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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Encompass from ICE Mortgage Technology

    Score7.9 out of 10
    N/AEncompass from ICE Mortgage Technolgoy (formerly Ellie Mae) is an all-in-one mortgage management solution for lenders.N/A

    Redtail CRM

    Score9.7 out of 10
    N/ARedtail CRM is a cloud-based CRM soluton specifically for financial advisors. Redtail is offered as a subscription service and, unlike most of the other CRM providers available, is priced per database, rather than per user, allowing up to 15 database users for one monthly subscription cost.

    $20

    per month

    Pricing
    Encompass from ICE Mortgage TechnologyRedtail CRM
    Editions & Modules
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    Starter
    $20
    per month
    Basic
    $30
    per month
    Pro
    $50
    per month
    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    Encompass from ICE Mortgage TechnologyRedtail CRM
    Free Trial
    NoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    User Ratings
    Encompass from ICE Mortgage TechnologyRedtail CRM
    Likelihood to Recommend
    6.7
    (69 ratings)
    8.0
    (8 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    10.0
    (5 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    Usability
    8.2
    (2 ratings)
    9.0
    (2 ratings)
    Availability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.0
    (1 ratings)
    Performance
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.0
    (1 ratings)
    Support Rating
    9.1
    (1 ratings)
    8.5
    (2 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    5.5
    (1 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    7.0
    (1 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Encompass from ICE Mortgage TechnologyRedtail CRM
    Likelihood to Recommend
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    The system is great for loan origination and downline processing. The thing about Encompass is that it's only as good as its user so I can see where new loan originators or folks who are new to the system can have a huge disadvantage over somebody who is experienced with it. Of course, if you have experience with it it's the perfect tool. Compliance is also a big factor that Encompass does take advantage of. It communicates with various 3rd parties like Blend, appraisal management systems, Loanbeam, etc to help gather data where needed and keep files in compliance as needed. I don't know of any other case use for Encompass outside of loan origination.
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    Orion Advisor Tech
    It is extremely well suited to client management in the insurance and financial services industries. I think it would not be nearly as useful in a retail setting as many of the features would be irrelevant.
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    Pros
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    • The Web Center allows us to compete in our market and also allows us to continue to originate loans in markets where we don't have a physical originator.
    • The software is easy to use so it allows us to train staff very quickly so they can start producing mortgages.
    • I appreciate receiving information on upcoming updates well before they take place so that I can review the updates and inform the staff of changes they need to be aware of.
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    Orion Advisor Tech
    • Redtail CRM gives the capability to have a place to store all client-related documents in a readily accessible, yet secure, location.
    • Redtail CRM has a feature to input notes and comments on particular clients in order to keep track of communications with and steps taken for those clients. Those notes can be easily accessed across the firm.
    • Redtail CRM allows all email communications to be stored in a safe and secure manner as well as making those communications accessible on demand.
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    Cons
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    • Encompass is a powerful tool that is flexible and can be set up to meet your business needs. However, a guide of best practices in designing a workflow process would be a huge resource.
    • A feature that would be helpful is the ability to easily create pop up boxes that could allow users to identify errors in data being entered in to fields and direct them to a solution to easily correct the error.
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    Orion Advisor Tech
    • I would like to see the ability to push annuity business into Redtail like brokerage accounts.
    • I would like to be able to attach documents to specific notes instead of just contacts in general.
    • Those are the only two cons that I have.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    Invested and believe the system will be able to meet our needs for years to come, plus we have confidence in the company, Ellie Mae.
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    Orion Advisor Tech
    The platform is easy to use and train on. It is a one stop shop with all the information needed to maintain a clean client relationship. We recently had our scheduled audit done and Redtail was helpful in pulling the different reports we needed to produce for the audit
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    Usability
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    some minor improvements would make a huge difference to me
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    Orion Advisor Tech
    Was good and still is good. Seems like when a company acquires another they try to squeeze out more profit and forget what made them successful in the first place. Reducing staff and support seems inevitable, even though the number of users has increased significantly over the past 10 years
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    Reliability and Availability
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    No answers on this topic
    Orion Advisor Tech
    Generally speaking, Red Tail has been available whenever needed. there was a time period however where it was down and not available, giving 500 errors when trying to log in. They explained that it was due to upgrades they were making and it has virtually disappeared. Has now been available 99% of the time.
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    Performance
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    No answers on this topic
    Orion Advisor Tech
    Overall general performance is quite satisfactory. Some of the automation factors that other products have available are slowly migrating to Red Tail. When these add ons are available and fully implemented, it greatly increases the power and usability of the CRM. Occasionally there are products that will not intergrade due to the nature of how they are set up
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    Support Rating
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    No better support around
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    Orion Advisor Tech
    We use the HELP section of Redtail often. If it is taking you more than 5 minutes to figure out than go to the HELP desk. We have had only great experiences when reaching out for help. We also LOVED the Redtail University we attended.
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    Implementation Rating
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    Should have sent someone to become an admin prior to implementation.
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    Orion Advisor Tech
    No answers on this topic
    Alternatives Considered
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    I am a long time user of Calyx software. I have loved using Calyx for most of my career. Early on, I did experience Encompass once and I felt it was too "management centric" at the time. After coming back to it now, I realize that my original feelings were more about distrust of my own management than the software itself.
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    Orion Advisor Tech
    Quite honestly, I have visibility into a number of CRM systems and Redtail stands alone as the strongest contender. It has the most thorough and customizable interface of any I have encountered. There are few other tools that offer the unmatched flexibility and the depth that any business could stand to profit from.
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    Scalability
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    No answers on this topic
    Orion Advisor Tech
    The biggest problem seems to have been with the email module. connection issues, sync issues, compliance updates, etc. The concept is great however there seems to be issues in getting it to work consistently. When it works, it works well. It seems that the frequency of downtime had been greatly reduced however.
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    Return on Investment
    ICE Mortgage Technology
    • Ellie Mae prepared itself well for TRID. We have been able to manage all of the changes using the configurable workflow to help all users understand the nuances of TRID.
    • We have gone paperless saving us time in transporting files between users and allowing us to reduce time to close.
    • Electronic signature of documents has allowed us to reach more borrowers.
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    Orion Advisor Tech
    • Redtail makes it easy to log customer interactions for compliance related fields.
    • With Redtail, you don't have to worry about losing information. Just pull up the customer's profile and make some notes on what is going on. You can never be too detailed in the advisor industry.
    • The integration ability at Redtail really saves us heaps of time. You can feed information over from the custodian straight over to another 3rd party. API is game changing!
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