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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Ideagen Risk Management

    Score7.3 out of 10
    N/AIdeagen's Enterprise Risk Management (ERM) software solution (formerly known as Pentana Risk) fully integrates risk management processes, from identifying and assessing risk business-wide, to assigning and monitoring mitigation plans, all the way through to reporting and defining a long-term strategy for enhanced performance.N/A

    Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps

    Score7.8 out of 10
    N/AMicrosoft Defender for Cloud Apps (formerly Microsoft Cloud App Security) is a multimode cloud access security broker.N/A
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    Free Trial
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    Free/Freemium Version
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    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    YesNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeOptionalNo setup fee
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    Delivers good value for the price
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    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
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    Features
    Ideagen Risk ManagementMicrosoft Defender for Cloud Apps
    Governance, Risk & Compliance
    Comparison of Governance, Risk & Compliance features of Ideagen Risk Management and Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps
    Feature
    Ideagen Risk Management
    7.3
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    1% below category average
    Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps
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    Ratings
    Common repository of GRC items6.41 Ratings00 Ratings
    Risk management8.21 Ratings00 Ratings
    User Ratings
    Ideagen Risk ManagementMicrosoft Defender for Cloud Apps
    Likelihood to Recommend
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    8.1
    (12 ratings)
    Usability
    6.4
    (1 ratings)
    8.8
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    Support Rating
    9.1
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    5.0
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    User Testimonials
    Ideagen Risk ManagementMicrosoft Defender for Cloud Apps
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Ideagen
    Pentana is great for monitoring PIs and risks. We find it less helpful for monitoring projects (with the Actions module); it isn't quite flexible enough for our needs, though the support team have been very helpful in adding custom fields for us.
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    Microsoft
    Microsoft Defender for Cloud Apps is well suited when working with other Microsoft Applications. For example, if you are working with Microsoft Office 365 it works very well when implementing CASB features. It works when implementing monitoring or blocks on Sanctioned applications however customizing the message to users is not that great.
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    Pros
    Ideagen
    • Pentana is excellent for monitoring, recording and reporting on PIs. Very easy to use the PI module.
    • Pentana is excellent for monitoring risks at various levels (service, strategic etc.). Risks are displayed very clearly in a tree structure and the module is relatively easy to use.
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    Microsoft
    • The integration to Microsoft Entra ID is seamless, which allows Conditional Access to redirect the session to Microsoft Defender for Cloud App for it to take actions (Block or Monitor).
    • Tracker users' activity is very good when troubleshooting or running an investigate.
    • Detecting risky users through tight integration with Microsoft Entra ID is a very good feature.
    • Detecting mass downloads and blocking the download of files from non-manage company devices is a very good feature as well.
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    Cons
    Ideagen
    • Pentana could improve the free Documents module that comes with Pentana Risk. At the moment documents have to be linked to an action in order to display query results (such as how many documents are due for review) - this can be confusing for users who don't understand why there is an action linked. There is also no easy way for users to see the documents that are assigned to them.
    • We would like to use the Actions module fully in order to monitor our corporate projects, but it a bit confusing for users and not very flexible when a project doesn't mirror Pentana's way of monitoring actions.
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    Microsoft
    • It takes some time to scan and apply the policies when there is some sensitive information.
    • After it applies the policies, it works, but there is a delay.
    • It doesn't provide any way to scan Microsoft Teams when an external exchange of images is happening. You can always do the filtering on the documents during the chat, but if there is an image, then some kind of OCR capability is required to detect it. At present, there is no way [Microsoft Cloud App Security] can go and detect those kinds of images and alert us
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    Usability
    Ideagen
    Some modules are more user-friendly than others. It's sometimes not obvious where to click to update the fields (or even that field titles can be clicked on). We have written 'Howdys' to help users. There can also seem to be a lot of steps/clicks to updating risks and actions. The Reports module on Pentana classic is certainly not user-friendly, particularly the Report Layout and Charts modules - we were told these would be integrated into the web version but this hasn't happened yet.
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    Microsoft
    The interface is pretty simple and easy to use; however, you will need to do a lot of investigative research on your own to get comfortable with it. Originally, many of the Microsoft security tools had their own seperate consoles. Overtime, they have blended into one interface which is the ideal state. In some cases it is clear Microsoft had to pick which console a certain feature or setting was going to reside in and this leads to some confusion. For example, DLP is managed through Defender for Cloud Apps but you will also need to jump into Purview. For things like reverse proxy on your M365 tenant, you will need to go into Azure and setup conditional access rules. Not a big problem and I can understand why the settings are located where they are but for someone just starting out with Defender for Cloud Apps, it will take some time to figure out.
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    Support Rating
    Ideagen
    The support team are excellent and always answer queries promptly. They are very helpful.
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    Microsoft
    I have not utilized actual support but the Sales and Product teams have been super helpful in moving our implementation forward and showing us the best practices.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Ideagen
    We selected Pentana because our neighbouring authorities are users and had spoken highly of the product and given us demonstrations; some of our staff were also familiar with Pentana when it was called Covalent. It seemed to be the best product on the market for monitoring risks, PIs and projects.
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    Microsoft
    More flexible and more features with easy integration with cloud services like Microsoft Azure and other cloud services. Overall both gives similar features but we prefer Microsoft cloud app security due to its high threat detection rate. mostly we have been able to stop the threat in very very less time.
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    Return on Investment
    Ideagen
    • Pentana Risk has allowed my team to focus on other areas of work whereas before we would be manually chasing for updates on PIs and risk. Pentana Risk does the chasing for us!
    • We are able to produce reports for audit purposes very easily, rather than sending spreadsheets which is what we used to do.
    • New managers can easily inherit risks, projects and PIs and see all of this on a custom portal, saving them time when they start.
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    Microsoft
    • Cloud App Security saves us thousands of dollars finding and rectifying apps security issues
    • Identity Security Posture helps the organization identity stay in shape, saving thousands of dollars on security consultations
    • The cost of suffering a breach cannot be quantified, CAS helps minimize the chances of the attackers succeeding, with excellent historical logging for most operations
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    ScreenShots

    Ideagen Risk Management Screenshots

    Screenshot of a dashboard showing the risk profile and scores for each individual risk, with a range of visual toolsProduct screenshotScreenshot of a step-by-step form filling exercise that guides the user through each field