Epicor Kinetic vs. ProShop ERP

I think it depends on the industry and complexity of the company. In our situation, we primarily use Epicor for financials, in a relatively simple manner. I don't think that Epicor is the most intuitive or simple to set up for our situation. I think Epicor is better suited for its target industry of manufacturing, where building out the multiple layers let's Epicor's strengths come to bear.

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I can't talk highly enough about ProShop ERP. Their team is never satisfied with how it performs and the features it has in place. ProShop has made our company more efficient in every aspect of how we run a business. We shopped around and we couldn't find a system that does everything that ProShop does. It is the most complete robust system on the market in my opinion.

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• MRP Processing, PO Suggestion processing and maintaining Inventory/Accounting cost consistency.
• Freighting with speed and precision allows us to ship on time with over 10 shipping stations they all run seamlessly.
• Using ECM, we've streamlined our AP Invoicing process and increased our teams throughput at least 2x with more speed projected.
• Using Co-Parts with Advanced Production, we've increased inventory accuracy and accounting for parts cost in a more transparent way.

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• ProShop knows how machine shops run and what is required information for all levels of the company.
• Quoting and costing is both quick and thorough. We have confidence in our numbers!
• The support is timely and friendly. They consider all new ideas and explain how to use best use features very well.
• Traceability is above and beyond. We know where everything is, where it came from and where it is going.

• In Application Studio, there are quite a few things that you just have to know in order to really get it to work right. Such as when you are updating a dataview you have to save them refresh and then go back to the wizard to get the added fields that you may have added from a BAQ.
• When running MRP it has a tendency to stall or not finish on occasion. This is a problem as we do not get any PO Suggestions when this happens.

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• Can be slightly overwhelming at first.
• Unless you have a good understanding of how to write script and code the customization pages can be confusing.
• Some of the system notifications can be a little confusing, such as the new rev flag that pops up when the rev for the part changes. We've had some issues with this causing problems to the parts later down the line when trying to transfer duplicate parts to a remake job.

Easy to use, reliable, known product, best product configurator, Epicor continues to offer improvements every year.

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They continue to make the most affordable and complete ERP on the market for our company size and industry

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There is always room for improvement! I've used Great Plains ERP/MS Dynamics and Epicor my entire career. both do some things really well. Both could learn from each other. The KInetic user interface is much better than the classic windows overall. Please keep adding more functionality to the core financials!!! You need the accountants to be on your side.

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It was built by people who ran a job shop and it shows

If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.

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Amazing support. Weather small bugs a large feature requests. ProShop's team is always there willing to help assist with any problems.

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Most of my histories with SAP directly. I didn't really have any negative experiences. The only thing I could say is that I always had to go to somebody else to solve the problem that I can solve first person now with Epicor Kinetic.

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I have used E2 Shoptech for years and evaluated numerous products. For advanced manufacturing, nothing comes close to being as complete as ProShop ERP.

Using the word Scalability usually implies an increase of use, or adding the use of other features. Making the product put to good/proper use for small companies without the need for full-time support, whilst integrity is maintained it is an entirely different topic. In my view, the current company may have acquired a full truck with options, where initially a small pick-up may have been better suited.

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• We have increased our lead time of orders by about a week.
• We have increased our output of product by 10% with the same amount of staff.
• We were able to leverage Kinetic to optimize our business while moving two facilities.

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• Increased Profitability on repeat products
• Ease of review at end of projects
• Ability to requote for customers with changing quantity needs

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