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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    ETO Software (legacy)

    Score7.2 out of 10
    Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
    ETO Software is a legacy case management solution supported by Social Solutions, acquired by Bonterra, and later sold as Bonterra ETO. The application is not the company's current case management solution.N/A

    SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite

    Score8.3 out of 10
    N/AThe SAP Signavio portfolio offers an integrated platform that helps usersto realign the organization and bring changes, with a suite of products that support business processes. The SAP Signavio portfolio offers a range of business transformation solutions to serve the emerging practice of customer excellence (CEX). SAP Signavio solutions bring together a full 360-degree view of outside-in and inside-out thinking, translating experiences into operational reality by putting the customer at the…N/A
    Pricing
    ETO Software (legacy)SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Editions & Modules
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    Pricing Offerings
    ETO Software (legacy)SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Free Trial
    NoYes
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    YesYes
    Entry-level Setup FeeRequiredOptional
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    Community Pulse
    ETO Software (legacy)SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Considered Both Products
    Discontinued Products
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    SAP
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    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
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    95%
    Would buy again
    77 Answers
    Delivers good value for the price
    No answers on this topic
    94%
    Delivers good value for the price
    59 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
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    93%
    Happy with the feature set
    75 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
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    82%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    51 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
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    86%
    Implementation went as expected
    55 Answers
    Features
    ETO Software (legacy)SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Reporting & Analytics
    Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of ETO Software (legacy) and SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Feature
    ETO Software (legacy)
    -
    Ratings
    SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    7.1
    60 Ratings
    8% below category average
    Dashboards00 Ratings7.259 Ratings
    Standard reports00 Ratings7.257 Ratings
    Custom reports00 Ratings7.08 Ratings
    Process Engine
    Comparison of Process Engine features of ETO Software (legacy) and SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Feature
    ETO Software (legacy)
    -
    Ratings
    SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    7.4
    75 Ratings
    12% below category average
    Process designer00 Ratings8.171 Ratings
    Process simulation00 Ratings7.366 Ratings
    Business rules engine00 Ratings7.122 Ratings
    SOA support00 Ratings7.442 Ratings
    Process player00 Ratings7.347 Ratings
    Support for modeling languages00 Ratings7.549 Ratings
    Form builder00 Ratings7.140 Ratings
    Model execution00 Ratings7.740 Ratings
    Collaboration
    Comparison of Collaboration features of ETO Software (legacy) and SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Feature
    ETO Software (legacy)
    -
    Ratings
    SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    7.5
    57 Ratings
    10% below category average
    Social collaboration tools00 Ratings7.557 Ratings
    Content Management Capabilties
    Comparison of Content Management Capabilties features of ETO Software (legacy) and SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Feature
    ETO Software (legacy)
    -
    Ratings
    SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    7.8
    49 Ratings
    4% below category average
    Content management00 Ratings7.849 Ratings
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    ETO Software (legacy)SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
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    User Ratings
    ETO Software (legacy)SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Likelihood to Recommend
    7.0
    (44 ratings)
    7.6
    (79 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    1.0
    (6 ratings)
    8.6
    (4 ratings)
    Usability
    1.0
    (5 ratings)
    7.0
    (2 ratings)
    Availability
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    7.3
    (2 ratings)
    Performance
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    6.3
    (2 ratings)
    Support Rating
    4.0
    (5 ratings)
    7.2
    (33 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    -
    (0 ratings)
    7.0
    (1 ratings)
    Online Training
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    7.0
    (1 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    5.1
    (2 ratings)
    7.7
    (41 ratings)
    Configurability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.0
    (2 ratings)
    Contract Terms and Pricing Model
    -
    (0 ratings)
    7.0
    (2 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    -
    (0 ratings)
    6.0
    (1 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    5.5
    (1 ratings)
    8.6
    (2 ratings)
    Professional Services
    -
    (0 ratings)
    6.0
    (1 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    6.4
    (1 ratings)
    6.4
    (2 ratings)
    Vendor pre-sale
    6.4
    (1 ratings)
    7.3
    (2 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    ETO Software (legacy)SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Discontinued Products
    ETO Social Solutions should be avoided until they start caring about the problems generated by their software. In regards specifically to the ARMS suite utilized by the entire state of California, until the ETO software learns how to speak with SOMS, and unless it can be customized by knowledgeable people who consult with front-line users. It is not appropriate to provide the state legislature with bad data. I have 6 years of experience with it and I have multiple sources of agreement from fellow users throughout the state.
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    SAP
    Pros: 1. It reduces technical debt and accelerates a smooth transition, while harmonizing across data migration regions which replaces the legacy customization that are not for S4/HANA. 2. It cuts operational cost by 30% - 40% and improves SLA adherence, while process intelligence identifies duplicate or redundant approval steps when we know SAP ecosystems ties all modules together for better data insights. Cons: 1. Complicated and costly for small businesses. 2. Mature process required for better data feeding and data insights. 3. If non-SAP system data feed might cause misleading and incomplete data insights
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    Pros
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    • ETO's customization allows for the use of so many different and unique applications.
    • The ability to build extremely customized reports also allows us to get very detail oriented results or very broad building wide stats.
    • The additional added features such as workflow, referrals, and ETO Engage are useful in their own way and add more ways to better track and record data while simplifying some end-user processes.
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    SAP
    • Location agnostic (or home office agnostic) collaboration in virtual workshops
    • Internally within the team or with clients, I can prepare, gather materials, and lead during a workshop or meeting with SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite and feel incredibly positioned as the facilitator. Whether in real time or in an asynchronous manner.
    • The combination of highly adaptable and visual work with collaborative tools like forms, comments, timers, and point voting transforms it into a tool I use frequently.
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    Cons
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    • The user interface is not intuitive and exceptionally difficult for non-tech savvy people to learn.
    • The system is not as customizable as we were led to believe at the initial purchase.
    • The system does not interface well with other systems. Organizationally we are moving towards data integration, and we will likely replace ETO because of this limitation.
    • Considering the limitations of the system, the cost is quite high. We've seen only marginal benefits of this system over pen and paper, and the ROI is not promising.
    • The initial build process was very frustrating. We didn't understand what the developer was billing us for. Something like simple touchpoint forms was billed for more hours than it would seem to require.
    • A system like this should be both fully mobile compatible and have offline functionality.
    • We would benefit from more nuanced security settings.
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    SAP
    • For businesses looking to improve their current business processes, I think SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite is incredibly well-suited.
    • In my opinion, SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite excels in sectors with strict regulatory requirements.
    • I think SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite is the best option when teams from several departments must work together on process design or improvement initiatives because of its real-time collaboration capabilities.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Discontinued Products
    Social Solutions has been great for our organization. It has allowed us to not only report on data, but to dive into it to see trends and give snapshots of the current status of our neighbors. Social Solutions has been helpful in getting us to see additional ways we can use our data and ways that it is easier for front line staff to use this tool
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    SAP
    Signavio is part of our process ownership and is key for visible of end-to-end process
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    Usability
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    As a technically savvy person with experience learning new database software systems I find ETO relatively straightforward now that I've been trained in it's use. However, many of our staff are less technically savvy and the learning curve for ETO can be grueling for many, who require frequent troubleshooting and support from me. Additionally, there are small quality of life improvements that would increase usability even for me - such as allowing multiple tabs to be open simultaneously or being able to use the browser's "back" and "forward" buttons.
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    SAP
    Really great and well designed
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    Reliability and Availability
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    Routine maintenance is announced with plenty of lead time, and the few times I've been unable to log in to the system properly a simple refresh was all that was required to fix.
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    SAP
    Yes its always available
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    Performance
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    Mostly really strong now, although I understand that for some years before switching their hosting service to AWS performance was a real issue with ETO and we had frequent problems with pages timing out or other glitches stemming from performance issues. With AWS that is mostly a thing of the past, although it is still a major issue with the reporting tool which is unable to run reports on the entire database due to performance limitations, instead requiring admins to define universes prior to running queries.
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    SAP
    Everything is very fast
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    Support Rating
    Discontinued Products
    We love the first tier customer support folks! They're friendly, helpful, and knowledgeable within the scope of their position. The experiences we've had with their supervisors have also been mostly good and again they seem to be doing what they can within the scope of their positions. This is what prevents me from selecting 1. Unfortunately, none of these wonderful folks can offer real solutions when things are actually broken. They verify there's a problem and send it to the black hole called "the developers". After that, we don't hear anything useful and we figure out how to live with/work around the problem ourselves. (Requests for updates typically get "still with the developer" responses.) This is highly frustrating given that most of our issues are basic system issues (functionality that worked then broke after an update by Social Solutions, servers not syncing, report universes not flattening automatically, etc.). All we want is for the system to work as designed and to be fixed in a timely fashion when it doesn't. Apparently, that's too much to ask. (And no, we don't expect it to happen instantly, programming and quality control checks obviously take time.)
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    SAP
    i contacted support via sap for me via the person who implemented and also via our customer support executive. all 3 channels i was satisfied. of course it was the slowest via the ticket, but even that one i got proper solution in relatively OK time frame
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    In-Person Training
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    SAP
    Real useful trainings and hand ons
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    Online Training
    Discontinued Products
    Really good trainer and exhaustive curriculum covered, but ETO is a complex enough system that you don't *really* know how to use it until you've been in the trenches for a few weeks. For instance, I took a Report Writing training and emerged with some fluency in the reports interface and a vague understanding of the process, but immediately encountered a legion of instance-specific idiosyncrasies that would have been totally impossible to address in a webinar training for a dozen folks from different orgs working in different instances.
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    SAP
    Very complete and useful for day to day operations
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    Implementation Rating
    Discontinued Products
    Hard to say, as I was not with the agency at the time. However, based on our use of the software ~5years later I can say that there were no catastrophic design choices made during implementation that have become unduly burdensome as we've scaled up.
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    SAP
    Training is taking way longer than expected. We have had more than 50 hours of training and still do not feel proficient enough to do anything meaningful with Process Intelligence. The Process Insights are pretty intuitive but does take a willingness to dig in and explore, but in general good right out of the box.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Discontinued Products
    When we made our decision several years ago Social Solutions had just acquired Apricot. At that time it was recommended to use ETO based off our revenue stream. However, it seems like Social Solutions has put in a lot more time and effort into Apricot over ETO and it seems more modern and user friendly. I think it is worth a second look once our contract expires
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    SAP
    We were able to end the use of archive versions thanks to SAP Signavio Process Transformation Suite, and everyone has access to the most recent archive. Mac and Windows users can collaborate on a single document. A design tool that spans the concept phase, design phase, and delivery to engineering
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    Contract Terms and Pricing Model
    Discontinued Products
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    SAP
    Not really, its easy to comprehend
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    Scalability
    Discontinued Products
    The core product scales well, and we've grown quite a bit as an agency during our use of ETO. However, there are some real pain points particularly around creating new programs and managing report universes that require extensive offline checklist resources and a full-spectrum understanding of how changing settings in one part of ETO can have downstream impact in other areas. This can introduce a "chilling" effect on proposed changes to the system, where there is strong incentive to leave things as-is to avoid unforeseen consequences.
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    SAP
    Definitely a 10!
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    Return on Investment
    Discontinued Products
    • I would say that at this point the overall ROI has been negative as we aren't getting much more out of our data by the switch we made to ETO, but the cost is much higher. I anticipate that will change as we get better at using ETO.
    • Most users that have switched to ETO in our organization prefer it to what they were using before and some are more appreciative of the value they can get from the data.
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    SAP
    • With the help of Signavio, we are now much more operationally efficient, which saves money and makes better use of our resources.
    • The software's emphasis on collaboration has encouraged innovation within our teams, resulting in original solutions and better project outputs.
    • Compliance is crucial for our sector. We have lowered the danger of regulatory problems by maintaining stringent compliance standards with the aid of Signavio.
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