Epicor Kinetic vs. Oracle Hyperion (legacy)

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor Kinetic
Score 7.6 out of 10
N/A
Epicor Kinetic is a customizable, scalable, product-centric cloud ERP designed specifically for manufacturers.N/A
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
Score 7.5 out of 10
N/A
Oracle's Corporate Performance Management suite was acquired from Hyperion in 2007. Hyperion customers are encouraged to migrate to Oracle Fusion Cloud EPM.N/A
Pricing
Epicor KineticOracle Hyperion (legacy)
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor KineticOracle Hyperion (legacy)
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Epicor KineticOracle Hyperion (legacy)
Features
Epicor KineticOracle Hyperion (legacy)
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
6.6
14 Ratings
10% below category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Pay calculation8.214 Ratings00 Ratings
Benefit plan administration7.79 Ratings00 Ratings
Direct deposit files1.810 Ratings00 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.6
28 Ratings
14% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
API for custom integration8.926 Ratings00 Ratings
Plug-ins8.223 Ratings00 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.0
39 Ratings
8% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Single sign-on capability9.032 Ratings00 Ratings
Role-based user permissions8.939 Ratings00 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.0
39 Ratings
21% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Dashboards9.038 Ratings00 Ratings
Standard reports9.038 Ratings00 Ratings
Custom reports8.934 Ratings00 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
38 Ratings
1% below category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Accounts payable9.035 Ratings00 Ratings
Accounts receivable9.037 Ratings00 Ratings
Global Financial Support9.016 Ratings00 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers9.018 Ratings00 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations9.020 Ratings00 Ratings
Configurable Accounting9.019 Ratings00 Ratings
Standardized Processes9.020 Ratings00 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
38 Ratings
16% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Inventory tracking9.037 Ratings00 Ratings
Automatic reordering9.122 Ratings00 Ratings
Location management8.930 Ratings00 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
6.7
41 Ratings
15% below category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Pricing9.038 Ratings00 Ratings
Order entry8.941 Ratings00 Ratings
Credit card processing1.020 Ratings00 Ratings
Cost of goods sold9.040 Ratings00 Ratings
Order Orchestration1.017 Ratings00 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.5
24 Ratings
13% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Billing Management9.019 Ratings00 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management9.020 Ratings00 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management5.713 Ratings00 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting8.914 Ratings00 Ratings
Period Close5.519 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
19 Ratings
19% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Budgeting and Forecasting9.015 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Costing8.016 Ratings00 Ratings
Cost Capture10.017 Ratings00 Ratings
Capital Project Management9.011 Ratings00 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance9.09 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition9.012 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.7
15 Ratings
10% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Project Planning and Scheduling8.213 Ratings00 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers7.38 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality6.46 Ratings00 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools8.27 Ratings00 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.3
8 Ratings
1% below category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Award Lifecycle Management6.44 Ratings00 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
15 Ratings
13% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Bids Analyzed and Compared7.36 Ratings00 Ratings
Contract Authoring9.04 Ratings00 Ratings
Contract Repository4.56 Ratings00 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated6.19 Ratings00 Ratings
Supplier Management9.012 Ratings00 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
4 Ratings
15% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Risk Repository9.13 Ratings00 Ratings
Control Management7.34 Ratings00 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments8.23 Ratings00 Ratings
Issue Detection3.63 Ratings00 Ratings
Remediation and Certification9.13 Ratings00 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.4
12 Ratings
9% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Transportation Planning and Optimization7.36 Ratings00 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management5.55 Ratings00 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management7.35 Ratings00 Ratings
Fulfillment Management8.29 Ratings00 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management8.27 Ratings00 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.6
22 Ratings
15% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Production Process Design8.917 Ratings00 Ratings
Production Management9.021 Ratings00 Ratings
Configuration Management8.915 Ratings00 Ratings
Work Execution9.017 Ratings00 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs8.921 Ratings00 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
23 Ratings
25% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Forecasting9.019 Ratings00 Ratings
Inventory Planning8.922 Ratings00 Ratings
Performance Monitoring9.017 Ratings00 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.8
8 Ratings
8% above category average
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
-
Ratings
Proposal Management8.25 Ratings00 Ratings
Product Master Data Management7.36 Ratings00 Ratings
Budgeting, Planning, and Forecasting
Comparison of Budgeting, Planning, and Forecasting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
-
Ratings
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
10.0
22 Ratings
8% above category average
Long-term financial planning00 Ratings10.017 Ratings
Financial budgeting00 Ratings10.020 Ratings
Forecasting00 Ratings10.021 Ratings
Scenario modeling00 Ratings10.016 Ratings
Management reporting00 Ratings10.021 Ratings
Analytics and Reporting
Comparison of Analytics and Reporting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
-
Ratings
Oracle Hyperion (legacy)
8.2
20 Ratings
0% above category average
Personalized dashboards00 Ratings8.018 Ratings
Color-coded scorecards00 Ratings7.115 Ratings
KPIs00 Ratings9.917 Ratings
Cost and profitability analysis00 Ratings9.917 Ratings
Key Performance Indicator setting00 Ratings8.015 Ratings
Benchmarking with external data00 Ratings6.013 Ratings
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User Ratings
Epicor KineticOracle Hyperion (legacy)
Likelihood to Recommend
9.0
(40 ratings)
10.0
(23 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
5.0
(1 ratings)
Usability
9.0
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
10.0
(2 ratings)
8.0
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
8.5
(15 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
7.6
(14 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Epicor KineticOracle Hyperion (legacy)
Likelihood to Recommend
Epicor Software
Epicor is an excellent system for most manufacturing customers and offers several features previously only offered on the very large (e.g. Oracle, PeopleSoft, etc) level platforms. Yet the pricing is mid-level, and the expandability through additional modules provides a great opportunity for future business growth. The architecture is easily scalable, fast, and offers great options for both on premise and hosted systems. Epicor is flexible, and large enough that regular updates and enhancements continue to be adopted to improve functionality and effectiveness. It is however, not for everyone. Competition in this sector is very good, with several mid-level systems being available at a similar price point. If you are considering adopting a new ERP system and are in the plastics space, you also owe it to yourself and your team to consider IQMS, which is becoming a de-facto standard in this segment. Also, for specific medical sectors, you will find that Epicor software validation for CFR Part 11 compliance can be quite costly-- although the software is capable of supporting this with modification. Overall, Epicor is a solid choice. Ultimately, it will be up to your team to determine what works best for your needs. You won't be disappointed with Epicor if you do the due diligence and take the time needed to properly review and demo the product. Remember though, demos are typically "best case" staged, so be sure to throw several curveballs at your vendor and bring out the unique requirements of your business.
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Discontinued Products
Well suited: For use in multiple offices around the world. I was able to obtain financial reporting data from 5 foreign offices and then consolidate their data with 3 domestic USA offices to prepare a consolidated financial statement. Less Appropriate: Translating the financial value for consulting services could be a bit challenging because that required human interaction and judgement. It would have been great to be able to set up some software to be able to interpret this and let it run for all future project work revenue projection.
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Pros
Epicor Software
  • Epicor has the best product configurator that I have seen on the market. This was one of the main reasons we went with Epicor, and have not been disappointed at all.
  • Epicor is also one of the easiest ERP system to learn, and has many ways for users to get training. Epicor University, on-line courses, or class room settings, also user conference every year, and user support groups.
  • The Enterprise search ability in Epicor is great, can find parts, customers, suppliers, etc. so easily. And if you can't remember where a report or task that you want to do is on the menu, you can search for that also.
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Discontinued Products
  • This product handles budgeting by Employee and/or Position very well. It is highly flexible and allows Hyperion administrators the ability to develop a planning application that fits a variety of different business needs.
  • It is great at calculating benefits using business rules to automate the population of these fringe costs in the overall budget planning process. This greatly reduces user error.
  • It allows you to seed the operating budget based on changes to key drivers, such as percentage increases, flat dollar increases and more detailed changes using business rules.
  • Allows visibility into the plans for each unit across the organization, rolled up into an overall budget for the campus.
  • It handles the creation of budgets with multiple chartfield segments or dimensions, which most other budgeting systems cannot handle well. It can aggregate these very quickly.
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Cons
Epicor Software
  • Consultants should be very well trained to make sure program integrity is maintained during challenging implementations.
  • There should be an improvement on answering questions raised, especially upon migration issues.
  • When is Epicor aware of improper/incorrect implementation they might proactively offer improvement support?
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Discontinued Products
  • One pain point for us is the consolidation and translation process. Needing to translate the data over and over again is frustrating and there is no visibility into how many users are running a translation. If multiple users attempt to translate the same data set, say goodbye to your performance but you have no way of knowing! (Unless you want to pull up a task audit which is not a very realistic expectation). It has the been the quickest way for us to bring the system to it's knees. The consolidation process performs in direct correlation to the complexity of the calculation/consolidation rules. So, while the product is extremely flexible, you still have to be careful how you design your rules and calculations to make sure that you do it on the smallest subset of data as possible to avoid large processing times. This makes sense, but requires some significant expertise that most organizations do not have in-house.
  • The Hyperion Financial Reporting product is ridiculously outdated and clunky to use. The interface for designing reports is not intuitive, and not easy to modify once a report is built. I think there must be a strategic decision to move away from it and go to something more like Oracle BI because I just can't understand why in the world they don't update the reporting product. It also requires a significant level of expertise to be able to use. Not a great solution at all if you want multiple end-users to create reports in something other than Excel. Nobody except the HFM admin (which I used to be) in our company even touches this module.
  • Another pain point is the amount of IT support that is required to run this thing, and again, specialized knowledge of Hyperion products and how they work is required for IT to adequately support it. This goes for application servers and the Oracle database that the applications are running on.
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Likelihood to Renew
Epicor Software
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Discontinued Products
We're in the middle of the road because we are not sure that other products on the market fit the bill for what we need yet. Hyperion is expensive and burdensome from an administrator and maintenance standpoint, but it still seems to be the best solution for what we need. Show us an equally capable SaaS consolidation product and we'll talk again.
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Usability
Epicor Software
I give this rating because the software has good functionality and usability. The system does not crash and can also be maintained under overall conditions in any business function. We utilize this to communicate effectively in various areas and make informed business decisions. This is highly rated as we make other changes to our organization
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Discontinued Products
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Support Rating
Epicor Software
If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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Discontinued Products
The premium support team provides much needed dedicated customer service which we are after for what we have paid for this service. We are satisfied with the service and support and do not have any instance where there was an issue that requires escalation to get the right support team. Though the incidence of major issues that requires the premium support are less, we prefer to keep this as a safety net.
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Alternatives Considered
Epicor Software
Everyone at our organization really appreciated "made 2 manage" because of all of the quick access and some of the capabilities in accounting. So far, Epicor is much more advanced but the two can stand side by side. These two programs cannot really be compared just because it's just not fair to compare an on-site server ERP system to a cloud-based one.
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Discontinued Products
I use Oracle Hyperion Enterprise Performance Mangement because the company I work at requires me to use it in the Financial Planning sector as most of their data is stored in it. I am open minded and ready to use other performance management tools created by Oracle if my work permits.
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Scalability
Epicor Software
The software is pretty easy to use. Things are pretty clear on how to do them and if you don't know how to do something they have instructions on how to do them or you get an error code telling you exactly what to do. I have been satisfied with my overall experience.
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Discontinued Products
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Return on Investment
Epicor Software
  • The ROI can be hard to quantify. We spend more time setting up and entering information up front, but we spend less time than before trying to track project costs so that evens out. Purchasing the system and implementing it was very expensive, but the benefit is the the better information can save money on projects as we know where best to spend our time and identify potential problems earlier on a project. We believe it will have a positive impact, but I'd say it will take a few years (3-4) to be worth it.
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Discontinued Products
  • Oracle Hyperion allows us to automate and consolidate financial data that used to be performed manually in spreadsheets. From that perspective the ROI is huge.
  • Oracle Hyperion functionality is extensive and allows us to perform most functions for planning, consolidating and reporting on our financial data.
  • One negative with Oracle Hyperion is that it is complicated to implement and maintain. It takes expertise at all levels (infrastructure and management) to realize the benefits from it.
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ScreenShots

Epicor Kinetic Screenshots

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