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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    ETO Software (legacy)

    Score7.2 out of 10
    Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
    ETO Software is a legacy case management solution supported by Social Solutions, acquired by Bonterra, and later sold as Bonterra ETO. The application is not the company's current case management solution.N/A

    Fin

    Score8.8 out of 10
    N/AFin is an AI Agent for customer service. It automates complex queries, improves resolution times, and delivers consistently high-quality support at scale.

    $0.99

    one-time fee per outcome

    Pricing
    ETO Software (legacy)Fin
    Editions & Modules
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    Fin with your current helpdesk
    $0.99
    one-time fee per outcome
    Fin with the Intercom helpdesk
    from $19 + $0.99 per Fin outcome
    per month per seat
    Pro add-on
    from $99
    per month
    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    ETO Software (legacy)Fin
    Free Trial
    NoYes
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    YesYes
    Entry-level Setup FeeRequiredNo setup fee
    Additional Details—90-Day Money-Back Guarantee Fin includes a 90-day money-back guarantee. Customers must use Fin in at least 250 conversations during the first 90 days of their subscription following the trial period. Customers who are not satisfied may request a refund within 90 days of starting their subscription. Eligibility: Available to high-volume customers handling more than 250,000 conversations per month in North America and Europe.
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    Community Pulse
    ETO Software (legacy)Fin
    Considered Both Products
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    Fin
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    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
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    99%
    Would buy again
    424 Answers
    Delivers good value for the price
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    97%
    Delivers good value for the price
    341 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
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    98%
    Happy with the feature set
    417 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
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    94%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    230 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
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    93%
    Implementation went as expected
    286 Answers
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    Score9.2 out of 10
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    Score9.2 out of 10
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    User Ratings
    ETO Software (legacy)Fin
    Likelihood to Recommend
    7.0
    (44 ratings)
    8.9
    (490 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    1.0
    (6 ratings)
    10.0
    (21 ratings)
    Usability
    1.0
    (5 ratings)
    8.3
    (398 ratings)
    Availability
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    Performance
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    Support Rating
    4.0
    (5 ratings)
    6.4
    (11 ratings)
    Online Training
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    7.4
    (2 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    5.1
    (2 ratings)
    6.6
    (5 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    5.5
    (1 ratings)
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    6.4
    (1 ratings)
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    Vendor pre-sale
    6.4
    (1 ratings)
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    User Testimonials
    ETO Software (legacy)Fin
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Discontinued Products
    ETO Social Solutions should be avoided until they start caring about the problems generated by their software. In regards specifically to the ARMS suite utilized by the entire state of California, until the ETO software learns how to speak with SOMS, and unless it can be customized by knowledgeable people who consult with front-line users. It is not appropriate to provide the state legislature with bad data. I have 6 years of experience with it and I have multiple sources of agreement from fellow users throughout the state.
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    Fin
    I can't think of anything off the top of my head regarding less appropriate. However, this product is very customizable. I think with some improvement in reporting it could be better, however, I would recommend due to these types of things. I love the knowledge base and creating those help centers. I would say that it is fairly easy to set up, but once you set it up, not really knowing all the things, it's hard to go back and change, so it would be nice to have an overall idea of guidance prior to the original setup that can just be improved over time.
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    Pros
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    • ETO's customization allows for the use of so many different and unique applications.
    • The ability to build extremely customized reports also allows us to get very detail oriented results or very broad building wide stats.
    • The additional added features such as workflow, referrals, and ETO Engage are useful in their own way and add more ways to better track and record data while simplifying some end-user processes.
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    Fin
    • The AI agent can answer our users' questions accurately based on the information available in our Help Center.
    • Ability to set up workflows and procedures helps our team automate repetitive tasks.
    • The inbox layout is clean and easy to navigate, and we can set views to suit our preferences.
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    Cons
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    • The user interface is not intuitive and exceptionally difficult for non-tech savvy people to learn.
    • The system is not as customizable as we were led to believe at the initial purchase.
    • The system does not interface well with other systems. Organizationally we are moving towards data integration, and we will likely replace ETO because of this limitation.
    • Considering the limitations of the system, the cost is quite high. We've seen only marginal benefits of this system over pen and paper, and the ROI is not promising.
    • The initial build process was very frustrating. We didn't understand what the developer was billing us for. Something like simple touchpoint forms was billed for more hours than it would seem to require.
    • A system like this should be both fully mobile compatible and have offline functionality.
    • We would benefit from more nuanced security settings.
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    Fin
    • I wish I could pull reports on the conversations that have been closed.
    • I wish I could tag fin categories in addition to our live help desk conversations so I can get a good read on the types of questions users are asking.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Discontinued Products
    Social Solutions has been great for our organization. It has allowed us to not only report on data, but to dive into it to see trends and give snapshots of the current status of our neighbors. Social Solutions has been helpful in getting us to see additional ways we can use our data and ways that it is easier for front line staff to use this tool
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    Fin
    We have been and will be continuing our journey with Intercom and nothing too concerning has happened that I have experienced or heard of that has us on the edge yet. If it ever happens it will be something along the lines of "Outgrowing" the use of need of the platform.
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    Usability
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    As a technically savvy person with experience learning new database software systems I find ETO relatively straightforward now that I've been trained in it's use. However, many of our staff are less technically savvy and the learning curve for ETO can be grueling for many, who require frequent troubleshooting and support from me. Additionally, there are small quality of life improvements that would increase usability even for me - such as allowing multiple tabs to be open simultaneously or being able to use the browser's "back" and "forward" buttons.
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    Fin
    Intuitive is a very accurate descriptor. Features do not seem to be hidden by poor UI. Things are usually where you would expect them to be, and the UI has been designed to make it pleasant to work within the platform. The platform also scales really well. Both small and large organizations can achieve a great return on investment by using it.
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    Reliability and Availability
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    Routine maintenance is announced with plenty of lead time, and the few times I've been unable to log in to the system properly a simple refresh was all that was required to fix.
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    Fin
    always there
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    Performance
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    Mostly really strong now, although I understand that for some years before switching their hosting service to AWS performance was a real issue with ETO and we had frequent problems with pages timing out or other glitches stemming from performance issues. With AWS that is mostly a thing of the past, although it is still a major issue with the reporting tool which is unable to run reports on the entire database due to performance limitations, instead requiring admins to define universes prior to running queries.
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    Fin
    Fin is super quick and top notch.
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    Support Rating
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    We love the first tier customer support folks! They're friendly, helpful, and knowledgeable within the scope of their position. The experiences we've had with their supervisors have also been mostly good and again they seem to be doing what they can within the scope of their positions. This is what prevents me from selecting 1. Unfortunately, none of these wonderful folks can offer real solutions when things are actually broken. They verify there's a problem and send it to the black hole called "the developers". After that, we don't hear anything useful and we figure out how to live with/work around the problem ourselves. (Requests for updates typically get "still with the developer" responses.) This is highly frustrating given that most of our issues are basic system issues (functionality that worked then broke after an update by Social Solutions, servers not syncing, report universes not flattening automatically, etc.). All we want is for the system to work as designed and to be fixed in a timely fashion when it doesn't. Apparently, that's too much to ask. (And no, we don't expect it to happen instantly, programming and quality control checks obviously take time.)
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    Fin
    I can get help by asking Fin questions about itself. It answers accurately, citing its own Help Center resources with visuals. It can reason and dialogue well. But when it comes to getting human support for Fin, it is not as quick. It can sometimes take a few days. They are polite and well-meaning. Some things aren't their fault (product limitations), but there was one occasion where something took a long time to resolve with lots of back and forth but it was I who found out the error in the end that they missed, so they didn't really help resolve it.
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    Online Training
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    Really good trainer and exhaustive curriculum covered, but ETO is a complex enough system that you don't *really* know how to use it until you've been in the trenches for a few weeks. For instance, I took a Report Writing training and emerged with some fluency in the reports interface and a vague understanding of the process, but immediately encountered a legion of instance-specific idiosyncrasies that would have been totally impossible to address in a webinar training for a dozen folks from different orgs working in different instances.
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    Fin
    It was great. We were able to walk through step by step and get our questions answered along the way.
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    Implementation Rating
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    Hard to say, as I was not with the agency at the time. However, based on our use of the software ~5years later I can say that there were no catastrophic design choices made during implementation that have become unduly burdensome as we've scaled up.
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    Fin
    The implementation was surprisingly easy but we are having to adapt from our old process to work well with Intercom.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Discontinued Products
    When we made our decision several years ago Social Solutions had just acquired Apricot. At that time it was recommended to use ETO based off our revenue stream. However, it seems like Social Solutions has put in a lot more time and effort into Apricot over ETO and it seems more modern and user friendly. I think it is worth a second look once our contract expires
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    Fin
    Fin far surpasses these other options in platform features and capabilities. Fin allows for side-by-side use by both the Marketing and Support teams, while none of the other similar products did that well. Most platforms are designed for one or the other, not both.
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    Scalability
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    The core product scales well, and we've grown quite a bit as an agency during our use of ETO. However, there are some real pain points particularly around creating new programs and managing report universes that require extensive offline checklist resources and a full-spectrum understanding of how changing settings in one part of ETO can have downstream impact in other areas. This can introduce a "chilling" effect on proposed changes to the system, where there is strong incentive to leave things as-is to avoid unforeseen consequences.
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    Fin
    The product is very scalable and has helped us scale our user base and onboard 10x the users in just one month. We couldn't have done it without Fin
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    Return on Investment
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    • I would say that at this point the overall ROI has been negative as we aren't getting much more out of our data by the switch we made to ETO, but the cost is much higher. I anticipate that will change as we get better at using ETO.
    • Most users that have switched to ETO in our organization prefer it to what they were using before and some are more appreciative of the value they can get from the data.
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    Fin
    • New role opportunities — Using the “Fin-first” approach has reduced the workload for our Tier 1 team, giving them more time to focus on their own career growth. It’s also opened the door to a dedicated, AI-focused role, where a team member regularly reviews Fin’s answers and makes updates to help it perform even better.
    • Enabling Fin has also reduced our response time and allowed us to meet SLA's.
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    Fin Screenshots

    Screenshot of Fin handling a complex query. Fin can securely retrieve data and take action in external systems like Shopify, Stripe, and Salesforce.Screenshot of Fin works across phone, email, chat, Slack, and more so every customer receives accurate, personalized responses, wherever they reach out.Screenshot of Procedures to train Fin to handle queries with multiple steps, business logic and third-party systems from start to finish. Natural language instructions can be combined with deterministic controls to create powerful Procedures that follow exact rules when needed.Screenshot of AI powered Insights and QA products, proactively showing you dominant and emergent trends and topics in your customer experience, as well as one-click recommendations to set live and immediately improve Fin's performance.Screenshot of Fin Operator. It spots problems, finds opportunities to improve, and acts on them, for example tuning Fin, keeping knowledge current, and scaling automation as business needs changes.Screenshot of the interface to customize Fin's tone of voice, teach it support knowledge and policies, and configure how it handles complex tasks in over 45 languages.