B2W Estimate vs. 4Clicks for Federal

We are long-term users of the B2W system. We believe it is the best choice for paving contractors. It is easy to learn and continues to offer even deeper ability as estimating prowess grows. The system allows us to update quotes that were given in the past and to stay on top of our costs as changes occur, so our data is up to date and accurate. Know your costs and you can make money!

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If you are considering purchasing this (very expensive) software, there is a 100% chance you are doing so because you have been awarded a Government contract that dictates you use 4Clicks Project Estimator. There are plenty of easier to use estimating packages out in the world, but you can't use any of them if you have a contract that requires 4Clicks.

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• Allows management to update costs for each individual item, equipment, labor, PR taxes, benefits, materials, etc.
• Allows management to see how aggressive estimators have built an estimate to evaluate risk.
• Allows monthly changes in fuel prices and liquid asphalt to quickly update the system for all.
• Allows management to override margins for overhead and profit to match backlog and need for work versus budget.

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• The estimates it produces are simple and easy to follow. The formatting is good.
• The tech support provided is very attentive.

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• We request changes to the software as issues crop up and the B2W process changes as needed.
• A time-out function should be added to knock dormant users offline and allow other users access to the limited number of licenses the company owns.

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• The software feels 20 years old. It has not kept up with modern times, and practically functions like an old DOS program.
• Clunky interface, arcane commands.
• Even their training info focuses on hotkeys like this is 1995. Even though I am of an age to remember computers in 1995, the younger generations of managers/estimators are not. It is time to bring the software into the new century!

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WinEst uses much the same database (RS Means/Gordion type) and has a similar interface. It is a bit cheaper.

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• We make money year after year by having accurate quotes and costs basis.
• We have easily accessible records to look in the past at jobs won or lost.

Incentivized

• As stated before, if you are buying this software, it is because you have a contract forcing you to. While it does work, it is clunky, awkward, and very expensive.
• The price of the software and databases has always been high, but with the fairly recent acquisition of 4Clicks by Gordion (who also bought RS Means for their databases), there is literally no competition. Prices will continue to be very high, with no check on how high they can go.
• Again, can't fault 4Clicks tech support, as I think it is the best in the industry. They know their product and they respond to issues immediately. Considering what we spend a year for this product, however, you would expect nothing less.

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