Simcenter STAR-CCM+ vs. SIMULIA

Overview
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Simcenter STAR-CCM+
ScoreĀ 9.2Ā outĀ ofĀ 10
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Simcenter, from Siemens, is a suite of simulation tools and software. STAR-CCM+ is a multiphysics computational fluid dynamics (CFD) to study how products operate under real-world conditions.N/A
SIMULIA
ScoreĀ 8.0Ā outĀ ofĀ 10
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SIMULIA from Dassault Systemes is a simulation application for 3d objects.N/A
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User Ratings
Simcenter STAR-CCM+SIMULIA
Likelihood to Recommend
7.9
(12 ratings)
8.0
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Likelihood to Renew
7.3
(1 ratings)
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Usability
7.3
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9.0
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Support Rating
7.3
(6 ratings)
7.0
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Implementation Rating
7.3
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User Testimonials
Simcenter STAR-CCM+SIMULIA
Likelihood to Recommend
Siemens AG
The applications that I have been using it with in terms of flow and energy and temperature distributions and coupled solvers, segregated solvers, these kind of areas if you need that, those kind of solvers, it's very good. It's very robust. Maybe on the combustion side, it could improve, especially if you have these kind of tabulated solvers that you want to use, not the detailed chemistry, then it becomes very difficult to get some results from it. And do you trust the results or not? That's always the question on that kind of application, something that I could think of really fast.
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Dassault Systemes
It appears to be evolving more towards large users with the 3D EXPERIENCE, while becoming less focused on small users like me, becoming more expensive and limiting the number of cores while most PC's now can easily run 8 cores. Of course it is great for non-linear and highly non-linear scenarios, and especially good at combing a huge variety of element types. I guess it is not best suited for linear analysis due to its high price, but even in this case you have to put in the balance the ability to make the best choice of finite elements and being so straightforward about actually using them.
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Pros
Siemens AG
  • If you get your knobs well in the case setup, It is reasonably accurate to compare with any test data.
  • It is good for repetitive workflows where you can greatly benefit from automation in the code.
  • Single Integrated Platform can save your ass to move back and forth between multiple codes.
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Dassault Systemes
  • Create and modify designs from within the CAE environment. Although it has very basic capabilities, it is quite capable of generating 2D and 3D parametric designs. I have even generated some "fancy" designs which ended up being a challenge for draftsmen in specialized solid modeling CAD. I also like the fact that being somewhat limited, it forces you to stick to simple and effective design.
  • Addressing structural instabilities such as snap-through or buckling. This was such a challenge when I started using Abaqus, I had to take a course on "achieving convergence". Coming from there, I can see how SIMULIA has become increasingly able to give you the numerical tools or tricks you need to achieve convergence consistently. In the past I often feared running into different convergence issues as I moved across different produce sizes, leading to changes in the analysis approach, which would make it more difficult to compare them. I just went through a 12-size family in 5 dimensional scenarios each, without a single issue after ensuring convergence with the first couple of sizes.
  • Beautiful pictures. The post-processing of results enables me to generate highly illustrative, fairly easy to understand and elegant presentations, by controlling transparency and results shown independently on different groups, which I can select by material, location, etc.
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Cons
Siemens AG
  • Implementing physics like Cox-Voinov model
  • Mesh related stability issues
  • Chemical & plasma physics
  • Integration with other products from Siemens (similar level as we have with Abacus)
  • Speed up the lagrangian solver
  • Improved guidence on uFluidics & evaporation models
  • Interoperability (HEEDS, AMEsim, System Modelling Workbench but also with non siemens products and open source codes required for LBM, DSMC, PIC, DFT...
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Dassault Systemes
  • Exporting sketches. For example, you can import dxf for sketches, but you can't export dxf. This is a major drawback for me, because I often communicate with customers through dwg or dxf sketches. If I can't export dxf, my sketches in CAE are "dead". I have to redo them in the dwg sketch. It is so inconvenient, I often end up making the sketches in DraftSight, so I can export them to CAE but I still have the originals in dwg format.
  • CAE doesn't remember element type assignment by sets. Sometimes when I reconfigure or modify a design, I regenerate sets and surfaces, and this in turn updates material assignments, interactions and loads almost automatically. This doesn't happen with element types, so I often end up submitting a job with the wrong element types.
  • Mesh regeneration and re-mapping in 2D within the job. I need this a lot to model axisymmetric assemblies with sharp indentation the destroys the original mesh. I had it in MSC/MARC and it worked great. Abaqus has it only for 3D. I have tried alternatives like lagrangian/eulerian and eulerian domains but it's still more complicated.
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Usability
Siemens AG
Great single window GUI
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Dassault Systemes
Extremely well organized and friendly, reflecting the latest approaches in solid modeling and adding the FEA part so seamlessly for the user. It's a joy to use. I'm aware some people would complain about the meshing capabilities and thus prefer using HYPERMESH. Fortunately not my case. I did wish I had HYPERMESH a couple of times, but for most of my projects CAE meshing is fine.
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Support Rating
Siemens AG
Our designated support engineers do a proper job. On the outdated Help file and training material there is a lot to gain
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Dassault Systemes
I keep getting the feeling that it is drifting away from small users. I don't feel so comfortable with the SWYM community approach. I felt much better when you could just email or call HKS and you would feel like you were talking to a real expert who understood your situation. When I was reassigned to reseller in Argentina, which is like the other side of the world for me, I appreciated the cultural closeness, but I had to say goodbye to the level of support I had from HKS and learned to "support myself."
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Implementation Rating
Siemens AG
It is super easy when it comes to implementing it.
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Dassault Systemes
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Siemens AG
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Dassault Systemes
MARC can do the job from an FEA point of view. It even appears better at a couple of things such as 2D remeshing and surviving with highly distorted meshes. So I regard it as a very competitive alternative. I prefer SIMULIA because the GUI is so much better, especially the ability to create actual parametric designs in CAE. ANSYS doesn't cut it for me. I tried it for 1 month and I would see how much I would struggle with convergence in large deformation and large displacement situations with hyperelastic materials with which I have to deal all the time. Also the GUI is not as well built an integrated as in SIMULIA.
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Return on Investment
Siemens AG
  • Time saved in creating a inhouse code, tens and tens of hours.
  • Time saved in experimental setup, tens of hours.
  • Does add some time in testing to confirm star is doing what you think it's doing, but an overall net gain in productivity.
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Dassault Systemes
  • I don't even bother doing an ROI. Without SIMULIA I would be pretty much out of business. Except for the fact that I could still have an alternative with MSC/MARC.
  • Price is becoming a more difficult hurdle for small users. It appears I have survived because there was a 50% discount on my small 6-token package. Without this special price I would have to close my business. I'm currently exploring alternatives.
  • A more flexible scheme enabling to add tokens over short periods of time or paying per use could be an interesting possibility.
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Simcenter STAR-CCM+ Screenshots

Screenshot of Multiphysics Computational Fluid Dynamics (CFD) simulationScreenshot of Car aerodynamics CFD simulationScreenshot of Integrated Design Exploration and OptimizationScreenshot of Fully integrated CFD based topology optimizationScreenshot of Multiphysics CFD - Electric Motor CoolingScreenshot of Multiphase Flows