F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense vs. VMware AppDefense (discontinued)

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense
Score 8.3 out of 10
N/A
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense (formerly Shape Defense, acquired January 2020) provides security to protect a website from bots, fake users, and unauthorized transactions, preventing large scale fraud and eroded user experiences. Companies get visibility, detection and mitigation outcomes to reduce fraud and cloud hosting, bandwidth and compute costs, improve user experiences, and optimize their business based on real human traffic.N/A
VMware AppDefense (discontinued)
Score 4.0 out of 10
N/A
VMware AppDefense was a hypervisor-native workload protection platform for enterprise virtualization and security teams, used to deliver a secure virtual infrastructure and simplify micro-segmentation planning by providing application visibility, reputation scoring, and security. The product is discontinued, and no longer available.N/A
Pricing
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseVMware AppDefense (discontinued)
Editions & Modules
Enterprise
Custom Quote
per year
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseVMware AppDefense (discontinued)
Free Trial
YesYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesYes
Entry-level Setup FeeOptionalOptional
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
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Small Businesses
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Score 8.6 out of 10
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Score 8.6 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
Veracode
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Score 9.2 out of 10
Veracode
Veracode
Score 9.2 out of 10
Enterprises
Veracode
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Score 9.2 out of 10
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Score 9.2 out of 10
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User Ratings
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseVMware AppDefense (discontinued)
Likelihood to Recommend
8.2
(33 ratings)
8.4
(7 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
8.2
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
8.3
(33 ratings)
8.5
(7 ratings)
Implementation Rating
7.8
(24 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseVMware AppDefense (discontinued)
Likelihood to Recommend
F5
I'd strongly recommend it, but with a few caveats depending on how mature the team is with behavioral based security tools. One of our fintech clients was getting hit with low volume, widely spread login attempts, below our rate limiting thresholds. F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense was able to flag abnormal input timings, inconsistent device fingerprinting and high entropy in field population behavior. You can only imagine the wave of downstream account lockouts this saved the client. On the other end we had a client with a real time trading platform using Graphql over websockets. F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense wasn't able to tap into that stream natively. we had to reverse engineer a proxy layer to inspect events. It worked but it was clunky and not officially supported
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Discontinued Products
Being a VMware product, AppDefense has the advantage of compatibility with all of the VMware product feature updates and patches ( ESXi, NSX, vCenter, etc.). Paired with Carbon Black, it's resource overhead is well-tuned compared to traditional antivirus products.
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Pros
F5
  • Quickly helps mitigate the retooling and newer advanced bot attacks
  • Excellent customer service from our f5 bot Defense team/partners
  • Easy to do Traffic Analysis/False Positive reviews with their dashboard of data
  • Our F5 Security/Solutions Architect and TAM is always there for us whenever we need them
  • First class service by the F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseSOC, the Tactics Team, the F5 Testing person that helps us, the mobile SDK experts, the Client-Side Signals experts and F5 management
  • Industry best Threat Briefings
  • Not only is F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense great at stopping the advanced bot attacks, they also have protection against any tampering or replay attacks.
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Discontinued Products
  • I think that the AppDefense approach is clever and sets it apart from other products. Having a baseline of normal behavior that I can see is something I haven't seen in another product before.
  • AppDefense doesn't overload my systems with performance draining agents.
  • AppDefense integrates with VMWare products I have or plan to purchase.
  • Access to AppDefense support has been better than any other VMWare products.
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Cons
F5
  • On a technical side, we've had a lot of deployment issues. This is not a one-sprint solution.
  • We ran into undocumented failure modes and had to rely on L2 and L3 customer support, delaying troubleshooting significantly [in our experience].
  • Accurate log ingestion is a larger challenge than one would want in a security tool.
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Discontinued Products
  • PowerShell functionality.
  • Sorting results in some areas are not applicable.
  • Email alerting through AppDefense Manager does not exist, but support has said it is a feature to come.
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Likelihood to Renew
F5
We are more likely than not, to renew it. It saved us from a really huge data breach 4 months ago. It has earned its shower so far
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Support Rating
F5
Official support can sometimes take time to reach the right people. However, once you are in contact with the appropriate experts, the support is excellent, as F5 staff are true specialists. On the other hand, we always receive prompt assistance from our local sales team, who typically help us connect with the right people quickly.
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Discontinued Products
The product is still quite new, and there seems to be a lack of technical information available for both the E.U. and support staff. That being said, the support staff that I have worked with have always been very knowledgeable and ensure that they see a ticket through to completion.
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Implementation Rating
F5
Implementation of Distributed Cloud is accomplished a few different ways, it would pay to meet with the F5 team and map out your implementation prior to acquisition to make sure you Infrastructure and Operations teams are aligned to the approach and requirements.
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Discontinued Products
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Alternatives Considered
F5
Clodflare bot management was our other obvious option for us. We tested it on a staging version of our RFQ platform. It was great for broad traffic filtering but had a hard time with nuanced differences between real subcontractors and low volume bots mimickingt human input whereas that's where F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense thrived
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Discontinued Products
We have several security applications, but none exactly like VMware AppDefense. That is one of the reasons I like it, as it seems to take a different angle on monitoring and protection. The other apps monitor different things, but one thing AppDefense seems to have over them is a streamlined interface and not a lot of false positives.
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Return on Investment
F5
  • Prior to F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense, we were averaging 12k plus credential stuffing attempts weekly across client portals That number fell down to less than a thousand in just 4 weeks
  • Over 90 percent of scraping and unauthorized price harvesting blocked
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Discontinued Products
  • As with everything now, automation is key. AppDefense effectively monitors the activity on all our VMs, freeing administrators to work on more projects
  • Makes it much easier to diagnose issues when system are not running as intended
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