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Oracle Java SE vs. Oracle Siebel Enterprise Marketing Suite (discontinued)

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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Oracle Java SE

    Score8.1 out of 10
    N/AOracle Java SE is a programming language and gives customers enterprise features that minimize the costs of deployment and maintenance of their Java-based IT environment.N/A

    Oracle Siebel Enterprise Marketing Suite (discontinued)

    Score9 out of 10
    N/AOracle offered the Siebel Enterprise Marketing Suite as an end-to-end enterprise marketing management (EMM) solution joining cross-channel campaign management with marketing automation, market resource and asset management, and marketing analytics, for larger enterprises. The product is now End of Life, and no longer offered for sale.N/A
    Pricing
    Oracle Java SEOracle Siebel Enterprise Marketing Suite (discontinued)
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    Pricing Offerings
    Oracle Java SEOracle Siebel Enterprise Marketing Suite (discontinued)
    Free Trial
    NoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    Community Pulse
    Oracle Java SEOracle Siebel Enterprise Marketing Suite (discontinued)
    Considered Both Products
    Oracle
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    Discontinued Products
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    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    96%
    Would buy again
    23 Answers
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    Delivers good value for the price
    94%
    Delivers good value for the price
    16 Answers
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    Happy with the feature set
    100%
    Happy with the feature set
    24 Answers
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    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    100%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    13 Answers
    No answers on this topic
    Implementation went as expected
    100%
    Implementation went as expected
    22 Answers
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    User Ratings
    Oracle Java SEOracle Siebel Enterprise Marketing Suite (discontinued)
    Likelihood to Recommend
    9.0
    (33 ratings)
    8.0
    (3 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    -
    (0 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    Usability
    9.0
    (3 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Support Rating
    8.0
    (19 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Oracle Java SEOracle Siebel Enterprise Marketing Suite (discontinued)
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Oracle
    Oracle Java SE is well suited to long-running applications (e.g. servers). Java Swing (UI toolkit) is now rather outdated, lacking support for modern UI features. JavaFX, the potential replacement for Swing, has now been separated out of Java core. Ideally, there would be a path to migrate a large application incrementally from Swing to JavaFX, but due to different threading models and other aspects, it is difficult. At this point, it is probably better to use an embedded web browser (e.g. JxBrowser) to provide a modern UI in HTML/Javascript and keep just the business logic in Java.
    Incentivized
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    Discontinued Products
    If you need a hosted rather than cloud based CRM, Siebel is a consideration. It's best suited to organizations with a large customer database. Given the complexity involved you need at least two full time marketing analysts.The email marketing functionality isn't core to the offering and most organizations would be much better served by cloud based email systems. Siebel offers a very comprehensive feature set and is powerful in the hands of a super user. However, given the costs involved in upgrading a hosted solution I would put serious effort into convincing your decision makers to go for a cloud based CRM instead.
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    Pros
    Oracle
    • Plenty support built into the tool and IDE like Maven, Ant, Eclipse, IntelliJ.
    • Strong object-orientation language and clear project structure.
    • Wrapper underlines hardware and memory management so the developers can focus on business and implementation.
    • It offers a huge library and framework support from third-parties and the community.
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    • Siebel EMS offered useful customer insight and more effective dialogue with recipients by delivering the right message to the right customer at the right time.
    • Siebel EMS was very effective for loyalty lifecycle and retention by seamlessly integrating with marketing and CRM platforms.
    • Siebel EMS was instrumental in aligning marketing, sales and analytics divisions.
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    Cons
    Oracle
    • Commercial Licensing in 2019. Oracle will charge commercial organizations using Java SE for upgrading to the latest bug fixes and updates. Organizations will now need to either limit their implementation of Java SE or may need to drop it altogether.
    • Slow Performance. Due to the all of the abstraction of the JVM, Java SE programs take much more resources to compile and run compared to Python.
    • Poor UI appearance on all of the major GUI libraries (Swing, SWT, etc.). Through Android Studio, it is easy to get a native look/feel for Java apps, but when it comes to desktops, the UI is far from acceptable (does not mimic the native OS's look/feel at all).
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    • Oracle Siebel Marketing Suite's processing time is not as fast as I would expect it to be. This is the major improvement I would like to see in it.
    • It requires a very high level of training being given to the employees for configuring and implementing it in the business needs.
    • Expert employees are needed in order to understand the functionality of Oracle Siebel Enterprise Marketing Suite, which is not easy to find.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Oracle
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    Discontinued Products
    A very conservative data security policy limits the organization to a hosted solution. At particular issue is the tendency of cloud based CRMs to have data centres based in the US, a major issue for Canadian consumers. Once you have integrated a system of this size and complexity, and have the staff resources to utilize it effectively, it's hard to justify a move to an alternative. Consider Siebel if you are a conservatively run organization with a large database of customers and a big marketing team
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    Usability
    Oracle
    Oracle Java SE provides the new features along with timely security patches. New features like Record patterns and pattern matching for switches are very useful. With every new release of Java, it is getting better. Sequenced collections are also an interesting feature added to Java. With all these new features, backward compatibility is also maintained.
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    Support Rating
    Oracle
    Java is such a mature product at this point that there is little support from the vendor that is needed. Various sources on the internet, and especially StackOverflow, provide a wealth of knowledge and advice. Areas that may benefit from support is when dealing with complex multithreading issues and security libraries.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Oracle
    Chose to go with Java instead of Python or C++ due to the expertise on the ground with the technology, for its ease of integration with our heterogeneous setup of production servers, and for the third party library support which we've found was able to address some challenging aspects of our business problem.
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    Salesforce is easier to use and more open source and available for external integrations.
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    Return on Investment
    Oracle
    • The different versions make it harder to work with other companies where some use newer versions while some use older versions, costing time to make them compatible.
    • Licenses are getting to be costly, forcing us to consider OpenJDK as an alternative.
    • New features take time to learn. When someone starts using them, everyone has to take time to learn.
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    Discontinued Products
    • It has increased the business tactics as we have added more clients who wish to use this technology.
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