Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued) vs. HCL Notes

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
Score 9.0 out of 10
N/A
Cisco Business Edition 7000 was a collaboration and universal communication, VOIP / telephony, conferencing and messaging platform for enterprises of 1000 to 5000 employees. It has been discontinued, and is superseded by functionality found in Webex Calling.N/A
HCL Notes
Score 6.6 out of 10
N/A
Notes from HCL (formerly from IBM, acquired by HCL in late 2018) is a collaboration platform based on the Lotus platform.N/A
Pricing
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Notes
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
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Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Notes
Free Trial
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Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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Top Pros
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Features
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Notes
Project Management
Comparison of Project Management features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
7.3
10 Ratings
7% below category average
HCL Notes
6.9
10 Ratings
13% below category average
Task Management7.810 Ratings7.09 Ratings
Gantt Charts7.18 Ratings6.03 Ratings
Scheduling7.08 Ratings8.09 Ratings
Workflow Automation8.18 Ratings5.06 Ratings
Mobile Access7.510 Ratings8.010 Ratings
Search6.68 Ratings6.09 Ratings
Visual planning tools7.26 Ratings8.03 Ratings
Communication
Comparison of Communication features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
7.2
10 Ratings
11% below category average
HCL Notes
9.2
10 Ratings
14% above category average
Chat6.29 Ratings6.010 Ratings
Notifications7.49 Ratings9.010 Ratings
Discussions7.39 Ratings9.57 Ratings
Surveys8.37 Ratings9.14 Ratings
Internal knowledgebase7.49 Ratings10.06 Ratings
Integrates with GoToMeeting7.25 Ratings10.03 Ratings
Integrates with Gmail and Google Hangouts7.06 Ratings10.02 Ratings
Integrates with Outlook6.47 Ratings10.05 Ratings
File Sharing & Management
Comparison of File Sharing & Management features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
7.6
10 Ratings
7% below category average
HCL Notes
7.6
9 Ratings
7% below category average
Versioning6.68 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Video files9.76 Ratings6.05 Ratings
Audio files8.28 Ratings6.05 Ratings
Document collaboration6.69 Ratings8.08 Ratings
Access control7.48 Ratings6.08 Ratings
Advanced security features8.510 Ratings8.08 Ratings
Integrates with Google Drive8.94 Ratings10.02 Ratings
Device sync4.88 Ratings8.05 Ratings
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User Ratings
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Notes
Likelihood to Recommend
8.5
(11 ratings)
7.0
(16 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
1.7
(5 ratings)
Usability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(2 ratings)
Online Training
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Implementation Rating
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
User Testimonials
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Notes
Likelihood to Recommend
Discontinued Products
Cisco business edition are well suited for the environment where we need regular communication as they are easy to dial and has got great features. The product is well suited for both small business and large enterprises. Speed dial, good voice quality are key features of Cisco phones. They are not well suited in scenarios where we do not have LAN connectivity or internet. Sometimes we may face latency and jitteriness which is not good.
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HCL Technologies
I often work with teams from other country and regions, hence HCL Notes is a very useful platform for internal company management operations. It standardized organisational work standards in most of the offices worldwide. HCL Notes also enables chat with other team around the world that I find very helpful when initiating conversation or just want to have a quick update rather than sending emails and waiting for replies. However, HCL Notes is not very efficient in web browsing and user still need to use other internet service providers.
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Pros
Discontinued Products
  • The platform supports up to 5,000 users connected at the same time in voice and video calls.
  • Everything is virtually deployed on Cisco servers with reliability.
  • Intuitive configuration and user-friendly web interface.
  • It has several types of IP phones and is compatible with legacy and multi-brand hardware with SIP protocol.
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HCL Technologies
  • It has a really strong and robust database that's extremely scalable and holds up well to thousands of users and many different environments.
  • It has a really good enterprise-grade framework for development custom database applications
  • All of the custom database applications along with the email all have a nice uniform look and feel so their easy-to-use.
  • I really like how it's developed and supported on every client OS (Windows, OSX, Linux)! The competitors definitely do NOT offer this (M$).
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Cons
Discontinued Products
  • More cloud based services need to be added to the default service package.
  • Companies frequently require a small contact center within the UC environment. It would be nice to see a build it contact center in the box.
  • It would be nice to see some advanced AI based services (IVR voice recognition service) in the BE7K application list.
  • Call recording should be also built in.
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HCL Technologies
  • Notes' backwards compatibility sometimes gets in the way. Menus are cluttered with extraneous, outdated options and features that modern users will never use, and Preferences are often difficult to navigate for those coming from Gmail or Outlook. We have greatly simplified this via Policies, but users still find it daunting to go through all the options that are available.
  • The IBM Notes client for Windows & Mac is essentially the Eclipse Java development platform...so it is HUGE. Performance initially was very slow but IBM has done a good job of speeding things up. As IBM moves more toward cloud-delivered applications, this will not be as much of a problem.
  • Notes and Domino can be complex to manage for administrators who are more accustomed to ActiveDirectory, Group Policy, etc. Editing a notes.ini file to add a feature, or working with XML files by hand to create a SmartUpgrade kit can be daunting to those coming from more modern administrative roles.
  • Some users claim to "hate" Notes mail. While I have heard this less and less over the past 10 years, we have had 3rd party software offer plugins to Outlook and it's rare to see any for Notes.
  • The client update process should be automated more. I would like to see the Notes client update quietly and quickly more like an Adobe software update. If an update fails it should automatically try again without prompting the user over and over.
  • Notes multiple language spell checking is a downloaded add-on Java-based resource that has to be deployed in a convoluted way that is difficult for users to grasp. Therefore any foreign language spell check updates must be done individually per Notes client by IT, which is unfortunate. I would prefer to see that be a "live download" update option for users to get directly from IBM (don't make me download it and put it on my network).
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Likelihood to Renew
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
I've been in IT business and as a Programmer/Developer for 20+ years with too many programming languages experiences/back ground (C/C++/Visual Basic/Basic Program/Unix/COBOL/Java). Also with 18+ years with Lotus Notes/IBM Domino, I am still and always think Lotus Notes is the best RAD platform available!. When the time where resource is very limited and the expectation is very high and the turn around is too short, IBM Domino/Notes is the platform to use and it's the only choice available.
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Usability
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Easy to use for the user, most of the apps we developed, there is not much need for user training. Most of the times, we just do a demo to the users group and they can pick up from there.
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Support Rating
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
I've been using the production for a very long time and very happy with it. Also, all the online resources and forums for notes is very friendly and easy/quick for getting help. I found out that compared to Microsoft or Oracle or any other platforms, IBM Notes online forum is the best I have seen.
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Implementation Rating
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HCL Technologies
Implementation is easy and smooth if the requirement is well gathered/documented. Notes is a RAD platform, all projects in Notes is simple in the implementation step.
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Alternatives Considered
Discontinued Products
I've used 220s and 240s too, but it takes a lot of time to set them up, a lot of time to download the iso files, and set up of datastores. 7k saves the engineer a lot of pre-build assessment and evaluation time. Gets a lot done in a lot less time, returns are a happy engineer and a happier customer.
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HCL Technologies
Outlook has been considered for years as a replacement platform. Pricing and support staff made it prohibitive. Our long-time use of Microsoft Office productivity suite naturally led us to consider the adoption of Office365. A recent investigation told us that Azure Cloud services propel an O365 solution to the forefront. Early adopters in international divisions have paved the way for Azure and O365.
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Return on Investment
Discontinued Products
  • It has allowed for mostly smooth communication from department to department/office to office.
  • It allows for saved phone # / last contact to appear quickly.
  • It has allowed for safety warnings/announcements to emerge all across every office so that everyone within the organization is on the same page about events when they occur.
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HCL Technologies
  • Over the years, we have lost countless hours of productivity from the thousands of crashes we have experienced.
  • One benefit of IBM Notes is that it is very simple to train a new user on. Many people prefer and are familiar with Google tools, but those that use IBM Notes have very little trouble acclimating themselves.
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