dbt vs. Toad Data Point

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
dbt
Score 9.4 out of 10
N/A
dbt is an SQL development environment, developed by Fishtown Analytics, now known as dbt Labs. The vendor states that with dbt, analysts take ownership of the entire analytics engineering workflow, from writing data transformation code to deployment and documentation. dbt Core is distributed under the Apache 2.0 license, and paid Teams and Enterprise editions are available.
$0
per month per seat
Toad Data Point
Score 8.1 out of 10
N/A
Toad Data Point is a cross-platform, self-service, data-integration tool that simplifies data access, preparation and provisioning. It provides data connectivity and desktop data integration, and with the Workbook interface for business users, it provides simple-to-use visual query building and workflow automation.
$365
Pricing
dbtToad Data Point
Editions & Modules
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Base Edition
$365
Pro Edition
$528
Offerings
Pricing Offerings
dbtToad Data Point
Free Trial
YesNo
Free/Freemium Version
YesNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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Features
dbtToad Data Point
Data Transformations
Comparison of Data Transformations features of Product A and Product B
dbt
9.7
5 Ratings
15% above category average
Toad Data Point
-
Ratings
Simple transformations9.55 Ratings00 Ratings
Complex transformations9.95 Ratings00 Ratings
Data Modeling
Comparison of Data Modeling features of Product A and Product B
dbt
9.0
5 Ratings
10% above category average
Toad Data Point
-
Ratings
Data model creation9.15 Ratings00 Ratings
Metadata management8.65 Ratings00 Ratings
Business rules and workflow8.05 Ratings00 Ratings
Collaboration9.83 Ratings00 Ratings
Testing and debugging9.55 Ratings00 Ratings
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User Ratings
dbtToad Data Point
Likelihood to Recommend
9.6
(7 ratings)
7.0
(10 ratings)
Usability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(2 ratings)
User Testimonials
dbtToad Data Point
Likelihood to Recommend
dbt Labs
If you can load your data first into your warehouse, dbt is excellent. It does the T(ransformation) part of ELT brilliantly but does not do the E(xtract) or L(oad) part. If you know SQL or your development team knows SQL, it's a framework and extension around that. So, it's easy to learn and easy to hire people with that technical skill (as opposed to specific Informatica, SnapLogic, etc. experience). dbt uses plain text files and integrates with GitHub. You can easily see the changes made between versions. In GUI-based UIs it was always hard to tell what someone had changed. Each "model" is essentially a "SELECT" statement. You never need to do a "CREATE TABLE" or "CREATE VIEW" - it's all done for you, leaving you to work on the business logic. Instead of saying "FROM specific_db.schema.table" you indicate "FROM ref('my_other_model')". It creates an internal dependency diagram you can view in a DAG. When you deploy, the dependencies work like magic in your various environments. They also have great documentation, an active slack community, training, and support. I like the enhancements they have been making and I believe they are headed in a good direction.
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Quest
Appropriate for general querying and some DBA work. It's the universal least-offensive solution for most environments - not best of breed, but not subject to unusual/extensive requirements. It just works. On the other hand, some functionality (e.g. data import/export, snippets) are perfunctory and minimal and seem to be either difficult or impossible to automate. If you need to streamline those operations, you'll be forced to rely on third-party solutions that mostly work on top of (instead of with) TOAD.
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Pros
dbt Labs
  • user experience makes it easy to work with SQL and version control
  • customer success team and the dbt (data build tool) community help establish best practices
  • thorough and clear documentation
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Quest
  • Export data into excel.
  • Export data into excel using a pivot table functionality.
  • Navigation between windows is intuitive and easy to understand.
  • Good for SQL novices and experts alike.
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Cons
dbt Labs
  • Slow load times of the dbt cloud environment (they're working on it via a new UI though)
  • More out-of-the-box solutions for managing procedures, functions, etc would be nice to have, but honestly, it's pretty easy to figure out how to adapt dbt macros
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Quest
  • The workflow is a relatively new feature. Quest is adding additional functionality and the workflows are useful now.
  • Would be nice if the 'Automate' feature was a bit easier to use.
  • Would be nice if some of the SQL Editor features in the traditional interface worked better in the new workflow interface (although, these are being fixed with each release).
  • Would be nice if there were fewer releases.
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Usability
dbt Labs
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Quest
I find Toad Data Point easy to use for both the novice and the experienced business analyst. If all you desire is to access data and create spreadsheets...this is a snap. Toad Data Point actually has cool data analysis features built into it. The newer workflow interface makes automating steps a snap
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Alternatives Considered
dbt Labs
Most ETL pipeline products have a T layer, but dbt just does it better. The transformation is on steroids compared to the others. Also, just allows much more Adhoc solutions for very specific projects. Those ETL tools are probably better on the T part if you don't need too many transforms - also dbt is pretty much free dependent on how you work it, also extremely scalable.
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Quest
Although Toad and UltraEdit are both great products, from an SQL standpoint Toad is a much better editor and troubleshooter.
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Return on Investment
dbt Labs
  • Simplified our BI layer for faster load times
  • Increased the quality of data reaching our end users
  • Makes complex transformations manageable
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Quest
  • It is the least common denominator - not particularly optimized for our environment or workflows.
  • Hangs or slowdowns add anywhere from 5% - 7% for projects utilizing large/complicated data setts. (This could be due to other IT-imposed constraints and not entirely due to TOAD.)
  • Trying to perform some operations requires reading documentation and experimenting in order to figure out the TOAD-specific approaches and commands.
  • It just works (when we understand it). Updates don't break things and things don't suddenly start behaving differently. Best of all, we don't mysteriously lose functionality.
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