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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Epicor Kinetic

    Score8.1 out of 10
    N/AEpicor Kinetic is a customizable, scalable, product-centric cloud ERP designed specifically for manufacturers.N/A

    VAI ERP

    Score8.4 out of 10
    Mid-Size Companies (51-1,000 employees)
    VAI ERP (or S2K Enterprise) is a cloud-based ERP solution for durable goods distributors and manufacturers, offering multiple order processing options, inventory and purchase management, warehouse management, and customer relationship management features.

    $5,100

    per month

    Pricing
    Epicor KineticVAI ERP
    Editions & Modules
    No answers on this topic
    VAI ERP
    $255.00
    per month per user
    VAI ERP
    $2,200
    one-time fee per user
    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    Epicor KineticVAI ERP
    Free Trial
    NoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    YesYes
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup fee-$50,000,250,000 one-time fee
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    Community Pulse
    Epicor KineticVAI ERP
    Considered Both Products
    Epicor Software
    No answer on this topic
    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    No answer on this topic
    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    92%
    Would buy again
    169 Answers
    100%
    Would buy again
    11 Answers
    Delivers good value for the price
    90%
    Delivers good value for the price
    126 Answers
    100%
    Delivers good value for the price
    11 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
    88%
    Happy with the feature set
    162 Answers
    100%
    Happy with the feature set
    11 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    77%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    67 Answers
    100%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    8 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
    70%
    Implementation went as expected
    93 Answers
    91%
    Implementation went as expected
    10 Answers
    Features
    Epicor KineticVAI ERP
    Payroll Management
    Comparison of Payroll Management features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    52 Ratings
    5% above category average
    VAI ERP
    -
    Ratings
    Pay calculation8.250 Ratings00 Ratings
    Benefit plan administration8.129 Ratings00 Ratings
    Direct deposit files7.537 Ratings00 Ratings
    Customization
    Comparison of Customization features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.0
    151 Ratings
    6% above category average
    VAI ERP
    6.5
    9 Ratings
    15% below category average
    API for custom integration8.3145 Ratings6.412 Ratings
    Plug-ins7.7120 Ratings6.59 Ratings
    Security
    Comparison of Security features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.4
    177 Ratings
    0% below category average
    VAI ERP
    7.1
    10 Ratings
    17% below category average
    Single sign-on capability8.8149 Ratings6.59 Ratings
    Role-based user permissions8.1174 Ratings7.813 Ratings
    Reporting & Analytics
    Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.6
    186 Ratings
    1% above category average
    VAI ERP
    6.9
    11 Ratings
    9% below category average
    Dashboards7.2178 Ratings7.111 Ratings
    Standard reports7.4183 Ratings6.514 Ratings
    Custom reports8.1174 Ratings7.213 Ratings
    General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
    Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.3
    199 Ratings
    6% below category average
    VAI ERP
    7.4
    11 Ratings
    4% below category average
    Accounts payable8.7189 Ratings7.714 Ratings
    Accounts receivable8.6184 Ratings7.714 Ratings
    Global Financial Support7.8103 Ratings7.17 Ratings
    Primary and Secondary Ledgers8.2126 Ratings7.48 Ratings
    Journals and Reconciliations7.6151 Ratings7.512 Ratings
    Configurable Accounting8.1136 Ratings7.110 Ratings
    Standardized Processes8.0159 Ratings7.611 Ratings
    Inventory Management
    Comparison of Inventory Management features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.4
    186 Ratings
    5% above category average
    VAI ERP
    7.8
    11 Ratings
    2% below category average
    Inventory tracking8.0185 Ratings7.914 Ratings
    Automatic reordering7.9111 Ratings7.711 Ratings
    Location management7.7145 Ratings7.713 Ratings
    Order Management
    Comparison of Order Management features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.3
    189 Ratings
    4% above category average
    VAI ERP
    7.7
    11 Ratings
    3% below category average
    Pricing8.4176 Ratings8.114 Ratings
    Order entry8.3187 Ratings8.114 Ratings
    Credit card processing7.688 Ratings7.06 Ratings
    Cost of goods sold8.1165 Ratings8.113 Ratings
    Order Orchestration7.8119 Ratings7.210 Ratings
    Subledger and Financial Process
    Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.5
    161 Ratings
    12% above category average
    VAI ERP
    6.8
    11 Ratings
    11% below category average
    Billing Management7.8142 Ratings7.37 Ratings
    Cash and Asset Management7.7137 Ratings7.29 Ratings
    Travel & Expense Management7.580 Ratings00 Ratings
    Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting7.981 Ratings5.54 Ratings
    Period Close8.2144 Ratings7.313 Ratings
    Project Financial Management
    Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    9.2
    19 Ratings
    19% above category average
    VAI ERP
    -
    Ratings
    Budgeting and Forecasting9.015 Ratings00 Ratings
    Project Costing8.016 Ratings00 Ratings
    Cost Capture10.017 Ratings00 Ratings
    Capital Project Management9.011 Ratings00 Ratings
    Customer Contract Compliance9.09 Ratings00 Ratings
    Project Revenue Recognition9.012 Ratings00 Ratings
    Project Execution Management
    Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.7
    74 Ratings
    9% above category average
    VAI ERP
    -
    Ratings
    Project Planning and Scheduling7.767 Ratings00 Ratings
    Task Insight for Project Managers7.154 Ratings00 Ratings
    Project Mobile Functionality7.244 Ratings00 Ratings
    Definable Resource Pools7.051 Ratings00 Ratings
    Grants Management
    Comparison of Grants Management features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    33 Ratings
    6% above category average
    VAI ERP
    -
    Ratings
    Award Lifecycle Management8.529 Ratings00 Ratings
    Procurement
    Comparison of Procurement features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.0
    138 Ratings
    12% above category average
    VAI ERP
    7.1
    9 Ratings
    0% above category average
    Bids Analyzed and Compared7.559 Ratings00 Ratings
    Contract Authoring7.456 Ratings00 Ratings
    Contract Repository7.758 Ratings00 Ratings
    Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated7.696 Ratings7.510 Ratings
    Supplier Management7.6130 Ratings6.710 Ratings
    Risk Management
    Comparison of Risk Management features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.8
    49 Ratings
    14% above category average
    VAI ERP
    -
    Ratings
    Risk Repository8.139 Ratings00 Ratings
    Control Management7.744 Ratings00 Ratings
    Control Efficiency Assessments7.440 Ratings00 Ratings
    Issue Detection8.545 Ratings00 Ratings
    Remediation and Certification7.739 Ratings00 Ratings
    Logistics
    Comparison of Logistics features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.6
    103 Ratings
    8% above category average
    VAI ERP
    6.1
    6 Ratings
    14% below category average
    Transportation Planning and Optimization7.971 Ratings00 Ratings
    Transportation Execution Management7.965 Ratings5.23 Ratings
    Trade and Customs Management7.556 Ratings5.54 Ratings
    Fulfillment Management8.086 Ratings7.06 Ratings
    Warehouse Workforce Management7.973 Ratings6.89 Ratings
    Manufacturing
    Comparison of Manufacturing features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    148 Ratings
    5% above category average
    VAI ERP
    6.9
    5 Ratings
    8% below category average
    Production Process Design7.9119 Ratings00 Ratings
    Production Management8.2139 Ratings6.56 Ratings
    Configuration Management7.6106 Ratings7.47 Ratings
    Work Execution7.6109 Ratings6.55 Ratings
    Manufacturing Costs7.7132 Ratings7.38 Ratings
    Supply Chain
    Comparison of Supply Chain features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.1
    134 Ratings
    10% above category average
    VAI ERP
    7.5
    7 Ratings
    2% above category average
    Forecasting7.1107 Ratings7.37 Ratings
    Inventory Planning7.7131 Ratings7.610 Ratings
    Performance Monitoring7.8104 Ratings7.68 Ratings
    Product Lifecycle Management
    Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Epicor Kinetic and VAI ERP
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    67 Ratings
    7% above category average
    VAI ERP
    -
    Ratings
    Proposal Management8.254 Ratings00 Ratings
    Product Master Data Management8.063 Ratings00 Ratings
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    Epicor KineticVAI ERP
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    Score9.2 out of 10
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    Score9.2 out of 10
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    Score9.2 out of 10
    Enterprises
    Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
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    User Ratings
    Epicor KineticVAI ERP
    Likelihood to Recommend
    8.1
    (222 ratings)
    8.4
    (15 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    8.8
    (2 ratings)
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    Usability
    8.1
    (182 ratings)
    7.7
    (15 ratings)
    Support Rating
    7.3
    (3 ratings)
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    8.5
    (15 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    7.6
    (14 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Epicor KineticVAI ERP
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Epicor Software
    I think it depends on the industry and complexity of the company. In our situation, we primarily use Epicor for financials, in a relatively simple manner. I don't think that Epicor is the most intuitive or simple to set up for our situation. I think Epicor is better suited for its target industry of manufacturing, where building out the multiple layers let's Epicor's strengths come to bear.
    Incentivized
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    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    VAI base package software has a lot of productive tools that can be used for a lot of different types of businesses. At first I was taken back by this saying it would just be more efficient if they would just build it more specific to a certain business type, but now stepping back i see why they don't. They are able to customize it more to my needs
    Incentivized
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    Pros
    Epicor Software
    • MRP Processing, PO Suggestion processing and maintaining Inventory/Accounting cost consistency.
    • Freighting with speed and precision allows us to ship on time with over 10 shipping stations they all run seamlessly.
    • Using ECM, we've streamlined our AP Invoicing process and increased our teams throughput at least 2x with more speed projected.
    • Using Co-Parts with Advanced Production, we've increased inventory accuracy and accounting for parts cost in a more transparent way.
    Incentivized
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    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    • Design and ease of entering data into screens.
    • Drill downs provided as you move around screens.
    • Help Text for each screen.
    • Back end programming easy to follow - good documentation.
    • Interfaces to third party software - ex. Mark Magic Forms.
    • Great Help Desk.
    • Training Videos.
    • Workflows and Triggers.
    Incentivized
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    Cons
    Epicor Software
    • In Application Studio, there are quite a few things that you just have to know in order to really get it to work right. Such as when you are updating a dataview you have to save them refresh and then go back to the wizard to get the added fields that you may have added from a BAQ.
    • When running MRP it has a tendency to stall or not finish on occasion. This is a problem as we do not get any PO Suggestions when this happens.
    Incentivized
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    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    • There will most likely be customizations made for a particular niche site to integrate with their system.
    • Product reviews, up sells, and cross sells are not built into the website functionality. Customization to the offerings would be needed.
    • Very little documentation or open source resources on instructions or development in regards to the website design and integration with the ERP.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Epicor Software
    Easy to use, reliable, known product, best product configurator, Epicor continues to offer improvements every year.
    Incentivized
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    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    S2K is easy to use, has room for growth, and serves the company's needs as a whole
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    Usability
    Epicor Software
    There is always room for improvement! I've used Great Plains ERP/MS Dynamics and Epicor my entire career. both do some things really well. Both could learn from each other. The KInetic user interface is much better than the classic windows overall. Please keep adding more functionality to the core financials!!! You need the accountants to be on your side.
    Incentivized
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    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    Often times it seems people want to learn a platform in seconds and if they can't they say it is not "user friendly." There are some platforms that can do so much that it is just going to take time to learn it all. To me that is a good thing. S2K takes time to learn but it is worth it. It can transform your organization.
    Incentivized
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    Support Rating
    Epicor Software
    If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    Great support. The staff is very knowledgeable about the platform and the capabilities within the IBM framework
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    Implementation Rating
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    If this is someone's first ERP implementation, I strongly suggest you ask for services to help implement. Ask for training on every aspect of the implementation. Make sure this is put into the overall ERP quote
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    Alternatives Considered
    Epicor Software
    Most of my histories with SAP directly. I didn't really have any negative experiences. The only thing I could say is that I always had to go to somebody else to solve the problem that I can solve first person now with Epicor Kinetic.
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    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    S2K offered a system that could be used by various departments. There were modules for accounting, customer service, order entry, and web development. The ability to customize the website integration was a plus. S2K allows the option to have products in different warehouse locations. This allowed us to better manage inventory and see in real time what the stock status was
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    Scalability
    Epicor Software
    Using the word Scalability usually implies an increase of use, or adding the use of other features. Making the product put to good/proper use for small companies without the need for full-time support, whilst integrity is maintained it is an entirely different topic. In my view, the current company may have acquired a full truck with options, where initially a small pick-up may have been better suited.
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    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    No answers on this topic
    Return on Investment
    Epicor Software
    • We have increased our lead time of orders by about a week.
    • We have increased our output of product by 10% with the same amount of staff.
    • We were able to leverage Kinetic to optimize our business while moving two facilities.
    Incentivized
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    VAI (Vormittag Associates, Inc.)
    • Sales - since all screens are real-time, S2K helps keep our salespeople up to date with customer sales and their overall sales for each period/year.
    • CSR - tracking of customer orders from point of entry to invoicing, being able to give the customer current information on their order by viewing a single screen.
    • Purchasing - with multiple locations, tracking, and having inventory in the correct location to meet the customer demands that are shipped from their home location.
    • Warehouse bin/item management makes picking orders a fast, accurate process, with the addition of order verification.
    • Accounting - being able to see real-time information across all applications. A/R, A/P, and G/L.
    Incentivized
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    ScreenShots

    Epicor Kinetic Screenshots

    Screenshot of Production ManagementScreenshot of Role-Based Analytics and Business IntelligenceScreenshot of Planning and SchedulingScreenshot of Shipping and ReceivingScreenshot of the General LedgerScreenshot of Training and Development

    VAI ERP Screenshots

    Screenshot of VAI ERP Product SuiteScreenshot of VAI Item InquiryScreenshot of VAI Mobile Warehouse