Bizagi vs. Oracle SOA Suite vs. SAP NetWeaver BPM

Permits dependence reduction on external IT suppliers, maximum value extraction from large/legacy systems, and business and IT collaboration. For big Companies, while an enterprise should expect to face a lot of difficulties, thus increasing the learning curve, while dealing with the platform's rollout the timeline to deploy is extensive.

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Oracle service bus is great to quickly proxy any legacy services exposed as soap service. It's well suited for aggregating multiple services on a single endpoint. We can point to multiple endpoints on the business service and use a round-robin approach to access the endpoints. It's not well suited for data transformation and quick preview of mappings and transformations. It's not great on path to cloud transformation.

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It is well suited when we need to integrate business processes with SAP ERP and SAP CRM - the solution can be integrated with business rules/procedures defined in SAP ERP/CRM and NetWeaver can be used to monitor the rules and flag off exceptions. When there are multiple workflows running, it tends to slow down running of these processes. Also, it entirely depends on SAP portal for it to run efficiently.

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• design process
• enable to collaborate on process with customer
• enable to generate good world documents
• has a clear view how the process will looks like
• enable to design roles in the workflow

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• The Oracle Service Bus makes the management of web services extremely easy. Through its point and click interface, the web service endpoints can be easily modified.
• The administration console provides useful dashboards to diagnose any service issues.

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• Virtual paper trail. Iterations of process and current documentation are all stored as "artifacts", leaving a great trail.
• Configuration of users. BPM somewhat magically determines which users will be impacted and automates rules.
• A pro (that is also a con) is the design interface. If you know what you are doing, it is incredibly powerful and malleable.

• Some minor things to improve but works pretty well. If you have an idea to improve Bizagi Modeler, you can post it on the Bizagi forum, and maybe, in a next release, you will find it realized. Yes, it happened to me.

• Message reporting tied to a database seems counter productive. Better options to eliminate that would not only minimize the maintenance hassle but also gives more ease to manage the product.
• Polling feature isn't very efficient where the end point JMS queues may still have JMS connections despite not enabling the corresponding poller proxy services.
• Unable to deploy multiple web services in one go from the OSB Web console.

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• Live readings would be nice.
• Easier to maneuver
• Work with all systems with the press of one keystroke

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Try it and you will understand.

We have had not many issues with Oracle Service Bus and it's very stable for our requirements. It's highly available and helps us implement Tier1 applications on it.

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As a big fan of SAP in general, the BPM solution fits right in with all the other things SAP does well, and does it with incredible efficiency

It is applicable in any complex process scenario- regardless of company function. Though it is very useful and customizable, it is best to be deployed by a centralized team or experts in BPMN and coding, as all of the customizing options can quickly overwhelm any citizien developer and lead to harmful results

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It's an excellent enterprise service bus and has very stable features. We have been using it since 2008. We did hit into some issues. But, recreating the service helped fix many issues. Also, deployment to various environments was easy. Also, the plugin on Eclipse helps to build proxy and business services quick and easy.

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We had some issues with MQ connectivity through OSB and our experience was poor with the support team. They do respond. But, it felt like we are ignored and we had bad support. We had to escalate and things used to get dragged for weeks before we get more quality questions on how to pursue investigation.

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We have our own tech support for systems, I would say they probably could use more training on it, I don't really think it's anything regarding the SAP system, but more the knowledge they have on the system itself. It seems to take longer for them to fix any issues we may come across.

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Online training Free Well chaptered Progressive

The pricing/value proposition of the product compared to its competitors is very competitive.

The cost is reasonable, especially for what you get, and especially for this software segment.

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Oracle being the market leader and has a lot of compatibilities with sources like SOA projects, Oracle database and other JMS feeds.

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I found the initial setup of NetWeaver is much simpler than other products especially in an SAP environment where we have SAP ERP/HRM/CRM as it can be well integrated with other SAP products. The only drawback is the need/dependency on SAP Portal. It is better suited in an environment where SAP ERP is running.

Incentivized

• it speeds up very much designing the workflows so we save time and money
• it helps to accept process with customer so it also safe time and money

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• Improve customer relations/service
• Create internal/operational efficiencies
• Improve business process outcomes
• Improve compliance & risk management
• Strong services expertise
• Pre-existing relationships
• Strong consulting partnership
• Product functionality and performance

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• Helped us harness integrated benefit from having SAP ERP/CRM by leveraging NetWeaver to define business processes/rules and monitor exceptions
• Did not have any negative experience except for the fact that at times when multiple rules run, it can be somewhat slow

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