F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense vs. FortiWeb

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense
Score 8.3 out of 10
N/A
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense (formerly Shape Defense, acquired January 2020) provides security to protect a website from bots, fake users, and unauthorized transactions, preventing large scale fraud and eroded user experiences. Companies get visibility, detection and mitigation outcomes to reduce fraud and cloud hosting, bandwidth and compute costs, improve user experiences, and optimize their business based on real human traffic.N/A
FortiWeb
Score 6.7 out of 10
N/A
FortiWeb is Fortinet's web application security system (or web application firewall, WAF) featuring advanced vulnerability management and threat detection and prevention, available in deployment as an appliance or virtual appliance, also as a hosted or a cloud-based virtual solution.N/A
Pricing
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseFortiWeb
Editions & Modules
Enterprise
Custom Quote
per year
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseFortiWeb
Free Trial
YesNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesNo
Entry-level Setup FeeOptionalNo setup fee
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User Ratings
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseFortiWeb
Likelihood to Recommend
8.2
(33 ratings)
8.2
(1 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
8.2
(1 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
8.3
(33 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
7.8
(24 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseFortiWeb
Likelihood to Recommend
F5
I'd strongly recommend it, but with a few caveats depending on how mature the team is with behavioral based security tools. One of our fintech clients was getting hit with low volume, widely spread login attempts, below our rate limiting thresholds. F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense was able to flag abnormal input timings, inconsistent device fingerprinting and high entropy in field population behavior. You can only imagine the wave of downstream account lockouts this saved the client. On the other end we had a client with a real time trading platform using Graphql over websockets. F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense wasn't able to tap into that stream natively. we had to reverse engineer a proxy layer to inspect events. It worked but it was clunky and not officially supported
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Fortinet
Regarding my experience, I prefer to deploy FortiWeb in a reverse proxy to have the full features and protection. The other mode will be useful for special cases as will it will not have the full range of features and protection. Like offline Sniffing, it will be used in special cases.
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Pros
F5
  • Quickly helps mitigate the retooling and newer advanced bot attacks
  • Excellent customer service from our f5 bot Defense team/partners
  • Easy to do Traffic Analysis/False Positive reviews with their dashboard of data
  • Our F5 Security/Solutions Architect and TAM is always there for us whenever we need them
  • First class service by the F5 Distributed Cloud Bot DefenseSOC, the Tactics Team, the F5 Testing person that helps us, the mobile SDK experts, the Client-Side Signals experts and F5 management
  • Industry best Threat Briefings
  • Not only is F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense great at stopping the advanced bot attacks, they also have protection against any tampering or replay attacks.
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Fortinet
  • API protection
  • Bot mitigation
  • Web application protection
  • Application delivery
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Cons
F5
  • On a technical side, we've had a lot of deployment issues. This is not a one-sprint solution.
  • We ran into undocumented failure modes and had to rely on L2 and L3 customer support, delaying troubleshooting significantly [in our experience].
  • Accurate log ingestion is a larger challenge than one would want in a security tool.
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Fortinet
  • Built-in vulnerability scanner should be better in next release
  • Predefined security policies for other web application not listed
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Likelihood to Renew
F5
We are more likely than not, to renew it. It saved us from a really huge data breach 4 months ago. It has earned its shower so far
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Fortinet
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Support Rating
F5
Official support can sometimes take time to reach the right people. However, once you are in contact with the appropriate experts, the support is excellent, as F5 staff are true specialists. On the other hand, we always receive prompt assistance from our local sales team, who typically help us connect with the right people quickly.
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Fortinet
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Implementation Rating
F5
Implementation of Distributed Cloud is accomplished a few different ways, it would pay to meet with the F5 team and map out your implementation prior to acquisition to make sure you Infrastructure and Operations teams are aligned to the approach and requirements.
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Fortinet
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Alternatives Considered
F5
Clodflare bot management was our other obvious option for us. We tested it on a staging version of our RFQ platform. It was great for broad traffic filtering but had a hard time with nuanced differences between real subcontractors and low volume bots mimickingt human input whereas that's where F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense thrived
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Fortinet
Most of them have the same features but not for FREE. The second point was the total cost of ownership for 3 and 5 years. Fortinet supported us with the best prices for 3 years and 5 years as well with advanced hardware replacement against the others.
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Return on Investment
F5
  • Prior to F5 Distributed Cloud Bot Defense, we were averaging 12k plus credential stuffing attempts weekly across client portals That number fell down to less than a thousand in just 4 weeks
  • Over 90 percent of scraping and unauthorized price harvesting blocked
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Fortinet
  • ROI for last three years was 60%
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