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    IBM Storage Ceph

    Score8 out of 10
    N/AIBM® Storage Ceph® is a software-defined storage platform that consolidates block, file and object storage to help organizations eliminate data silos and deliver a cloud-like experience while retaining the cost benefits and data sovereignty advantages of on-premises IT.N/A

    IBM Storage DS8000

    Score8 out of 10
    N/AIBM Storage DS8000 (10th Generation) is an enterprise-class storage for IBM Z and IBM i architectures. It combines encryption with cyber threat detection and assisted recovery – delivering uninterrupted mission-critical data for the world’s most demanding enterprises.N/A

    Scality ARTESCA

    Score8 out of 10
    N/AScality in San Francisco offers scalable file and object storage for media, healthcare, cloud service providers, and others.N/A
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    User Ratings
    IBM Storage CephIBM Storage DS8000Scality ARTESCA
    Likelihood to Recommend
    8.7
    (6 ratings)
    8.8
    (10 ratings)
    8.0
    (3 ratings)
    Usability
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    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    Support Rating
    -
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    8.9
    (2 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    IBM Storage CephIBM Storage DS8000Scality ARTESCA
    Likelihood to Recommend
    IBM
    Large scale data storage: Red Hat Ceph Storage is designed to be highly scalable and can handle large amounts of data. It's well suited for organizations that need to store and manage large amounts of data, such as backups, images, videos, and other types of multimedia content.Cloud-based deployments: Red Hat Ceph Storage can provide object storage services for cloud-based applications such as SaaS and PaaS offerings. It is well suited for organizations that are looking to build their own cloud storage infrastructure or to use it as a storage backend for their cloud-based applications.High-performance computing: Red Hat Ceph Storage can be used to provide storage for high-performance computing (HPC) applications, such as scientific simulations and other types of compute-intensive workloads. It's well suited for organizations that need to store
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    IBM
    Well suited for mainframe CKD based applications. There is unmatched synergy with IBM zSeries when compared to the competition, for example zHPF, SUPERPAV, zHyperLink, cache management and replication technologies. For distributed, the fact that Copy Services Manager comes with the box is a great move on IBMs part to provide replication capability no matter what the applicaiton. I think the DS8k is less suited for smaller distributed environments. I think product overlap with V9000 in this case
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    Scality
    The team in charge of implementing Scality has to be full stack in order to guarantee the correct functioning of the entire system. However, you have to think very carefully about the balance between servers and disks, perhaps adopting smaller fully populated servers instead of large semi-populated servers, which would mean that over time our disk updates will not have a fully useful life.
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    Pros
    IBM
    • Highly resilient, almost every time we attempted to destroy the cluster it was able to recover from a failure. It struggled to when the nodes where down to about 30%(3 replicas on 10 nodes)
    • The cache tiering feature of Ceph is especially nice. We attached solid state disks and assigned them as the cache tier. Our sio benchmarks beat the our Netapp when we benchmarked it years ago (no traffic, clean disks) by a very wide margin.
    • Ceph effectively allows the admin to control the entire stack from top to bottom instead of being tied to any one storage vendor. The cluster can be decentralized and replicated across data centers if necessary although we didn't try that feature ourselves, it gave us some ideas for a disaster recovery solution. We really liked the idea that since we control the hardware and the software, we have infinite upgradability with off the shelf parts which is exactly what it was built for.
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    IBM
    • Remote Copy -- The DS8k has decades of excellent code built to handle the most demanding environments for mainframe or open systems and can be combined with automation solutions like GDPS or Copy Services Manager
    • Reliability and Availability -- This is the platform that gets used for the most demanding environments, even when FICON attachment isn't required
    • Continued enhancement -- IBM continues to put resources into the DS8k and the platform has advanced with the technology from z and power
    • Mainframe synergy -- Poughkeepsie communicates and works very closely with the DS8k developers
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    Scality
    • I love the redundancy of the software.
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    Cons
    IBM
    • GUI based mainetenence should be developed
    • Unable to detect storage latencies
    • VM to disk mapping should be visible so as to save some critical applications data in case of HDD failures
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    IBM
    • The DS8000 family still lacks deduplication and compression algorithms.
    • For best results on replication enablement, optional Copy Services Manager is suggested.
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    Scality
    • The overall packaging is not very good. I think it could be more efficient for installation.
    • There are many components in storage servers. This can generally be complex to understand, you have to be patient.
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    Usability
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    Scality
    As an organization, it took us a while to understand the shift from a traditional black box SAN to software-defined storage, but now we are much more certain of what this means. The time invested and the resources were not very high, thanks on the one hand to the technical support and on the other to the coherence and good development of the platform.
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    Support Rating
    IBM
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    Scality
    I have seen Scality in the office meeting with our VP and get the feeling that they are here to support us.
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    Alternatives Considered
    IBM
    MongoDB offers better search ability compared to Red Hat Ceph Storage but it’s more optimized for large number of object while Red Hat Ceph Storage is preferred if you need to store binary data or large individual objects. To get acceptable search functionality you really need to compile Red Hat Ceph Storage with another database where the search metadata related to Red Hat Ceph Storage objects are stored.
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    IBM
    DS8882F provides CKD storage in a manageable footprint. Its advantage over FlashSystem is its interoperability with IBM Z Systems
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    Scality
    Due to the nature of our business we require extensive encryption and availability for sensitive customer data. The erasure encoding that Scality provides gives us the assurance that documents are rest are never in a state of being downloaded or available to a casual data thief. This is something that can be found with other vendors but at a fraction of the same cost. Having this kind of performance, availability and redundancy at the cost that Scality provides has made a large difference to our organization.
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    Return on Investment
    IBM
    • Ceph allows my customer to scale out very fast.
    • Ceph allows distributing storage objects through multiple server rooms.
    • Ceph is fault-taulerant, meaning the customer can lose a server room and would still be able to access the storage.
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    IBM
    • I do not know the cost. If it prevents future system wide outages, it will be a great ROI for our company.
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    Scality
    • Keeping sensitive customer data secure is a must for our organization and Scality has great features to make this happen.
    • We replaced a single SAN with a Scality ring and found performance to improve as we store more and more customer data.
    • Being able to lose various portions of our Scality ring and allow it to continue to service customers while maintaining high performance has been key to our business.
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