Convio Luminate (discontinued) vs. NGP VAN

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Convio Luminate (discontinued)
Score 6.0 out of 10
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Convio Luminate was a nonprofit CRM option acquired by Blackbaud that is currently discontinued, and no longer available.N/A
NGP VAN
Score 8.1 out of 10
N/A
A suite of organizing, fundraising, and digital tools used by labor unions, nonprofits, political parties, presidential campaigns, and state and local campaigns. NGP VAN is a Bonterra business unit.N/A
Pricing
Convio Luminate (discontinued)NGP VAN
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Convio Luminate (discontinued)NGP VAN
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeOptional
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Convio Luminate (discontinued)NGP VAN
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Convio Luminate (discontinued)NGP VAN
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Score 9.5 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
Bloomerang CRM
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Score 9.1 out of 10
OneCause
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Score 8.8 out of 10
Enterprises
Blackbaud Enterprise Fundraising CRM
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Score 7.6 out of 10
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User Ratings
Convio Luminate (discontinued)NGP VAN
Likelihood to Recommend
5.0
(2 ratings)
8.7
(5 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
9.1
(1 ratings)
Usability
-
(0 ratings)
6.4
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
1.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
In-Person Training
-
(0 ratings)
7.3
(1 ratings)
User Testimonials
Convio Luminate (discontinued)NGP VAN
Likelihood to Recommend
Discontinued Products
It does great with donor cultivation processes and the workflow feature is top-notch for automating processes. Where it does a less than stellar job is getting it to work more specifically for your organization. Often times building that kind of special feature costs a significant time and money investment and it is something that is hard to transfer when it's time to move to a new database.
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Bonterra
Well suited when we have to run lists of those already canvassed or need to be canvassed. Not Well suited when the phone bank and MiniVAN does not work together. As it could cause someone to canvass someone who has just been phone banked or vice versa. Also, need to better provide emailing options.
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Pros
Discontinued Products
  • Luminate takes some of the legwork out of setting up NSPS for nonprofit use of salesforce.
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Bonterra
  • Detailed searches
  • Storing data
  • Creating walk packets
  • Creating functional, easy to use phone banks
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Cons
Discontinued Products
  • Big Investment
  • It's a sales program with a donation management overlay so it has some troubles around reporting.
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Bonterra
  • Accurate data depends upon people updating in a timely manner.
  • Sometimes I’ve had trouble putting lists into miniVAN, maybe a training need
  • In the past, had issues getting right permissions from state Dems to access NGP VAN
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Likelihood to Renew
Discontinued Products
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Bonterra
As long as I’m an active Democratic volunteer I will use it, unless the Dems quit using it. I enjoy using NGP VAN and discovering more capabilities as I spend more time with it.
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Usability
Discontinued Products
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Bonterra
I think you have to have understanding of computer basics to master NGP VAN. I doubt a non-computer person, or someone who is hesitant about technology could do much with NGP VAN. It helps if you’re sort of a computer nerd (as I am, despite my old age) because then you don’t worry about experimenting.
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Support Rating
Discontinued Products
Support for the product is horrible; often support will have you bouncing between Blackbaud support and Salesforce support and it's very rare either are able to find simple solutions. Most of the time the solutions almost always cost money and hiring consultants which, for a smaller organization, means not being able to achieve proper solutions.
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Bonterra
No answers on this topic
In-Person Training
Discontinued Products
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Bonterra
I can hardly remember since it was years ago. Various individuals have also coached me since then. If I can actually play around with it myself that’s the best way to increase my proficiency.
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Alternatives Considered
Discontinued Products
Of the databases I have used, Luminate CRM is my least favorite. However, it is powerful and large enough to function adequately for a large nonprofit; I couldn't say the same for some of Blackbaud's smaller products. We definitely need the full Luminate Suite (Luminate Online, Team Raiser, etc.,) to make it work, though - and we're constantly disappointed by the clumsiness of the way all the pieces interact.
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Bonterra
I have no other experience.
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Return on Investment
Discontinued Products
  • Uncertain; we have not collected data on this. Our Luminate package is quite expensive, though.
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Bonterra
  • helped with campaign
  • saved records for the following year
  • assisted all involved with campaigns
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