!
- Originally we had several issues with our EDI feeds, and their team was willing to step in and help set up new feeds with as many vendors as possible. Although, this should have been working when originally set up when brought to the account managers attention (A. Lisecki - who is amazing) we got on the phone with all parties to find a resolution.
- The customer service team is lacking tremendously. If you need assistance on a report or guidance in general, good luck. I will brag again on A. Lisecki
- Because she really is the reason we keep Ascentis HR/Payroll. She has gone above and beyond anytime I needed help.
- The reporting system is very cumbersome and usually provides inaccurate information. You can run the same report twice and it will give you different results. Of course, some reports are beneficial, but for the most part, it's hard to find the common HR reports quickly, such as your turnover rate, demographics, new hires etc. The system does have some of these templates built in, but there is usually a trick to getting them to work correctly.
- All the workarounds! Because we have used the system for a few years now, we know our pain points and have had to find workarounds to minimize the impact. For instance, adjusting benefit dates to ensure they roll over to payroll properly, hire date changes for ESS. At the end of the year, HSA and 401k contributions are also tricky (approving for that year but not approving the new open enrollment selections too soon- based on payroll dates).
- Open enrollment is a nightmare on the backend. Sadly, I always run a report before I submit the new information as I've had open enrollment details not push to our EDI carriers properly. At the time, I was glad I had the report otherwise my employees would have had to do open enrollment all over again.
Ascentis HR Review
- Customer Service - our project manager listened to our struggles and was quick to ensure that she put the right people on our team to get us through. As a company, I feel our "asks" were a little difficult at times but Ascentis helped us get through it.
- Webinars - most of their webinars are very informative and give you more knowledge of the product.
- Implementation - the process is much longer than the sales presentation layout showed. If they had ONE combined workbook for ALL aspects of the Ascentis program, not just HR, it would help speed up the implementation process.
- Manuals - Ascentis doesn't have any manuals for their systems and they are currently working on them. As a new user, it is difficult not to have any type of reference material to refer to.
I am only selecting a 6 because of the struggles we had with implementation.
Ascentis HR
- The Customer Service for Ascentis HR is amazing. They are always quick to respond to any questions that arise and are happy to help in whatever way they are able.
- The Ascentis HR system is incredibly easy to use, even for employees who are less tech-savvy or who aren't on a computer all day.
- The report writing function in Ascentis HR has some limitations as far as what pieces of data you can pull and they can take a while to run.
Professional Software with great value
- Ascentis seems to allow more customization than other HRIS software packages I have researched. It allows you to set up custom tabs, work flows for approvals and renaming of fields so the software can be fit to your business needs.
- Employee self service is relatively straight-forward and easy for general users to figure out.
- Has the ability to run reports on pretty much anything. We use to create lists and cross-check data on a regular basis.
- User interface on back-end could really use some work. Unable to resize or tile windows to fit the user's preference.
- On back-end, it is way too easy to delete or change something on accident. Has some quirks that you just need to know when entering information.
- Very strange tendencies to allow customization of some things, but then not allow others. For example, recruiting software requires help from Ascentis support to delete an email template. UI for self service offers limited choice of fields for some tabs.
- Employee self service and manager self service function is just okay. There is no way for managers to create data-driven widgets or access any data from the system.
Ascentis HR Review
- HRIS
- Benefits Administration
- ACA 1095 processing
- ESS (excluding the widget tool - that is difficult)
- ESS Widgets - the widgets are a great tool but are so cumbersome to build I find we use them less and less
- In our past we used the time system and it wasn't really robust enough for our needs
ASCENTIS - HR and Payroll life saver!
- Reporting requirements are easier met thru both HR and Payroll reports
- HR feeds the payroll system all changes immediately and very smooth (rarely is a change missed and never on the system side)
- There are ZERO duplicated social security number issues using HR!
- Keeping the history of employees thru the HR system is very easy!
- Would love to see a report generator that can pull the history for employee rehires and terminations along with the dates.
- Easier understanding of how to create a report even with using the report wizard. Maybe more training suggestions.
- A benefits only status date (rather than having to use the ones in the employment screen.
Ascentis HR Review
- Used by our HR department to feed payroll.
- Used by accounting to run reports.
- Allows us to keep all employee info in one area--improves efficiency
- Allows for dual authorization--HR inputs data and the Payroll department reviews
- User-friendly
- HR sends changes over to Payroll. You have to approve items for the same employee in the order received or the system breaks--would be good to have the system recognize timing.
Decent Program
It allows other departments to pull this information at any time. The hiccup is sometimes after an Ascentis update, the employee's information may look correct, but once we start trying to pull reports the information will end up jumbled up. When we address with Ascentis, we don't sometimes get a direct answer on why it happened.
- Information at your finger tips
- Available to integrate into other programs
- Zooming in isn't an option, it's very difficult to use a large computer screen with HR Ascentis. The program will still be very small.
- Some reports aren't available for us to pull to do information audits and when we bring this up to support, we have to end up paying for the "extra features"
Great for a growing company
Our company has 100 non-union employees and 70 union employees. All non-union employees use the self-service portal to sign up for benefits or enter personal info. The union employees do not receive benefits from us, therefore we did not add them to self-service.
Ascentis eliminates many spreadsheets and centralizes employee data.
- The benefits open enrollment worked great for us. Employees are able to see all the different options, compare plans, and calculate their monthly premiums as they sign up.
- The self service portal uses widgets that can be customized. We are able to keep employee updated with any changes.
- The report wizard is easy to use. We are able to create reports for any business question.
- Moving from one employee to another in the Employee Manager is a bit cumbersome.
- Moving from remote desktop to a web-based entry point would be nice.
- It would be nice to have all employee info in one place.
A User-Friendly Product
- Ascentis provides well-designed webinars that highlight key, critical information in order to fully utilize the software.
- The HR Support line is very helpful. The representatives are well-trained and have excellent customer service skills.
- The software itself is user-friendly and, in general, intuitive.
- Although the training provided is well-designed, all of it is webinar-based. A few remote classes with a "live" instructor would be helpful for those of us that are fairly efficient online, however, still appreciate interaction with a human.
- When Ascentis is trying to assist with selling additional features to an existing client, a more high-touch, less aggressive approach is appreciated.
- I have had some issues with different passwords for different features. Sometimes confusing.
Ascentis - Life saver!
1.) Ease of access to employee information
2.) Accurate employee information
3.) Benefit management
4.)Reporting capability
5.) Tracking employee documents for compliance.
- A clean system that is easy to navigate through and change information
- Ability to grow into the system and customize to our company's tracking needs and changes
- Robust system that holds a tremendous amount of critical information in one place
- An ability to automatically notify our employees through email/text and banner in ESS for expired or expiring employee documents
- Ability to track variable hour employees for ACA requirements in a more inclusive way. Some way for the system to hold hours worked, during specific periods of time and notifying employees automatically when they are eligible for benefits due to meeting the hour and measurement period requirements.
- As an employee, having access to my personnel file at any time is great. If there is an update to be made employees can make it themselves rather than fill out some update form, submit, and wait for it to get updated.
- There is a link between our payroll system and Ascentis HR which almost seamlessly connects the two. If an employee updates their direct deposit information our payroll software knows. As administrators, we have to approve any changes, but the employee initiates. So, when the direct deposit comes back as undelivered due to the wrong account, the only person there is to blame is the employee themselves who put in the wrong information.
- The payroll simulator is a great planning tool. It helps employees to get an idea of what the impact of different changes would have on their net check. Examples include: receiving a raise, changing your retirement election percentages, changing from a traditional 401k to a Roth, changing your exemptions, etc.
- There is a fair amount of learning and set-up when getting the system but once it's set up it's easy to run and maintain.
- For administrators, the Employee Manager application can be a little difficult to use at times. Trying to find where a field is, or what particular field is that needs updated (there are a couple different attachment areas with different purposes, but not initially clear what's what)
- For administrators, the report running functionality is pretty good but it can be a bit clunky, and the export doesn't always come across in a useable format. Sometimes it's is a clunky text file, others in excel CSV file that's hard to format. There are several 'wizard' steps to go through to run reports and lots of options as you walk through the steps. It means you can really customize your report, but it also means that it can take you many many tries and time to get the report you are wanting. The good thing is though you can save your wizard settings if you will be rerunning the report.
- For administrators, we have to access the management functions through a remote desktop. Sometimes that connection is slow or has issues. Also, it adds an added step when trying to upload documents to employee files, download report exports, or you just want to open a web browser to look something up while you are in there (there are very few pages you can navigate to). It would be nice if the application was web-based without opening a remote desktop.
Ascentis review
- The ability to customize the platform to clients. Not every company is the same and this really helps clients feel taken care of.
- Professional webinars. One of my clients had high praise for the webinars provided by Ascentis and described them as her favorite source of webinar instruction.
- Implementation seemed to take longer than actually needed. My first client with Ascentis was annoyed with the first welcome call that took an hour out of her busy schedule that ultimately had no real need for her to be on the call. She thought she could've been sent an email explaining what the process would be.
Overall a great product
- Recruiting ATS works very well
- Onboarding is awesome
- HR database
- All three are easy to use.
- I would like to see the core HR function house address history.
- The performance management system runs slow almost all the time. Needs to be faster.
- Wish offer letters for onboarding had a little more room for customization.
Ascentis - The efficient Tool
- The great functionality of Timesheets and keeping track of PTO balances and forecasts
- Tracking teammates occurrences and call outs are what we utilize as well
- Expense reports/submitting and approving is very efficient in Ascentis, very user-friendly
- Loading - it's not an internet bandwidth issue, it's the application when you first log in
- The dashboard is very busy when you first log in, maybe a simpler version
- The color scheme can be more vibrant
New to Ascentis
- Our Project Manager was particularly helpful with implementation. She checked in weekly and was quick to respond when we needed additional help.
- We appreciate the ease of report writing and the simplicity of the HR side.
- We like having carrier connections available for our benefits enrollment.
- Timekeeping is actually a separate platform and is clunky compared to the Ascentis side. We really wish the timekeeping piece was under the Ascentis umbrella.
- Novatime is not user-friendly and, unfortunately, that is the part that employees and managers have to use.
I wish it were easier to modify the home page without having to "write code".
- It has performed well in producing 1094s and 1095s
- The onboarding feature is good - not great - just good
- Needs to be cloud-based NOW
- Ascentis needs to develop their own products instead of cobbling different products together and telling people they developed them
- Lose the words "hard coded" from your vocabulary
HR & Employee Satisfaction with HRIS!
- We received rave reviews from employees with our first benefits open enrollment. Using Ascentis all employees were able to complete the process themselves online, as opposed to in our old system the previous year only about 20% of employees were able to complete their enrollment without our assistance. Also new employees are able to complete enrollment on their own with minimal or no instruction.
- Benefit enrollments now flow directly to the carrier. This is a significant time savings as previously enrollments were done manually on each of our multiple benefit vendor sites.
- Our first ACA reporting using the new system was a success. The ability to do this reporting in Ascentis allowed us to eliminate a separate vendor thus saving money for the institution going forward.
- More targeted and flexible reporting allows us to obtain just the information we need at a given point in time.
- The file export to payroll is a much smoother and faster transfer process.
- We are still using remote desktop log in. Having to log in a minimum of three times before we get to employee data is time consuming and annoying.
- While the reporting feature allows access to all employee data, it takes some time to go through all the questions needed to create a report. It would be helpful to have some pre-set up reports using standard employee parameters.
- We would like to see more functionality to capture multiple jobs for an employee. We had to customize those fields, then those fields were not included in standard reports so we had to get customized reports created for us.
- More flexibility for us to run custom reports when we want to run them instead of having a schedule or putting in a request with support to run the reports for us.
Ascentis HR Review
- The Ascentis Recruitment ATS is really good. It is web based and it is easy to work with.
- The Employee Self Service is also a good feature that is offered by Ascentis. It is easy to access and very user-friendly.
- The onboarding feature is an excellent resource to have. It streamlines the onboarding process and it makes it easy for new hires to complete their paperwork ahead of time and it helps with keeping the completion of forms paperless.
- The biggest drawback for me is the HRIS side of the house. It is not web based making it very difficult to access it over the web at any time from any where. The whole HRIS side needs to be completely redone so better easy and functionality. Make it web based and a lot easier to use. I really did not fully understand how the HRIS side of the house worked before purchasing a three year agreement with Ascentis. If I had known that the HRIS side was desktop based, I probably would not have signed up with Ascentis.
- Reports in the HRIS could be greatly improved. It Is not easy to pull reports from the system. There are so many steps you have to complete in order to get the report needed.
- The benefits setup wizard through the Ascentis HRIS is very difficult and a tedious process. There are a gain lots of steps to take in order for a benefit to be placed properly.
Ascentis - Take it or Leave it
- ACA reporting is incredibly easy with Ascentis HR.
- It is somewhat user-friendly for employees to make updates to their elections.
- Ascentis HR is very versatile at selecting different types of reports.
- It's a bit cumbersome to set up the back end.
- You don't have a lot of control over certain aspects of the system. For example, if you want your FSA to pro-rate monthly charges, you have to contact support to create a special drop-down menu. There are other defaults such as adding coverage where Ascentis may default to the beginning of the next month versus the date of the event.
- Carrier connections aren't always reliable.
Not Up to Snuff
- The data is secure.
- The platform is old with cumbersome login
- Not a true integration with Payroll or ERP, need to maintain separate lists
- Clunky and hard to use
Good product for small to mid-size company
Ascentis is used within HR/Payroll for the new hire through separation life cycle. The entire organization uses the add-on timekeeping module and employee self-service module.
HR is in the planning phase to implement the recruiting module.
- Offers monthly training webinars on HR and payroll topics in addition to training on their software.
- Great ACA support
- Responsive payroll and HR support
- System handles processing for multiple EINS well.
- Currently Module based system, the HR/Payroll team must log in to multiple modules to complete tasks and process data or record updates.
- QE benefit changes don't sync well with carrier databases.
- Benefit System does not currently have the ability to lock benefit rates at enrollment age band rate for age banded products. For example, if you enroll at age 39 and next year age banding bumps your rate up, but carrier locks rate at age 39 age rate.
- Separate reporting system in each module
- System does well in a small to mid-size market. Handles processing for multiple EINs well.
- Large employers may find a module based system cumbersome.
Ascentis Review
- Flows to payroll in real time
- Self service portal makes sending messages to employees easy
- The benefits usually do not flow over to payroll very well and need a lot of work
- The information that flows over to payroll can be quite a bit different from HR and it does not receive all the information
- It can take a while to get all the new hire information