SAP NetWeaver BPM vs. TIBCO Messaging

It is well suited when we need to integrate business processes with SAP ERP and SAP CRM - the solution can be integrated with business rules/procedures defined in SAP ERP/CRM and NetWeaver can be used to monitor the rules and flag off exceptions. When there are multiple workflows running, it tends to slow down running of these processes. Also, it entirely depends on SAP portal for it to run efficiently.

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Organization which uses TIBCO Business Works or TIBCO Business Process Management or TIBCO BPM Enterprise can make use of TIBCO Messaging as it works well with other TIBCO tools. Many TIBCO tools have TIBCO Messaging products bundled as a package along with other TIBCO tools. Use of dynamic topics and queues makes run time processing easier.

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• Virtual paper trail. Iterations of process and current documentation are all stored as "artifacts", leaving a great trail.
• Configuration of users. BPM somewhat magically determines which users will be impacted and automates rules.
• A pro (that is also a con) is the design interface. If you know what you are doing, it is incredibly powerful and malleable.

• Tibco EMS performs very well, and it meets our stringent performance requirements for corporate messaging backbone.
• Tibco EMS scales well, and this is another of our stringent requirements.
• Tibco provides good support for the EMS product, and continues to improve it. This is important as we don't want to use something that does not keep up with the changes in the technology landscape.

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• Live readings would be nice.
• Easier to maneuver
• Work with all systems with the press of one keystroke

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• In terms of TIBCO Messaging, it would nice to have a more out-of-the-box way of linking its objects (queues, topics) directly to those of other popular solutions like MQ or Kafka.
• Not being able to filter (that is, using selectors) through patterns/subtexts on the message body is missed on occasions.
• Given the current trends and state-of-art, lift & shift of on-premise EMS clusters to cloud architectures should be more directly attainable.

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As a big fan of SAP in general, the BPM solution fits right in with all the other things SAP does well, and does it with incredible efficiency

EMS is a solid system and I see no reason to abandon it, in fact I am eager to see what the next versions will offer and future road maps. Knowing we have support to help us in case of problems is invaluable, both in case of critical issues and to improve overall performance.

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We have our own tech support for systems, I would say they probably could use more training on it, I don't really think it's anything regarding the SAP system, but more the knowledge they have on the system itself. It seems to take longer for them to fix any issues we may come across.

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I found the initial setup of NetWeaver is much simpler than other products especially in an SAP environment where we have SAP ERP/HRM/CRM as it can be well integrated with other SAP products. The only drawback is the need/dependency on SAP Portal. It is better suited in an environment where SAP ERP is running.

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We also use other messaging products: IBM MQ, especially for integration with other systems (server2server), which has been an industry standard for a long time, and Apache Kafka for cloud-native applications. EMS is a worse option compared to them, but it is still acceptable.

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• Helped us harness integrated benefit from having SAP ERP/CRM by leveraging NetWeaver to define business processes/rules and monitor exceptions
• Did not have any negative experience except for the fact that at times when multiple rules run, it can be somewhat slow

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• Improved developer productivity as TIBCO Enterprise Message Service requires minimal coding
• Quicker time to market as the configuration / onboarding can be automated with this tool
• Ability to onboard more clients/consumers as the tool can handle large volumes seamless
• Improved visibility on the end to end process as the product provides monitoring by using JMS header information