Epicor CMS vs. Epicor Kinetic

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor CMS
Score 7.2 out of 10
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Epicor Kinetic
Score 8.0 out of 10
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Epicor Kinetic is a customizable, scalable, product-centric cloud ERP designed specifically for manufacturers.N/A
Pricing
Epicor CMSEpicor Kinetic
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor CMSEpicor Kinetic
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoYes
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Epicor CMSEpicor Kinetic
Features
Epicor CMSEpicor Kinetic
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
10.0
1 Ratings
29% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
52 Ratings
6% above category average
Pay calculation10.01 Ratings8.250 Ratings
Benefit plan administration10.01 Ratings8.129 Ratings
Direct deposit files10.01 Ratings7.537 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
9.0
2 Ratings
18% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
8.0
151 Ratings
6% above category average
API for custom integration10.02 Ratings8.3145 Ratings
Plug-ins8.02 Ratings7.7120 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
10.0
2 Ratings
17% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
8.4
177 Ratings
0% below category average
Single sign-on capability10.02 Ratings8.8149 Ratings
Role-based user permissions10.02 Ratings8.1174 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
9.3
2 Ratings
22% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
186 Ratings
2% above category average
Dashboards10.01 Ratings7.2178 Ratings
Standard reports9.02 Ratings7.4183 Ratings
Custom reports9.02 Ratings8.1174 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
9.5
2 Ratings
21% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
7.3
199 Ratings
5% below category average
Accounts payable10.02 Ratings8.7189 Ratings
Accounts receivable10.02 Ratings8.6184 Ratings
Global Financial Support8.01 Ratings7.8103 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers10.02 Ratings8.2126 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations9.02 Ratings7.6151 Ratings
Configurable Accounting10.02 Ratings8.1136 Ratings
Standardized Processes10.02 Ratings8.0159 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
10.0
2 Ratings
22% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
8.4
186 Ratings
5% above category average
Inventory tracking10.02 Ratings8.0185 Ratings
Automatic reordering10.02 Ratings7.9111 Ratings
Location management10.02 Ratings7.7145 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
8.4
2 Ratings
6% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
8.3
189 Ratings
5% above category average
Pricing10.02 Ratings8.4176 Ratings
Order entry8.02 Ratings8.3187 Ratings
Credit card processing10.01 Ratings7.688 Ratings
Cost of goods sold10.02 Ratings8.1165 Ratings
Order Orchestration8.02 Ratings7.8119 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
9.0
2 Ratings
18% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
8.5
161 Ratings
12% above category average
Billing Management10.02 Ratings7.8142 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management10.02 Ratings7.7137 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management10.01 Ratings7.580 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting10.02 Ratings7.981 Ratings
Period Close10.02 Ratings8.2144 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
7.4
1 Ratings
2% below category average
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
19 Ratings
19% above category average
Budgeting and Forecasting5.01 Ratings9.015 Ratings
Project Costing7.01 Ratings8.016 Ratings
Cost Capture10.01 Ratings10.017 Ratings
Capital Project Management8.01 Ratings9.011 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance5.01 Ratings9.09 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition8.01 Ratings9.012 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
10.0
1 Ratings
34% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
7.7
74 Ratings
8% above category average
Project Planning and Scheduling10.01 Ratings7.767 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers10.01 Ratings7.154 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality10.01 Ratings7.244 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools10.01 Ratings7.051 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
8.8
2 Ratings
22% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
8.0
138 Ratings
12% above category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared10.02 Ratings7.559 Ratings
Contract Authoring10.01 Ratings7.456 Ratings
Contract Repository10.01 Ratings7.758 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated10.02 Ratings7.696 Ratings
Supplier Management10.02 Ratings7.6130 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
7.3
1 Ratings
9% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
7.8
49 Ratings
15% above category average
Control Management7.01 Ratings7.744 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments7.01 Ratings7.440 Ratings
Issue Detection7.01 Ratings8.545 Ratings
Risk Repository00 Ratings8.139 Ratings
Remediation and Certification00 Ratings7.739 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
8.8
1 Ratings
24% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
103 Ratings
9% above category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization9.01 Ratings7.971 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management9.01 Ratings7.965 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management8.01 Ratings7.556 Ratings
Fulfillment Management9.01 Ratings8.086 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management8.01 Ratings7.973 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
8.7
2 Ratings
16% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
148 Ratings
6% above category average
Production Process Design10.02 Ratings7.9119 Ratings
Production Management8.02 Ratings8.2139 Ratings
Configuration Management7.02 Ratings7.6106 Ratings
Work Execution8.02 Ratings7.6109 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs9.02 Ratings7.7132 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
10.0
2 Ratings
31% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
8.1
134 Ratings
11% above category average
Forecasting10.02 Ratings7.1107 Ratings
Inventory Planning10.02 Ratings7.7131 Ratings
Performance Monitoring10.02 Ratings7.8104 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
8.1
1 Ratings
10% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
67 Ratings
7% above category average
Proposal Management8.01 Ratings8.254 Ratings
Product Master Data Management8.01 Ratings8.063 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor CMS
9.3
1 Ratings
22% above category average
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
33 Ratings
6% above category average
Award Lifecycle Management00 Ratings8.529 Ratings
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User Ratings
Epicor CMSEpicor Kinetic
Likelihood to Recommend
7.0
(2 ratings)
8.1
(222 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
8.8
(2 ratings)
Usability
8.0
(2 ratings)
8.1
(182 ratings)
Support Rating
7.0
(1 ratings)
7.3
(3 ratings)
Implementation Rating
-
(0 ratings)
7.3
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
(0 ratings)
8.5
(15 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
-
(0 ratings)
7.6
(14 ratings)
User Testimonials
Epicor CMSEpicor Kinetic
Likelihood to Recommend
Epicor Software
Through daily use of Epicor, it is apparent that at it's basest level, it favors a stock-based manufacturing model (your company has established SKUs and Production works to replenish stock levels when a KANBAN or other system triggers a re-order point). While it excels at that, ours is a custom-order industrial manufacturing model (we produce to customer specification or repeat orders), meaning there is no stocking of finished components, only the materials it takes to make them. It's taken some finesse (and the purchase of additional modules) to get to where we need to be.
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Epicor Software
I think it depends on the industry and complexity of the company. In our situation, we primarily use Epicor for financials, in a relatively simple manner. I don't think that Epicor is the most intuitive or simple to set up for our situation. I think Epicor is better suited for its target industry of manufacturing, where building out the multiple layers let's Epicor's strengths come to bear.
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Pros
Epicor Software
  • EDI Order Processing
  • Serialized Inventory Tracking
  • Order Processing
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Epicor Software
  • MRP Processing, PO Suggestion processing and maintaining Inventory/Accounting cost consistency.
  • Freighting with speed and precision allows us to ship on time with over 10 shipping stations they all run seamlessly.
  • Using ECM, we've streamlined our AP Invoicing process and increased our teams throughput at least 2x with more speed projected.
  • Using Co-Parts with Advanced Production, we've increased inventory accuracy and accounting for parts cost in a more transparent way.
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Cons
Epicor Software
  • Too "modular"
  • Each task involves opening a new window.
  • Slow to process orders (despite upgraded fiber-optic internet).
  • More geared towards stock-based manufacturing rather than made-to-order, without requiring additional modules.
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Epicor Software
  • In Application Studio, there are quite a few things that you just have to know in order to really get it to work right. Such as when you are updating a dataview you have to save them refresh and then go back to the wizard to get the added fields that you may have added from a BAQ.
  • When running MRP it has a tendency to stall or not finish on occasion. This is a problem as we do not get any PO Suggestions when this happens.
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Likelihood to Renew
Epicor Software
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Epicor Software
Easy to use, reliable, known product, best product configurator, Epicor continues to offer improvements every year.
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Usability
Epicor Software
CMS takes time to learn and use the menu driven green screen. However, once you are familiar it makes for fast navigation.
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Epicor Software
There is always room for improvement! I've used Great Plains ERP/MS Dynamics and Epicor my entire career. both do some things really well. Both could learn from each other. The KInetic user interface is much better than the classic windows overall. Please keep adding more functionality to the core financials!!! You need the accountants to be on your side.
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Support Rating
Epicor Software
Support is getting better but can still be slow to respond.
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Epicor Software
If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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Alternatives Considered
Epicor Software
Epicor CMS had a UI that was deemed more aesthetically pleasing than (subjective, naturally!) Sage, for which we attended a presentation/orientation session. Our Team felt Epicor (once outfitted with the necessary add-ons) would be better suited in the long run for longevity and ongoing support (especially considering our outgoing software was Sage).
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Epicor Software
Most of my histories with SAP directly. I didn't really have any negative experiences. The only thing I could say is that I always had to go to somebody else to solve the problem that I can solve first person now with Epicor Kinetic.
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Scalability
Epicor Software
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Epicor Software
Using the word Scalability usually implies an increase of use, or adding the use of other features. Making the product put to good/proper use for small companies without the need for full-time support, whilst integrity is maintained it is an entirely different topic. In my view, the current company may have acquired a full truck with options, where initially a small pick-up may have been better suited.
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Return on Investment
Epicor Software
  • Epicor has necessitated dedicated "Staging" personnel, as multi-line orders are generated as individual orders to Production/Manufacturing, meaning someone must ensure they all come together upon completion prior to shipping.
  • Payroll and Accounts Payable/Receivable have noted improved integration and tracking compared to the legacy/outgoing software (Business Vision).
  • Inventory tracking is vastly improved over the outgoing software, with detailed reports/tracking of remnant/off-cut materials, which benefits Material Handlers as well as the Purchasing Manager for keeping the inventory budget in line with targets.
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  • We have increased our lead time of orders by about a week.
  • We have increased our output of product by 10% with the same amount of staff.
  • We were able to leverage Kinetic to optimize our business while moving two facilities.
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ScreenShots

Epicor Kinetic Screenshots

Screenshot of Production ManagementScreenshot of Role-Based Analytics and Business IntelligenceScreenshot of Planning and SchedulingScreenshot of Shipping and ReceivingScreenshot of the General LedgerScreenshot of Training and Development