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    RSMeans data, from Gordian (Costworks)

    Score10 out of 10
    N/ARSMeans data, from Gordian (formerly Costworks) is a construction and estimation software offering acquired by the Gordian Group in 2014. It includes cost books and construction project estimating software tools.N/A

    UDA Construction Suite

    Score7.6 out of 10
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    Pricing
    RSMeans data, from Gordian (Costworks)UDA Construction Suite
    Editions & Modules
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    Pricing Offerings
    RSMeans data, from Gordian (Costworks)UDA Construction Suite
    Free Trial
    NoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    Features
    RSMeans data, from Gordian (Costworks)UDA Construction Suite
    Estimating
    Comparison of Estimating features of RSMeans data, from Gordian (Costworks) and UDA Construction Suite
    Feature
    RSMeans data, from Gordian (Costworks)
    7.8
    1 Ratings
    3% above category average
    UDA Construction Suite
    -
    Ratings
    Takeoff tools6.01 Ratings00 Ratings
    Job costing9.01 Ratings00 Ratings
    Cost databases9.01 Ratings00 Ratings
    Cost calculator8.01 Ratings00 Ratings
    Bid creation7.01 Ratings00 Ratings
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    User Ratings
    RSMeans data, from Gordian (Costworks)UDA Construction Suite
    Likelihood to Recommend
    9.0
    (2 ratings)
    1.0
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    Support Rating
    5.0
    (1 ratings)
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    User Testimonials
    RSMeans data, from Gordian (Costworks)UDA Construction Suite
    Likelihood to Recommend
    The Gordian Group, Inc.
    Well Suited: Construction cost estimates for new larger projects where the construction will start within the next 6-9 months. Budgetary estimates for future buildings through its square foot models. Not Well Suited: Not accurate enough on small projects where labor, travel to sites, and OH&P are a higher percentage of unit costs than on larger projects where these costs are spread out across more units.
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    UDA Technologies
    If you've never used software before and have low expectations, then you might be able to make it work out.
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    Pros
    The Gordian Group, Inc.
    • CostWorks is very good at generating quick and valid estimates for standardized facilities such as office buildings, schools, etc. It allows you to validate other cost estimates at the UniFormat level when doing an estimate validation.
    • CostWorks' database of detailed line-items is a very resourceful asset when it comes to finding a very specific line-item. Sometimes, when using Success or MII, I will have CostWorks open on the other screen so I can find an item that the other softwares just don't have and build it into the other software from the CostWorks entry.
    • CostWorks does a very good job of generating reports that are both well-developed and have enough detail at the summary level to be able to sit with a client or a project manager and have them follow along and understand without being overwhelmed with detail and numbers.
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    UDA Technologies
    • The beautiful user interface. It looks good.
    • Their videos are professional.
    • They have webinars.
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    Cons
    The Gordian Group, Inc.
    • small project costs where labor is a bigger portion than materials on cost
    • markup factors on governmental projects
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    UDA Technologies
    • Their spell checker creates a squiggly line to tell you that you have a misspelled word, but, doesn't allow you to correct it.
    • The spell checker lets you add custom words to a dictionary, but, it can only use one dictionary at a time to check spelling. So the default dictionary gets used, and your custom words still show up as being spelled wrong!
    • You can't select-copy addresses, in order to paste them somewhere else.
    • Using duplexing on my printer doesn't work right. It works for every other software I own, but not in UDA.
    • There is a bug in the WIP date range that doesn't pull accurate data.
    • "Options" in the estimate show only cost, not margin. So if you show your customer that report, you are revealing cost info, not selling price!!
    • You can't import a PDF into bid notes, even though the premise of UDA is to try to make it a single repository for all your information.
    • You can't use the arrow key to browse photos in UDA. You need to close, and click into the next one. No inuitive functionality.
    • The estimating module separates material and labor, in ways that create a very confusing Scope of Work. You need to select the labor item from your database, then separately select the material from your database. You end up with two line items in your Scope of Work for the same thing. Instead of writing, "Supply and Install a new window" you have "Supply a new window" and then "Install a new window." It's hard for my estimator, and confusing for my client.
    • UDA will WREAK HAVOC on your contacts in Outlook.
    • It does a terrible job of managing husband/wife or partner/partner situations. You can't mail merge them properly, or, you get forced into combining their contact into into a single contact-- and then how do you know whether the cell phone is his or hers???
    • There is no good way to credit design fees against the construction contract, if you happen to use that paradigm for your contracts.
    • There is no way to filter contracts by their date created. So, how do you find your newest contacts for entering them into something such as Constant Contact?
    • If you try to use integration of QuickBooks(QB) and UDA, your ITEMS list in QB will either get expanded to hundreds or even THOUSANDS of items... or, your POs in QB will get created in a summary form such that they are virtually meaningless.
    • The "lead funnel" graphic may look cool, but there is not a good way to actually report on the lead status, track the activities and calls that you make, note significant emails that you write, or keep track of when you send out thank-you cards or spiffs/gifts!
    • They might tell you that these things work, but, after spending MONTHS with UDA, I found out that these problems are deal breakers.
    • Within their customer service department, the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. They do not use a structure such as Zendesk that so many other great companies use. Even though I was paying for priority support, there were often days going by where I could not get a call or email back to assist me with a support request or provide a tutorial on how to do something. Had I not paid extra for support, this would be acceptable. But when paying for "TotalCare" priority support, there are times when the software had me stuck, and I was stuck for a day at a time waiting for an answer. Sometimes no answer ever arrived.
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    Support Rating
    The Gordian Group, Inc.
    I've never had the need to discuss CostWorks with a vendor.
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    UDA Technologies
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    Alternatives Considered
    The Gordian Group, Inc.
    CostWorks is a unique software for estimating as compared to the other softwares I have listed above. PACES is mostly used for federal modeling and really cannot be compared to Costworks. It has its own developed modeling database and has its own quirkiness and issues. MII has been developed for the USACE and utilized a user-developed folder structure and RS Means Database. I use CostWorks along side this software to find line-items that are not in the MII RS Means Database. Success has been developed for NAVFAC and again, utilizes a user-developed folder structure and RS Means Database. When I use this software, I ALWAYS have CostWorks open on the other screen as Success' RS Means database is extremely lacking when it comes to the number of detail line-items. Timberline is by SAGE and I use it mostly for DOS and FAA work. Of the 3 RS Means Database softwares, this one has the most detailed database for reference, however, there are times when I do have to look up an item that Timberline does not have and the first software I open is CostWorks.
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    UDA Technologies
    QuickBooks has great quality assurance and while they don't provide support, their software is nearly flawless. Co-construct provides great support and solves problems. In comparison, UDA Construction Suite is full of flaws, and their customer service department is disorganized and overworked.
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    Return on Investment
    The Gordian Group, Inc.
    • I don't really see any "negative" impacts on my business or my ROI by purchasing CostWorks. It's a valuable tool that we use, however, some of my colleagues do not use it or use it very infrequently.
    • I find it well worth the cost even though we don't develop complete estimates in CostWorks due to client dictated softwares.
    • It has provided very quickly-built estimating models that let our team and project managers know that the RFP or the task that they are contemplating bidding on or starting to work on is actually feasible to construction given the budget and directive.
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    UDA Technologies
    • All my money was wasted. I could not get a refund.
    • All my time was wasted. I spent much time on customer support, and even more time "stuck" where customer support could not be reached.
    • My staff time was wasted, because it was hard for them to implement and then we ultimately abandoned it.
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