Epicor CMS vs. Infor VISUAL

Through daily use of Epicor, it is apparent that at it's basest level, it favors a stock-based manufacturing model (your company has established SKUs and Production works to replenish stock levels when a KANBAN or other system triggers a re-order point). While it excels at that, ours is a custom-order industrial manufacturing model (we produce to customer specification or repeat orders), meaning there is no stocking of finished components, only the materials it takes to make them. It's taken some finesse (and the purchase of additional modules) to get to where we need to be.

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I struggle to identify a scenario where VISUAL is an appropriate solution. We used VISUAL because it was a legacy system and the cost/complexity of changeover seemed daunting. The user interface is poor as is the interconnectedness of the various screens and menus. This might be an acceptable piece of software for a continuous manufacturing environment with little variation of basic design, but we have had to write multiple add-on macros in order to get VISUAL to work effectively for us.

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• EDI Order Processing
• Serialized Inventory Tracking
• Order Processing

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• Infor Visual has a standard way of addressing business operations: sales orders, invoicing, reporting. It is easy to train operators used to using a manual or other ERP system.
• Material control is easy for production runs, R&D material lists and repairs. The process of receiving, issuing and returning material to inventory is facilitated by standard interfaces that are easily learned by material control operators.
• Engineering changes to bills of material are facilitated by the "engineering Master" flexible editing capability. The version control for the BOM's can be as detailed or vague as the process designed dictates. One item of a BOM or the entire BOM can be changed quickly and approved for production that day.

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• Too "modular"
• Each task involves opening a new window.
• Slow to process orders (despite upgraded fiber-optic internet).
• More geared towards stock-based manufacturing rather than made-to-order, without requiring additional modules.

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• VTA has been extremely unreliable. I would not recommend it. It is not customizable at all. There is no logical way to handle shift differentials which is a huge issue with a company that runs 24/7.
• If you do not have a schedule set up, they cannot clock in. This poses a problem for anyone that gets called in on a shift they don't normally work on.

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Good Technical and Customer Support during and after implementation tasks. Good Project Plan and Management support for implementation and post implementation. Financial functionality could be more comprehensive particularly with Budgeting and Cash Management. Inventory Management capability was adequate but could be more comprehensive as well. "Out of the Box" functionality was adequate but requested add-ons and enhancements seemed to be a bit pricey.

CMS takes time to learn and use the menu driven green screen. However, once you are familiar it makes for fast navigation.

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Because of use cases and easy implementation and the vertical and horizontal scaling.

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Support is getting better but can still be slow to respond.

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As we have seen the live environment and the use cases where we implement.

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Could have used more hands-on approach. There are multiple webinars and information sessions but until you actually use the system, these are not very helpful.

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Epicor CMS had a UI that was deemed more aesthetically pleasing than (subjective, naturally!) Sage, for which we attended a presentation/orientation session. Our Team felt Epicor (once outfitted with the necessary add-ons) would be better suited in the long run for longevity and ongoing support (especially considering our outgoing software was Sage).

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We unfortunately did not evaluate any other ERP software. VISUAL was a legacy system and we determined that changing systems would be too difficult, and not cost effective. We reached out to our local VISUAL rep who knew how the software functioned, but not how to apply it more appropriately to our business model, so we continued on with what we had rather than looking elsewhere.

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• Epicor has necessitated dedicated "Staging" personnel, as multi-line orders are generated as individual orders to Production/Manufacturing, meaning someone must ensure they all come together upon completion prior to shipping.
• Payroll and Accounts Payable/Receivable have noted improved integration and tracking compared to the legacy/outgoing software (Business Vision).
• Inventory tracking is vastly improved over the outgoing software, with detailed reports/tracking of remnant/off-cut materials, which benefits Material Handlers as well as the Purchasing Manager for keeping the inventory budget in line with targets.

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• I cannot comment on business impact.

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