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    HCL Domino

    Score8 out of 10
    N/AHCL Domino (formerly IBM Domino, and before that Lotus Domino) is an enterprise application development platform, boasting mobile-app capabilities to enterprise authentication and a companion low-code app builder called Domino Volt.N/A

    IBM Cloud Pak for Applications

    Score7.2 out of 10
    N/AIBM Cloud Pak® for Applications (CP4Apps) is an end-to-end hybrid cloud application platform, providing flexibility for deployments, building new cloud-native applications, refactoring and re-platforming existing applications. Designed to leverage a collection of application runtimes, modernization tools and a Kubernetes container platform to adapt to their landscape needs.N/A
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    HCL DominoIBM Cloud Pak for Applications
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    HCL DominoIBM Cloud Pak for Applications
    Free Trial
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    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    User Ratings
    HCL DominoIBM Cloud Pak for Applications
    Likelihood to Recommend
    8.0
    (4 ratings)
    7.2
    (3 ratings)
    Usability
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    User Testimonials
    HCL DominoIBM Cloud Pak for Applications
    Likelihood to Recommend
    HCLSoftware
    If you're looking for a high-security environment, then Domino is great. The built-in cybersecurity features are seamless, unlike those in the Microsoft or Google environments. Large databases are easily managed, and Domino enables us to automate many of our business workflows. It's easier to use than Microsoft PowerApps, for example. It doesn't integrate easily with other systems, which can be problematic at times. And because of the long-term lack of support from when IBM owned it, the user community has dwindled somewhat, making it hard to reach out for help.
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    IBM
    Well suited for customers who are looking for cloud-adoption, and finally to meet the challenges of business innovation for the competitive advantage through DevOps.
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    Pros
    HCLSoftware
    • Security
    • Total Cost of Ownership
    • Compatibility (20+ year old applications continue to run with no issues)
    • Upgrades - these are 30 minute tasks.
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    IBM
    • Provides a fantastic range of Application runtimes allowing the most suitable runtime to be selected for the app being implemented.
    • After using Transformation Advisor for quite a while, it is an indispensable tool to help modernize, specifically from WebSphere and Tomcat, towards the lightweight, fast and efficient Liberty runtime.
    • The simplicity of the licensing by wrapping many products into a single offering with a different VPC weighting.
    • Allows us to modernize our runtime from WebSphere Application Server (or ND) to WebSphere Liberty core without sacrificing our WAS licenses.
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    Cons
    HCLSoftware
    • I am not a fan of the Domino ID for authentication purposes. Some Admins appreciate this feature, but ID aging, updating and management issues are burdensome.
    • Integrations with current available software applications as a result of lower Domino adoption rates.
    • Administration tools are somewhat dated and clunky. Even with updates and patches, the Domino administrator console hasn't changed in years.
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    IBM
    • User Experience and Learning Curve
    • Integration with Third-party Tools
    • Pricing and Licensing Model
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    Usability
    HCLSoftware
    The UI is somewhat dated, and the email experience is not at all like Outlook, but we love the versatility and functionality of Domino. I would absolutely hate to give it up for anything else. We've tried to replicate some of Domino's functionality in SharePoint and found that Domino is considerably better.
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    Alternatives Considered
    HCLSoftware
    We use SharePoint, SQL and Teams but only for the things that they excel in. For example, we use teams for small team interactions (including external participants). We use teams for meetings too. We've discovered that Teams collaboration is not as full-functional as Domino and more importantly, that our members (financial services) do not trust the Open Office365 cloud. SharePoint and Team collaborative features are often blocked in our member organizations. Domino is much easier to identify and unblock at the firewall level. It's much easier to restrict collaboration to approved options in Domino.
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    IBM
    Our customer mission-critical core banking applications like Temenos T24 run on best of the breed IBM WebSphere Application Server which is java based-application server. IBM has kept up the promise of providing support, fixpack, and any update. As far as I know, at least by 2030, IBM is committed to continue with WHE which gives customers confidence in their current investments.
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    Return on Investment
    HCLSoftware
    • Domino powered applications has positively impacted our company.
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    IBM
    • We have been able to migrate apps away from the expensive WAS-ND to the more cost-effective WAS-base without throwing away our WAS-ND licenses. With a 1:4 ratio of WAS-ND to WAS-base we've been able to we've been able to save in excess of 75% on licensing charges for these apps.
    • By having a license model based on VPC ratios (1:4:8 - WAS-ND:WAS-base:Liberty core) we've been able to move away from using license pooling resulting in over-allocating (i.e. wasting) CPU cores for each license pool, to using consolidated license pools hosting a combination of WAS-ND, WAS-base and Liberty-core. This has allowed us to reduce our licensing costs accordingly.
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