Good product for Sarbox compliance, but requires time and effort.
October 15, 2012
Good product for Sarbox compliance, but requires time and effort.

Score 6 out of 10
Vetted Review
Verified User
Overall Satisfaction with Oracle CX Sales (formerly Oracle Engagement Cloud and Oracle Sales Cloud)
- I don’t see any other alternatives, that are based on Salesforce.com and that would support our complexity - complex order outputs, sophisticated configuration engine for complex business rules
- Sarbox compliance - our business rules are very complex and Sarbox makes it much more complicated as you need to track everything.
- It is configurable – just requires time from a system analyst
- I know it can work, but it takes a lot of time, effort and money
- We used to use their virtual administrator service, but experienced a lot of turnover and varying skill levels. We felt we were better off having someone in-house. It does however help to have expertise available from Big Machines. The VA service provides technical depth on their end.
- They have suffered from a lot of growth – both in turnover and burnout of people
- Rep self-service (without - for simple orders, they are now done independently by This means that reps can close deals faster.
- Streamlined Sarbox compliance - we now have a system to capture approvals in an automated, secure way and sales reps don’t need to worry about whether an approval needs to be The system tells them and it emails the approver This means we avoid audit failures.
- Some cost savings in human data entry time, to synchronize successful orders from Big Machines into Salesforce.Each one of those entries could have taken 45 A ball park saving is at least 0.5 FTE.
Apttus, Evapt and some other Salesforce.com add-ons. We felt other solutions could not handle complex order outputs. They had simplistic printer friendlies – could not do split splinter friendlies. Their configuration engines lacked the ability to support complex business rules for configuration, pricing and discounting.
We also attended their customer summit, and quizzed customers at their summit. We saw people (companies) with way more complex implementations than ours would be which gave us a level of comfort. We asked for a reference from Salesforce.com and confirmed that BigMachines were able to handle the most complex situations. Managing complexity was an important attribute to us.
We also attended their customer summit, and quizzed customers at their summit. We saw people (companies) with way more complex implementations than ours would be which gave us a level of comfort. We asked for a reference from Salesforce.com and confirmed that BigMachines were able to handle the most complex situations. Managing complexity was an important attribute to us.
Using Oracle CX Sales (formerly Oracle Engagement Cloud and Oracle Sales Cloud)
100 - Sales, services, legal/business operations, finance
0.5 - We have one Business Analyst assigned, and it's part of their role. We are however woefully understaffed. It's not enough.
We need to re-think the architecture and the simplicity of user interface for sales reps. It is configurable. It just requires time from a system analyst. We need to dedicate more resources to the maintenance of the offering.
• You need a part or full time person dedicated to changing.
• If Big Machines offered a service for this, would you subscribe for it?
- We would, but they’d need to be familiar with our business rules
- We used to use their virtual administrator service, but experienced a lot of turnover, varying skill levels. We felt we were better off having someone in-house
- It does however help to have expertise available from Big Machines. The VA service provides technical depth on their end.
We need to re-think the architecture and the simplicity of user interface for sales reps. It is configurable. It just requires time from a system analyst. We need to dedicate more resources to the maintenance of the offering.
• You need a part or full time person dedicated to changing.
• If Big Machines offered a service for this, would you subscribe for it?
- We would, but they’d need to be familiar with our business rules
- We used to use their virtual administrator service, but experienced a lot of turnover, varying skill levels. We felt we were better off having someone in-house
- It does however help to have expertise available from Big Machines. The VA service provides technical depth on their end.
- Proposal and order form creation
- Manage product catalog and pricing
- The primary reason we bought the application was supporting the two key processes above, but the application got hijacked for SARBOX purposes and promotions that we were not prepared for.
- We haven’t implemented it correctly yet but don’t believe the software is the barrier.
Evaluating Oracle CX Sales (formerly Oracle Engagement Cloud and Oracle Sales Cloud) and Competitors
We did not have a package to support this business process. We were trying to use native functionality in Salesforce.com
Oracle CX Sales (formerly Oracle Engagement Cloud and Oracle Sales Cloud) Implementation
- Vendor implemented
- Implemented in-house
Oracle CX Sales (formerly Oracle Engagement Cloud and Oracle Sales Cloud) Training
- In-person training
Oracle CX Sales (formerly Oracle Engagement Cloud and Oracle Sales Cloud) Support
Integrating Oracle CX Sales (formerly Oracle Engagement Cloud and Oracle Sales Cloud)
- Salesforce.com
- Echosign
Native integration with Salesforce.com. It works pretty well. With all the system updates we are doing to Salesforce.com, we are seeing some syncing issues. We are struggling to keep up.
The Echosign integration was pretty easy via APIs. Our Business Analyst did it herself.
The Echosign integration was pretty easy via APIs. Our Business Analyst did it herself.
Relationship with Oracle
We put in SLAs around down time and downtime at EOQ. We negotiated for this especially.