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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Mirantis Kubernetes Engine

    Score8 out of 10
    N/AThe Mirantis Kubernetes Engine (formerly Docker Enterprise, acquired by Mirantis in November 2019)aims to let users ship code faster. Mirantis Kubernetes Engine gives users one set of APIs and tools to deploy, manage, and observe secure-by-default, certified, batteries-included Kubernetes clusters on any infrastructure: public cloud, private cloud, or bare metal.

    $500

    per year per node

    Proxmox VE

    Score9.2 out of 10
    N/AProxmox Virtual Environment is an open source server virtualization management solution based on QEMU/KVM and LXC. Users can manage virtual machines, containers, highly available clusters, storage and networks via a web interface or CLI. Proxmox VE code is licensed under the GNU Affero General Public License, version 3. The project is developed and maintained by Proxmox Server Solutions GmbH.

    $7.50

    per month

    SAP BPM

    Score7 out of 10
    N/ASAP NetWeaver Business Process Management is a business process management offering and application infrastructure. It supports joint modeling of processes, central process execution via a Java-based engine, provision of interfaces for users, and integration of business rules into processes.N/A
    Pricing
    Mirantis Kubernetes EngineProxmox VESAP BPM
    Editions & Modules
    Free
    $0.00
    per year
    Basic
    $500.00
    per year
    Community
    € 90
    year & CPU socket
    Basic
    € 280
    year & CPU socket
    Standard
    € 420
    year & CPU socket
    Premium
    € 840
    year & CPU socket
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    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    Mirantis Kubernetes EngineProxmox VESAP BPM
    Free Trial
    YesNoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
    YesYesNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoNoNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup feeNo setup fee
    Additional DetailsThese pricing options are compatible with Linux or Windows Server and are per year, per node. The basic version requires maximum online purchase not to exceed 50 nodes. Support/professional services are not included.Proxmox Virtual Environment's source code is published under the free software license GNU AGPL, v3 and thus is freely available for download, use and share. A Proxmox VE Subscription is an additional service program that helps IT professionals and businesses keep Proxmox VE deployments up-to-date. A subscription provides access to the stable Proxmox VE Enterprise Repository delivering software updates and security enhancements, technical help and support.—
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    Mirantis Kubernetes EngineProxmox VESAP BPM
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    Mirantis
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    SAP
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    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    83%
    Would buy again
    5 Answers
    100%
    Would buy again
    9 Answers
    No answers on this topic
    Delivers good value for the price
    80%
    Delivers good value for the price
    4 Answers
    100%
    Delivers good value for the price
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    Happy with the feature set
    100%
    Happy with the feature set
    6 Answers
    100%
    Happy with the feature set
    9 Answers
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    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    100%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    5 Answers
    100%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    7 Answers
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    Implementation went as expected
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    Implementation went as expected
    9 Answers
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    Features
    Mirantis Kubernetes EngineProxmox VESAP BPM
    Server Virtualization
    Comparison of Server Virtualization features of Mirantis Kubernetes Engine and Proxmox VE and SAP NetWeaver BPM
    Feature
    Mirantis Kubernetes Engine
    -
    Ratings
    Proxmox VE
    7.3
    12 Ratings
    10% below category average
    SAP NetWeaver BPM
    -
    Ratings
    Virtual machine automated provisioning00 Ratings7.112 Ratings00 Ratings
    Management console00 Ratings7.112 Ratings00 Ratings
    Live virtual machine backup00 Ratings8.012 Ratings00 Ratings
    Live virtual machine migration00 Ratings6.112 Ratings00 Ratings
    Hypervisor-level security00 Ratings8.011 Ratings00 Ratings
    Reporting & Analytics
    Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Mirantis Kubernetes Engine and Proxmox VE and SAP NetWeaver BPM
    Feature
    Mirantis Kubernetes Engine
    -
    Ratings
    Proxmox VE
    -
    Ratings
    SAP NetWeaver BPM
    10.0
    2 Ratings
    26% above category average
    Dashboards00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Standard reports00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Custom reports00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Process Engine
    Comparison of Process Engine features of Mirantis Kubernetes Engine and Proxmox VE and SAP NetWeaver BPM
    Feature
    Mirantis Kubernetes Engine
    -
    Ratings
    Proxmox VE
    -
    Ratings
    SAP NetWeaver BPM
    10.0
    2 Ratings
    18% above category average
    Process designer00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Process simulation00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Business rules engine00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    SOA support00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Process player00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Support for modeling languages00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Form builder00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Model execution00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Collaboration
    Comparison of Collaboration features of Mirantis Kubernetes Engine and Proxmox VE and SAP NetWeaver BPM
    Feature
    Mirantis Kubernetes Engine
    -
    Ratings
    Proxmox VE
    -
    Ratings
    SAP NetWeaver BPM
    10.0
    2 Ratings
    18% above category average
    Social collaboration tools00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
    Content Management Capabilties
    Comparison of Content Management Capabilties features of Mirantis Kubernetes Engine and Proxmox VE and SAP NetWeaver BPM
    Feature
    Mirantis Kubernetes Engine
    -
    Ratings
    Proxmox VE
    -
    Ratings
    SAP NetWeaver BPM
    10.0
    2 Ratings
    21% above category average
    Content management00 Ratings00 Ratings10.02 Ratings
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    User Ratings
    Mirantis Kubernetes EngineProxmox VESAP BPM
    Likelihood to Recommend
    8.3
    (37 ratings)
    8.3
    (12 ratings)
    10.0
    (3 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    7.0
    (1 ratings)
    Usability
    8.0
    (2 ratings)
    8.8
    (3 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Availability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Performance
    -
    (0 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Support Rating
    7.8
    (3 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    5.0
    (1 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    -
    (0 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Mirantis Kubernetes EngineProxmox VESAP BPM
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Mirantis
    [Mirantis Cloud Native Suite (Docker Enterprise)] is the most advanced tool till now, which works as a VMs
    and separates any single application from the dependencies. Also, this tool is
    helping me in the agile development of the processes. It is strongly recommended to
    almost all major organizations.
    Incentivized
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    Proxmox Server Solutions
    We used Proxmox to implement private cloud services, for clusters
    of a small number of servers, from 3 to 11 with and without high
    availability. Allways with ZFS file systems, and we used to install the
    root pool in SSDs mirrored and use other pools with RAID 10 in groups of
    four, for the virtual machines and containers, for the backups and snapshots, we used magnetic disks with RAID 10, in groups of four. Do
    not use an even number of servers because does not facilitates the
    implementation of High Availability, because the corosync service must
    have an odd number of servers to detect a failed server for the quorum
    system. We used a variety of servers, from clone PCs with AMD Ryzen with 6 cores and 12 threads with 64 GB of RAM no ECC, to high end servers with 64 cores and 128 threads per cpu and 2 cpus per server, with AMD EPYC Rome or Milan, 2 terabytes of RAM ECC.
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    SAP
    It is well suited when we need to integrate business processes with SAP ERP and SAP CRM - the solution can be integrated with business rules/procedures defined in SAP ERP/CRM and NetWeaver can be used to monitor the rules and flag off exceptions. When there are multiple workflows running, it tends to slow down running of these processes. Also, it entirely depends on SAP portal for it to run efficiently.
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    Pros
    Mirantis
    • Containers - Docker is the go-to when using Containers, which are super useful if you need an environment that works both for Windows and Linux
    • Efficiency - Docker is very lightweight and doesn't demand too much from your CPU or server
    • CI/CD - Docker is excellent for plumbing into your build pipeline. It integrates nicely, is reliable, and has an easy set up.
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    Proxmox Server Solutions
    • BackUp System, provides extensive propiertes and verifications. An exclusive server for BackUp Administration (PBS)
    • Hardware Customization. You can select several properties to adapt the hardware to your needs
    • Easy administration. You will be able to manage the server with easily accessible tools such as the web console and usage statistics.
    • Certificates Administration.
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    SAP
    • Virtual paper trail. Iterations of process and current documentation are all stored as "artifacts", leaving a great trail.
    • Configuration of users. BPM somewhat magically determines which users will be impacted and automates rules.
    • A pro (that is also a con) is the design interface. If you know what you are doing, it is incredibly powerful and malleable.
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    Cons
    Mirantis
    • Containers are often opaque - if a container doesn't work out of the box, it's messy to fix.
    • Logging is complexified by the multiple containers and logs are often not piped to places you expect them to be.
    • Networking is complexified due to internal port mapping between containers, etc.
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    Proxmox Server Solutions
    • The web UI does not work as well on mobile devices. It is useable, but a mobile optimised / responsive UI would be nice to have. There is a mobile app, so that may alleviate this issue, but I have not yet tried it.
    • Support in the community forums could be better. There are paid support plans, but new users trying out the software will not have access to this. Answers to questions can sometimes be terse, and I can imagine this may put some people off.
    • The wiki is a bit hit and miss with certain topics. I've often seen outdated or missing information, and the whole thing looks like it could do with some polish. I'd love to see it opened up for the community to add to.
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    SAP
    • Live readings would be nice.
    • Easier to maneuver
    • Work with all systems with the press of one keystroke
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Mirantis
    No answers on this topic
    Proxmox Server Solutions
    Proxmox VE provides the most capable, yet stable virtualization platform in the market today. Licensing options are also competitive and cost-effective for support, and support is extremely fast and knowledgable of getting issues resolved as quickly and soundly as possible.
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    SAP
    As a big fan of SAP in general, the BPM solution fits right in with all the other things SAP does well, and does it with incredible efficiency
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    Usability
    Mirantis
    Docker's CLI has a lot of options, and they aren't all intuitive. And there are so many tools in the space (Docker Compose, Docker Swarm, etc) that have their own configuration as well. So while there is a lot to learn, most concepts transfer easily and can be learned once and applied across everything.
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    Proxmox Server Solutions
    The interface is easy to use for most of it, but still lacks screens for some configurations. Also, a few of the screens are not as intuitive as they could be. This is specially true with disk and network configuration, where some graphic/visual representations of the configurations would be very useful
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    SAP
    No answers on this topic
    Reliability and Availability
    Mirantis
    No answers on this topic
    Proxmox Server Solutions
    Proxmox VE's ha-cluster functionality is very much improved, though does have a not-very-often occurrence of failure. In a 2-node cluster of Proxmox VE, HA can fail causing an instance that is supposed to migrate between the two nodes stop and fail until manually recovered through the command-line tools provided. Other than this, the HA clustering capability of Proxmox VE has proven to be reliable in 3 or more clustered environments with much less chance of these failures to occur.
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    SAP
    No answers on this topic
    Performance
    Mirantis
    No answers on this topic
    Proxmox Server Solutions
    Proxmox VE's interfacing is always fast to load, both the Web interface and the command-line tool interfaces. Reporting is practically real time almost all the time, and you can see everything in mere seconds, easily able to identify if something is wrong or it everything is in tip-top shape as always desired
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    SAP
    No answers on this topic
    Support Rating
    Mirantis
    The community support for Docker is fantastic. There is almost always an answer for any issue I might encounter day-to-day, either on Stack Overflow, a helpful blog post, or the community Slack workspace. I've never come across a problem that I was unable to solve via some searching around in the community.
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    Proxmox Server Solutions
    They are fast, understanding, very intelligent, know their product very well, fast, responsive, and concise. Need I say more?
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    SAP
    We have our own tech support for systems, I would say they probably could use more training on it, I don't really think it's anything regarding the SAP system, but more the knowledge they have on the system itself. It seems to take longer for them to fix any issues we may come across.
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    Implementation Rating
    Mirantis
    No answers on this topic
    Proxmox Server Solutions
    It worked, was easy and super fast to deploy, and provided everything we needed in a matter of minutes
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    SAP
    No answers on this topic
    Alternatives Considered
    Mirantis
    We've used XAMPP, PHPmyAdmin and similar local environments (our app is on PHP). Because of how easy you can change the configuration of libraries on PHP and versions (which is SO painful on XAMPP or other friendly LAMP local servers) we are using Docker right now. Also, being sure that the environment is exactly the same makes things easier for developing.
    Incentivized
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    Proxmox Server Solutions
    Proxmox VE is cheaper than VMware, especially upscaling an HA architecture. Compared with other free or less expensive solutions, Proxmox VE is high compatible with more types of hardware solutions and more VM types. From my point of view, Proxmox VE has no competitor at the same price level, it offers the most complete and production-ready HA solution.
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    SAP
    I found the initial setup of NetWeaver is much simpler than other products especially in an SAP environment where we have SAP ERP/HRM/CRM as it can be well integrated with other SAP products. The only drawback is the need/dependency on SAP Portal. It is better suited in an environment where SAP ERP is running.
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    Scalability
    Mirantis
    No answers on this topic
    Proxmox Server Solutions
    Proxmox VE provides everything you need to quickly add new storage mediums, network and local, as well as networking interfaces, such as using Linux standard bridges and now Open-vSwitch bridges which can be even more scalable than before. Proxmox VE 4.0 dropped support for OpenVZ in favor of the more well supported and native LXC and made an upgrade path to it very simple.
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    SAP
    No answers on this topic
    Return on Investment
    Mirantis
    • Docker has made it possible for us to deploy code faster, increasing the productivity of our development teams.
    • Docker has made it possible for us to decentralize our build and release system. This means that teams can deploy on their own schedule and our dev ops team can concentrate on building better tools rather than deploying for the teams
    • Docker has allowed us to virtualize our entire development process and made it much simpler to build out new data centers. This, in turn, is significantly increasing our ROI by providing a path forward for internationalization.
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    Proxmox Server Solutions
    • Due to the open source nature of Proxmox, we have no licensing costs while training our employees
    • We've migrated 100% of our clients to Proxmox and have found improved uptime, and flexibility.
    • In the 10 years of using Proxmox, we've yet to lose any data or not be notified of backup issues.
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    SAP
    • Helped us harness integrated benefit from having SAP ERP/CRM by leveraging NetWeaver to define business processes/rules and monitor exceptions
    • Did not have any negative experience except for the fact that at times when multiple rules run, it can be somewhat slow
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