dbt vs. erwin Data Modeler

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
dbt
Score 9.4 out of 10
N/A
dbt is an SQL development environment, developed by Fishtown Analytics, now known as dbt Labs. The vendor states that with dbt, analysts take ownership of the entire analytics engineering workflow, from writing data transformation code to deployment and documentation. dbt Core is distributed under the Apache 2.0 license, and paid Teams and Enterprise editions are available.
$0
per month per seat
erwin Data Modeler
Score 8.9 out of 10
N/A
erwin Data Modeler by Quest is a data modeling tool used to find, visualize, design, deploy and standardize high-quality enterprise data assets. It can discover and document any data from anywhere for consistency, clarity and artifact reuse across large-scale data integration, master data management, metadata management, Big Data, business intelligence and analytics initiatives, accomplishing this whil esupporting data governance and intelligence efforts.N/A
Pricing
dbterwin Data Modeler
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
dbterwin Data Modeler
Free Trial
YesYes
Free/Freemium Version
YesNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesYes
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeOptional
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Features
dbterwin Data Modeler
Data Transformations
Comparison of Data Transformations features of Product A and Product B
dbt
9.7
5 Ratings
15% above category average
erwin Data Modeler
-
Ratings
Simple transformations9.55 Ratings00 Ratings
Complex transformations9.95 Ratings00 Ratings
Data Modeling
Comparison of Data Modeling features of Product A and Product B
dbt
9.0
5 Ratings
10% above category average
erwin Data Modeler
-
Ratings
Data model creation9.15 Ratings00 Ratings
Metadata management8.65 Ratings00 Ratings
Business rules and workflow8.05 Ratings00 Ratings
Collaboration9.83 Ratings00 Ratings
Testing and debugging9.55 Ratings00 Ratings
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User Ratings
dbterwin Data Modeler
Likelihood to Recommend
9.6
(7 ratings)
6.1
(7 ratings)
Usability
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(2 ratings)
Support Rating
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(3 ratings)
User Testimonials
dbterwin Data Modeler
Likelihood to Recommend
dbt Labs
If you can load your data first into your warehouse, dbt is excellent. It does the T(ransformation) part of ELT brilliantly but does not do the E(xtract) or L(oad) part. If you know SQL or your development team knows SQL, it's a framework and extension around that. So, it's easy to learn and easy to hire people with that technical skill (as opposed to specific Informatica, SnapLogic, etc. experience). dbt uses plain text files and integrates with GitHub. You can easily see the changes made between versions. In GUI-based UIs it was always hard to tell what someone had changed. Each "model" is essentially a "SELECT" statement. You never need to do a "CREATE TABLE" or "CREATE VIEW" - it's all done for you, leaving you to work on the business logic. Instead of saying "FROM specific_db.schema.table" you indicate "FROM ref('my_other_model')". It creates an internal dependency diagram you can view in a DAG. When you deploy, the dependencies work like magic in your various environments. They also have great documentation, an active slack community, training, and support. I like the enhancements they have been making and I believe they are headed in a good direction.
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Quest Software
I have had a chance to use few other data modeling tools from Quest and Oracle, but I am most comfortable using erwin Data Modeler. They understand your data modeling needs and have designed the software to give you a feeling of completeness when you are designing a data model.
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Pros
dbt Labs
  • user experience makes it easy to work with SQL and version control
  • customer success team and the dbt (data build tool) community help establish best practices
  • thorough and clear documentation
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Quest Software
  • Reverse Engineering: I love the way we can import an SQL file containing schema meta data and generate ER diagram out of it. This is specifically useful if you are implementing erwin Data Modeler for an existing database.
  • Forward Engineering: We use this feature very frequently. Where we do database changes in our physical and logical data models and then generate deployment scripts for the changes made.
  • Physical vs Logical Models: I like to have my database model split into physical and logical models and at the same time still linked to each other. Any changes you make to logical model or physical model shows up in the other.
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Cons
dbt Labs
  • Slow load times of the dbt cloud environment (they're working on it via a new UI though)
  • More out-of-the-box solutions for managing procedures, functions, etc would be nice to have, but honestly, it's pretty easy to figure out how to adapt dbt macros
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Quest Software
  • Cost is the single largest barrier to entry with this tool.
  • Would like to see a greater variety of export options available for use outside of the tool, for example as a vector graphic.
  • Support has been uneven at times.
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Usability
dbt Labs
No answers on this topic
Quest Software
I had a lot of experience using erwin Data Modeler for designing data models. I think it's pretty intuitive and easy to use. It has enough features to represent your database requirements in form of a model.
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Support Rating
dbt Labs
No answers on this topic
Quest Software
CA customer support and our account manager have been able to support us with any issues that we have had, from managing our serial keys to issues we logged tickets to resolve. There are aspects of key management that have made it difficult over the years but support usually has worked with us.
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Alternatives Considered
dbt Labs
Most ETL pipeline products have a T layer, but dbt just does it better. The transformation is on steroids compared to the others. Also, just allows much more Adhoc solutions for very specific projects. Those ETL tools are probably better on the T part if you don't need too many transforms - also dbt is pretty much free dependent on how you work it, also extremely scalable.
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Quest Software
Not listed, but I've only used alternatives built into something like the Squirrel SQL editor. That one is semi-functional but lacking many features and, in some instances, just plain wrong. The only pro there is that it's freely available and works over ODBC. I've tried some of the other free ones like Creately but didn't have much success.
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Return on Investment
dbt Labs
  • Simplified our BI layer for faster load times
  • Increased the quality of data reaching our end users
  • Makes complex transformations manageable
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Quest Software
  • It is difficult to assign a monetary value to it. The initial learning curve was fairly long.
  • It allows us to have better support documentation.
  • It allows ease of communications between functional units.
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