Elasticsearch vs. ManageEngine Applications Manager

Elasticsearch is a really scalable solution that can fit a lot of needs, but the bigger and/or those needs become, the more understanding & infrastructure you will need for your instance to be running correctly. Elasticsearch is not problem-free - you can get yourself in a lot of trouble if you are not following good practices and/or if are not managing the cluster correctly. Licensing is a big decision point here as Elasticsearch is a middleware component - be sure to read the licensing agreement of the version you want to try before you commit to it. Same goes for long-term support - be sure to keep yourself in the know for this aspect you may end up stuck with an unpatched version for years.

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It has strength in collecting information through SSH, WMI, Telnet, SNMP, http, https, MSSQL ports (several types of DB postgresql, db2, SAP MaxDB, HANA which we must monitor).The information it extracts is very useful to us since each type of monitor gives us visibility of what happens internally in them.The truth is that the needs that we have had during these years, ManageEngine Application Manager has been able to cover them especially with business core (ERP) with monitoring of SAP Server and SAP CCMS.

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• As I mentioned before, Elasticsearch's flexible data model is unparalleled. You can nest fields as deeply as you want, have as many fields as you want, but whatever you want in those fields (as long as it stays the same type), and all of it will be searchable and you don't need to even declare a schema beforehand!
• Elastic, the company behind Elasticsearch, is super strong financially and they have a great team of devs and product managers working on Elasticsearch. When I first started using ES 3 years ago, I was 90% impressed and knew it would be a good fit. 3 years later, I am 200% impressed and blown away by how far it has come and gotten even better. If there are features that are missing or you don't think it's fast enough right now, I bet it'll be suitable next year because the team behind it is so dang fast!
• Elasticsearch is really, really stable. It takes a lot to bring down a cluster. It's self-balancing algorithms, leader-election system, self-healing properties are state of the art. We've never seen network failures or hard-drive corruption or CPU bugs bring down an ES cluster.

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• Intuitive ease of the administration interface
• Improvements and security fixes that are quickly integrated with frequent updates
• Visibility into the status of our services and the end user experience (End to End)
• Reports associated with attributes of services, applications or containers that help us detect certain flaws in our services.

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• Joining data requires duplicate de-normalized documents that make parent child relationships. It is hard and requires a lot of synchronizations
• Tracking errors in the data in the logs can be hard, and sometimes recurring errors blow up the error logs
• Schema changes require complete reindexing of an index

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• Plugin Quirks where it times out
• Navigation through some of the screen seems a bit confusing
• Consistency such as where license info is location between op and app manager are in different places. Better if it were consistent
• Maintenance schedules in different locations in both Op and App manger product, needs consistency. They are all Zoho products!!

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We're pretty heavily invested in ElasticSearch at this point, and there aren't any obvious negatives that would make us reconsider this decision.

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For the the trust, security and support that ManageEngine Application Manager has given us, for 12 years as clients, has made us very satisfied and grateful for the response times to resolve doubts or needs that we have had.

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To get started with Elasticsearch, you don't have to get very involved in configuring what really is an incredibly complex system under the hood. You simply install the package, run the service, and you're immediately able to begin using it. You don't need to learn any sort of query language to add data to Elasticsearch or perform some basic searching. If you're used to any sort of RESTful API, getting started with Elasticsearch is a breeze. If you've never interacted with a RESTful API directly, the journey may be a little more bumpy. Overall, though, it's incredibly simple to use for what it's doing under the covers.

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The intuitive ease of the administration interface, the new features, improvements and security fixes that are quickly integrated with frequent updates. Tuning or more detailed reports associated with attributes of services, applications or containers that help us detect certain flaws in our services. The capacity for improvements that are implemented and the ease of integrating new monitors into the product, which we need, gives us the speed and ease of preventing interruptions or events that helps us avoid.

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We've only used it as an opensource tooling. We did not purchase any additional support to roll out the elasticsearch software. When rolling out the application on our platform we've used the documentation which was available online. During our test phases we did not experience any bugs or issues so we did not rely on support at all.

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The trust, security and support that ManageEngine Application Manager has given us, for 12 years as clients, has made us very satisfied and grateful for the response times to resolve doubts or needs that we have had.

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Do not mix data and master roles. Dedicate at least 3 nodes just for Master

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As far as we are concerned, Elasticsearch is the gold standard and we have barely evaluated any alternatives. You could consider it an alternative to a relational or NoSQL database, so in cases where those suffice, you don't need Elasticsearch. But if you want powerful text-based search capabilities across large data sets, Elasticsearch is the way to go.

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Other solutions like Microsoft EM and SCCM can be interdependent and cause all sorts of issues and additional costs. I think software should be optionally integrated and work on its own as a standalone solution. I like that ManageEngine allows for specific use of its software and not forcing users into an unneeded license or contract.

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• We have had great luck with implementing Elasticsearch for our search and analytics use cases.
• While the operational burden is not minimal, operating a cluster of servers, using a custom query language, writing Elasticsearch-specific bulk insert code, the performance and the relative operational ease of Elasticsearch are unparalleled.
• We've easily saved hundreds of thousands of dollars implementing Elasticsearch vs. RDBMS vs. other no-SQL solutions for our specific set of problems.

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• By providing valuable insights into application performance and resource utilization, it has contributed to better decision-making and resource allocation.
• It has helped us identify and resolve performance issues more quickly, minimizing the impact on business operations.
• ManageEngine Application Manager has improved our ability to monitor and manage critical applications, reducing downtime and improving overall productivity.

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