BQE CORE vs. Odoo CRM

I would recommend this for our industry: architecture, engineering, or construction. I would recommend this for any larger firm with many employees or high number of projects. I would particularly recommend this for a company with projects that have budget constraints and where time tracking and expense tracking is very important. I would not recommend this complicated software for a small firm with a small amount of income or number of projects.

For small businesses and small teams, Odoo CRM is fine. It has the basics, and it is functional. But as the teams grow, processes become more complex, and reporting needs to be accurate, you will have to either allocate a budget to an Odoo partner or hire a Python developer internally. Sales-led organizations with larger teams will find poor reporting a deal-breaker. You can't do standard reporting that you find in HubSpot or Salesforce. So you end up doing a lot of customization or manual work to get the reports you need.

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• Invoice Collections within Billing is a great tool because of the ability to take notes and track contact.
• Invoices are professional looking and easy for our clients to understand the overall progress within each phase of their project.
• Dashboards are the best tool EVER!
• The Contact List feature within Clients setup is the perfect way to track multiple project managers within a large company that also has multiple contracts with us.

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• Generating quotations partiuclarly for the ease of data amendment so that products can be added on the fly and names can be amended per quote to suit
• The contact tagging feature is a fantastic way of grouping customers/leads into industry specific groups for targetting specific areas seperately
• Very versatile customer pricelist function for ensuring discount structures are accurately calculated

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• Customizable Reporting
• Linking Project to Payment all together
• Assigning contacts to particular roles - such as Invoicing, Contracts, etc.
• Accounting Functionality - they are basically a project management accounting software, so in my opinion, they could learn some things from other accounting software such as QuickBooks etc.

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• UI can be improved
• The lead view can be better since we have to scroll a lot.
• The server is down or technical glitches are happening . We have seen distance in lead count

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We have been using Core for a few years now, and honestly started to look at other software systems to see what was out there. What we chose was a nightmare for migration so we never left Core. Now we have added invoicing and payments from Core instead of double entry with QBO. Still only a few cycles in but looks like it will be up to speed soon and working smoothly.

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The foundation is awesome, like I have said before, however the house being built on it, the educational resources being provided to us (more of sales pitches that don't work), and flexible workflow opportunities, is making us look elsewhere for how much we will be spending on per user. It's crazy to think how flexible they are not when it comes to user settings. Lack of integration with other sources is awful.

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Odoo CRM is usable and has a lot of features, so it gives us the basics we need to run a successful business. The problem is, it requires a lot of time and money to customize it and run it smoothly. Plus, Odoo support can be pretty bad. For every 1 good support agent, there are 9 that don't pay attention. We have an internal running joke that ChatGPT is more helpful than Odoo support when they first reply. Once we get to product experts, they usually know what they are talking about. But the first-level support agents, you have to push them and re-explain things to get them to understand and hopefully escalate. Plus, they always miss SLA response times, blaming it on a busy period. Usually takes a week for the first reply. You can get live chat sometimes, but 9 out of 10 times, they will ask you to create a support ticket. Then you wait.

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I can only remember a couple of times in 4 years that Core has been unavailable.

This is one area that does need some improvement. It can be slow at time, so we had our IT look at it from our side and we had no issues, so it has to be some slowness on their side.

As a new employee and CORE user, I talk to support on a weekly basis. I have never had to wait for more than 3 min to get connect with a support rep, and all my questions have been answered. The support representatives are polite and eager to help no matter how simple your question is.

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This was a bit of a sticking point, we find the support can be lacking and generally its recommended to spurchase a support pack of hours in order to benefit from full support. We have subsequently gone on to do a lot of the implementation and training by ourselves following lots of trial and error so although things are working now, it was initialy a bumpy road implementing!

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Make sure you have someone training you that fits your style of learning.

It does take some time to understand the options and to find the best invoice template.

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Deltek Vision is far more advanced, more encompassing and offers more flexibility with what you want to do. However, it's also quite difficult to use, whereas BQE CORE is intuitive and user friendly. The trade off is worth it in some arenas but overall it's not suited for a larger fast paced company. Great for smaller companies.

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Odoo was referred by one of my friends and interface was attractive with all these pipelines, filters, etc

We were able to filter leads super precisely and project as per our vision. The notes and reminders are useful. Odoo Congress with inbuilt calender option from where you can create events and share with the team or the respective prospects

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This software works on a small and large scale.

• Quick setup of new tasks under a parent project, with immediate hourly billing to it.
• Monitoring of details of non-chargeable efforts in appropriate detail
• Validation of hourly cost, billing cost, benefit cost, profitability by person and role
• Company tracking of write-off's included in corporate and project reporting, no data is "lost"
• Can track excessive work time as +PTO in lieu of pay for use as future vacation

• We're managing millions of dollars in sales orders.
• 20-30% of time can be spent on fixing or dealing with issues, partially because of Odoo.sh hosting platform limitations.
• Odoo CRM does allow us to do what we need to run a successful business; it's just 5 years behind HubSpot and Salesforce.

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