Apache Spark vs. Presto vs. SAP Vora

Well suited: To most of the local run of datasets and non-prod systems - scalability is not a problem at all. Including data from multiple types of data sources is an added advantage. MLlib is a decently nice built-in library that can be used for most of the ML tasks. Less appropriate: We had to work on a RecSys where the music dataset that we used was around 300+Gb in size. We faced memory-based issues. Few times we also got memory errors. Also the MLlib library does not have support for advanced analytics and deep-learning frameworks support. Understanding the internals of the working of Apache Spark for beginners is highly not possible.

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Presto is for interactive simple queries, where Hive is for reliable processing. If you have a fact-dim join, presto is great..however for fact-fact joins presto is not the solution.. Presto is a great replacement for proprietary technology like Vertica

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I spent more than 1 year with SAP Vora, SAP Datahub and SAP Leonardo with ML, iOt. I believe this product has potential but it is not easy to adopt. SAP has to keep in mind how open-source big data technologies are able to deliver quick results. I know SAP is stabilizing and fighting hard against many open source technologies, but it still has a long way to go there.

Incentivized

• Rich APIs for data transformation making for very each to transform and prepare data in a distributed environment without worrying about memory issues
• Faster in execution times compare to Hadoop and PIG Latin
• Easy SQL interface to the same data set for people who are comfortable to explore data in a declarative manner
• Interoperability between SQL and Scala / Python style of munging data

Incentivized

• Linking, embedding links and adding images is easy enough.
• Once you have become familiar with the interface, Presto becomes very quick & easy to use (but, you have to practice & repeat to know what you are doing - it is not as intuitive as one would hope).
• Organizing & design is fairly simple with click & drag parameters.

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• Modelling with SAP HANA and Hadoop
• Realtime Analysis using Vora and HANA as a Streaming engine
• Time series Analysis on large chunks of datasets
• Machine learning capabilities on Hadoop tables and spark contexts

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• Memory management. Very weak on that.
• PySpark not as robust as scala with spark.
• spark master HA is needed. Not as HA as it should be.
• Locality should not be a necessity, but does help improvement. But would prefer no locality

Incentivized

• Presto was not designed for large fact fact joins. This is by design as presto does not leverage disk and used memory for processing which in turn makes it fast.. However, this is a tradeoff..in an ideal world, people would like to use one system for all their use cases, and presto should get exhaustive by solving this problem.
• Resource allocation is not similar to YARN and presto has a priority queue based query resource allocation..so a query that takes long takes longer...this might be alleviated by giving some more control back to the user to define priority/override.
• UDF Support is not available in presto. You will have to write your own functions..while this is good for performance, it comes at a huge overhead of building exclusively for presto and not being interoperable with other systems like Hive, SparkSQL etc.

Incentivized

• Vora 2.0 in on premise scenarios could be improved, as adoption of the cloud is not an easy sell.
• Kubernetes and Docker integration need to be more seamless and quick to understand. If this is simplified, it will be easy to adopt
• Data hub orchestration and integrations could be simplified so that quick adoption within SAP BW, ECC, S4 HANa scenarios is possible.

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Capacity of computing data in cluster and fast speed.

If the team looking to use Apache Spark is not used to debug and tweak settings for jobs to ensure maximum optimizations, it can be frustrating. However, the documentation and the support of the community on the internet can help resolve most issues. Moreover, it is highly configurable and it integrates with different tools (eg: it can be used by dbt core), which increase the scenarios where it can be used

Incentivized

1. It integrates very well with scala or python. 2. It's very easy to understand SQL interoperability. 3. Apache is way faster than the other competitive technologies. 4. The support from the Apache community is very huge for Spark. 5. Execution times are faster as compared to others. 6. There are a large number of forums available for Apache Spark. 7. The code availability for Apache Spark is simpler and easy to gain access to. 8. Many organizations use Apache Spark, so many solutions are available for existing applications.

Spark in comparison to similar technologies ends up being a one stop shop. You can achieve so much with this one framework instead of having to stitch and weave multiple technologies from the Hadoop stack, all while getting incredibility performance, minimal boilerplate, and getting the ability to write your application in the language of your choosing.

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Presto is good for a templated design appeal. You cannot be too creative via this interface - but, the layout and options make the finalized visual product appealing to customers. The other design products I use are for different purposes and not really comparable to Presto.

Incentivized

• Business leaders are able to take data driven decisions
• Business users are able access to data in near real time now . Before using spark, they had to wait for at least 24 hours for data to be available
• Business is able come up with new product ideas

Incentivized

• Presto has helped scale Uber's interactive data needs. We have migrated a lot out of proprietary tech like Vertica.
• Presto has helped build data driven applications on its stack than maintain a separate online/offline stack.
• Presto has helped us build data exploration tools by leveraging it's power of interactive and is immensely valuable for data scientists.

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• Negative impact would be Poc and RFI will need more time to adopt and decision making gets delayed
• Positive impact would be it's a great leap from SAP to adopt a Big data technologies and AI within cloud stream. But selling is going to take time.

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