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    Overview
    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Epicor Kinetic

    Score8.1 out of 10
    N/AEpicor Kinetic is a customizable, scalable, product-centric cloud ERP designed specifically for manufacturers.N/A

    SAS Viya

    Score10 out of 10
    N/AAn end-to-end platform for AI, data science, and analytics, used for modeling, as well as management and deployment of AI models.N/A
    Pricing
    Epicor KineticSAS Viya
    Editions & Modules
    No answers on this topic
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    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    Epicor KineticSAS Viya
    Free Trial
    NoYes
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    YesNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
    Additional Details——
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    Community Pulse
    Epicor KineticSAS Viya
    Considered Both Products
    Epicor Software
    No answer on this topic
    SAS
    No answer on this topic
    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    92%
    Would buy again
    169 Answers
    No answers on this topic
    Delivers good value for the price
    90%
    Delivers good value for the price
    126 Answers
    No answers on this topic
    Happy with the feature set
    88%
    Happy with the feature set
    162 Answers
    No answers on this topic
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    77%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    67 Answers
    No answers on this topic
    Implementation went as expected
    70%
    Implementation went as expected
    93 Answers
    No answers on this topic
    Features
    Epicor KineticSAS Viya
    Payroll Management
    Comparison of Payroll Management features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    52 Ratings
    5% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Pay calculation8.250 Ratings00 Ratings
    Benefit plan administration8.129 Ratings00 Ratings
    Direct deposit files7.537 Ratings00 Ratings
    Customization
    Comparison of Customization features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.0
    151 Ratings
    6% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    API for custom integration8.3145 Ratings00 Ratings
    Plug-ins7.7120 Ratings00 Ratings
    Security
    Comparison of Security features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.4
    177 Ratings
    0% below category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Single sign-on capability8.8149 Ratings00 Ratings
    Role-based user permissions8.1174 Ratings00 Ratings
    Reporting & Analytics
    Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.6
    186 Ratings
    1% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Dashboards7.2178 Ratings00 Ratings
    Standard reports7.4183 Ratings00 Ratings
    Custom reports8.1174 Ratings00 Ratings
    General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
    Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.3
    199 Ratings
    6% below category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Accounts payable8.7189 Ratings00 Ratings
    Accounts receivable8.6184 Ratings00 Ratings
    Global Financial Support7.8103 Ratings00 Ratings
    Primary and Secondary Ledgers8.2126 Ratings00 Ratings
    Journals and Reconciliations7.6151 Ratings00 Ratings
    Configurable Accounting8.1136 Ratings00 Ratings
    Standardized Processes8.0159 Ratings00 Ratings
    Inventory Management
    Comparison of Inventory Management features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.4
    186 Ratings
    5% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Inventory tracking8.0185 Ratings00 Ratings
    Automatic reordering7.9111 Ratings00 Ratings
    Location management7.7145 Ratings00 Ratings
    Order Management
    Comparison of Order Management features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.3
    189 Ratings
    5% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Pricing8.4176 Ratings00 Ratings
    Order entry8.3187 Ratings00 Ratings
    Credit card processing7.688 Ratings00 Ratings
    Cost of goods sold8.1165 Ratings00 Ratings
    Order Orchestration7.8119 Ratings00 Ratings
    Subledger and Financial Process
    Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.5
    161 Ratings
    12% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Billing Management7.8142 Ratings00 Ratings
    Cash and Asset Management7.7137 Ratings00 Ratings
    Travel & Expense Management7.580 Ratings00 Ratings
    Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting7.981 Ratings00 Ratings
    Period Close8.2144 Ratings00 Ratings
    Project Financial Management
    Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    9.2
    19 Ratings
    19% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Budgeting and Forecasting9.015 Ratings00 Ratings
    Project Costing8.016 Ratings00 Ratings
    Cost Capture10.017 Ratings00 Ratings
    Capital Project Management9.011 Ratings00 Ratings
    Customer Contract Compliance9.09 Ratings00 Ratings
    Project Revenue Recognition9.012 Ratings00 Ratings
    Project Execution Management
    Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.7
    74 Ratings
    8% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Project Planning and Scheduling7.767 Ratings00 Ratings
    Task Insight for Project Managers7.154 Ratings00 Ratings
    Project Mobile Functionality7.244 Ratings00 Ratings
    Definable Resource Pools7.051 Ratings00 Ratings
    Grants Management
    Comparison of Grants Management features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    33 Ratings
    5% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Award Lifecycle Management8.529 Ratings00 Ratings
    Procurement
    Comparison of Procurement features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.0
    138 Ratings
    12% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Bids Analyzed and Compared7.559 Ratings00 Ratings
    Contract Authoring7.456 Ratings00 Ratings
    Contract Repository7.758 Ratings00 Ratings
    Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated7.696 Ratings00 Ratings
    Supplier Management7.6130 Ratings00 Ratings
    Risk Management
    Comparison of Risk Management features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.8
    49 Ratings
    14% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Risk Repository8.139 Ratings00 Ratings
    Control Management7.744 Ratings00 Ratings
    Control Efficiency Assessments7.440 Ratings00 Ratings
    Issue Detection8.545 Ratings00 Ratings
    Remediation and Certification7.739 Ratings00 Ratings
    Logistics
    Comparison of Logistics features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.6
    103 Ratings
    8% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Transportation Planning and Optimization7.971 Ratings00 Ratings
    Transportation Execution Management7.965 Ratings00 Ratings
    Trade and Customs Management7.556 Ratings00 Ratings
    Fulfillment Management8.086 Ratings00 Ratings
    Warehouse Workforce Management7.973 Ratings00 Ratings
    Manufacturing
    Comparison of Manufacturing features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    148 Ratings
    5% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Production Process Design7.9119 Ratings00 Ratings
    Production Management8.2139 Ratings00 Ratings
    Configuration Management7.6106 Ratings00 Ratings
    Work Execution7.6109 Ratings00 Ratings
    Manufacturing Costs7.7132 Ratings00 Ratings
    Supply Chain
    Comparison of Supply Chain features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    8.1
    134 Ratings
    10% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Forecasting7.1107 Ratings00 Ratings
    Inventory Planning7.7131 Ratings00 Ratings
    Performance Monitoring7.8104 Ratings00 Ratings
    Product Lifecycle Management
    Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Epicor Kinetic and SAS Viya
    Feature
    Epicor Kinetic
    7.9
    67 Ratings
    7% above category average
    SAS Viya
    -
    Ratings
    Proposal Management8.254 Ratings00 Ratings
    Product Master Data Management8.063 Ratings00 Ratings
    Best Alternatives
    Epicor KineticSAS Viya
    Small Businesses
    Zoho One
    Score9.2 out of 10
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    Score8 out of 10
    Medium-sized Companies
    Zoho One
    Score9.2 out of 10
    Alteryx Platform
    Score9 out of 10
    Enterprises
    Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
    Score4.8 out of 10
    Alteryx Platform
    Score9 out of 10
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    User Ratings
    Epicor KineticSAS Viya
    Likelihood to Recommend
    8.1
    (222 ratings)
    9.1
    (12 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    8.8
    (2 ratings)
    4.5
    (5 ratings)
    Usability
    8.1
    (182 ratings)
    8.2
    (3 ratings)
    Availability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    Performance
    -
    (0 ratings)
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    Support Rating
    7.3
    (3 ratings)
    10.0
    (3 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    -
    (0 ratings)
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    Online Training
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.0
    (1 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    7.3
    (1 ratings)
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    Configurability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    -
    (0 ratings)
    8.0
    (1 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    8.5
    (15 ratings)
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    7.6
    (14 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    Vendor pre-sale
    -
    (0 ratings)
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Epicor KineticSAS Viya
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Epicor Software
    I think it depends on the industry and complexity of the company. In our situation, we primarily use Epicor for financials, in a relatively simple manner. I don't think that Epicor is the most intuitive or simple to set up for our situation. I think Epicor is better suited for its target industry of manufacturing, where building out the multiple layers let's Epicor's strengths come to bear.
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    SAS
    SAS Advance Analytics is well suited for data that is visual. Data where you want to see multiple graphs and models are good for this software. However, if your data is more descriptive this may not be the best program. SAS is well suited for data where you need to make comparisons on the feasibility of two different programs. Data that can be compared is perfect for this software.
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    Pros
    Epicor Software
    • MRP Processing, PO Suggestion processing and maintaining Inventory/Accounting cost consistency.
    • Freighting with speed and precision allows us to ship on time with over 10 shipping stations they all run seamlessly.
    • Using ECM, we've streamlined our AP Invoicing process and increased our teams throughput at least 2x with more speed projected.
    • Using Co-Parts with Advanced Production, we've increased inventory accuracy and accounting for parts cost in a more transparent way.
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    SAS
    • SAS is can be used as query builder tool which can automate a lot of excel process.
    • There are variety of statistical options available that tie up good visual analytics.
    • There are inbuilt models available for different operations which doesn't require any coding and are easy to run.
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    Cons
    Epicor Software
    • In Application Studio, there are quite a few things that you just have to know in order to really get it to work right. Such as when you are updating a dataview you have to save them refresh and then go back to the wizard to get the added fields that you may have added from a BAQ.
    • When running MRP it has a tendency to stall or not finish on occasion. This is a problem as we do not get any PO Suggestions when this happens.
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    SAS
    • SAS Analytics does not have very good graphic capabilities. Their advanced graphics packages are expensive, and still not very appealing or intuitive to customize.
    • SAS Analytics is not as up-to-date when it comes to advanced analytical techniques as R or other open-source analytics packages.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Epicor Software
    Easy to use, reliable, known product, best product configurator, Epicor continues to offer improvements every year.
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    SAS
    Not only does SAS become easier to use as the user gets more familiar with its capabilities, but the customer service is excellent. Any issues with SAS and their technical team is either contacting the user via email, chat, text, WebEx, or phone. They have power users that have years of experience with SAS there to help with any issue.
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    Usability
    Epicor Software
    There is always room for improvement! I've used Great Plains ERP/MS Dynamics and Epicor my entire career. both do some things really well. Both could learn from each other. The KInetic user interface is much better than the classic windows overall. Please keep adding more functionality to the core financials!!! You need the accountants to be on your side.
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    SAS
    If SAS Enterprise Guide is utilized any beginning user will be able to shorten the learning curve. This is allow the user a plethora of basic capabilities until they can utilize coding to expand their needs in manipulating and presenting data. SAS is also dedicated to expanding this environment so it is ever growing.
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    Reliability and Availability
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    SAS
    SAS probably has the most market saturation out of all of the analytics software worldwide. They are in every industry and they are knowledgable about every industry. They are always available to take questions, solve issues, and discuss a company's needs. A company that buys SAS software has a dedicated representative that is there for all of their needs.
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    Performance
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    SAS
    Although nothing is perfect, SAS is almost there. The software can handle billions of rows of data without a glitch and runs at a quick pace regardless of what the user wants to perform. SAS products are made to handle data so performance is of their utmost important. The software is created to run things as efficiently as SAS software can to maximize performance.
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    Support Rating
    Epicor Software
    If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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    SAS
    SAS is generally known for good support that's one of the main reasons to justify the cost of having SAS licenses within our organization is knowing that customer support is just a quick phone call away. I've usually had good experiences with the SAS customer support team it's one of the ways in which the company stands out in my view.
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    In-Person Training
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    SAS
    SAS has regional and national conferences that are dedicated to expanding users' knowledge of the software and showing them what changes and additions they are making to the software. There are user groups in most of the major cities that also provide multi-day seminars that focus on specific topics for education. If online training isn't the best way for the user, there is ample in-person training available.
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    Online Training
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    SAS
    There are online videos, live classes, and resource material which makes training very easy to access. However, nothing is circumstantial so applying your training can get tricky if the user is performing complex tasks. When purchasing software, SAS will also allocate education credits so the user(s) can access classes and material online to help expand their knowledge.
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    Implementation Rating
    Epicor Software
    No answers on this topic
    SAS
    Ask as many questions you can before the install to understand the process. Since a third party does the installation your company is sort of a passanger and it is easy to get lost in the process. It also helps to have all users and IT support involved in the install to help increase the knowledge as to how SAS runs and what it needs to perform correctly.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Epicor Software
    Most of my histories with SAP directly. I didn't really have any negative experiences. The only thing I could say is that I always had to go to somebody else to solve the problem that I can solve first person now with Epicor Kinetic.
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    SAS
    SAS was the incumbent tool, and what the team knew. We did look into using Revolution Analytics enterprise version of R, but the learning curve on that caused us to stick with SAS. In my current position, I've opted for WPS over SAS. I can still leverage my SAS experience, but the price is about 15% of what SAS charges, with extra functionality, such as direct database access. I can supplement WPS with free software, such R for anything that it might be missing.
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    Scalability
    Epicor Software
    Using the word Scalability usually implies an increase of use, or adding the use of other features. Making the product put to good/proper use for small companies without the need for full-time support, whilst integrity is maintained it is an entirely different topic. In my view, the current company may have acquired a full truck with options, where initially a small pick-up may have been better suited.
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    SAS
    It all depends on the type of SAS product the user has. Scaleability differs from product to product, and if the user has SAS Office Analytics the scaleability is quite robust. This software will satisfy the majority of the company's analytic needs for years to come. In addition, if SAS is not meeting the users needs the company can easily find SAS solutions that will.
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    Return on Investment
    Epicor Software
    • We have increased our lead time of orders by about a week.
    • We have increased our output of product by 10% with the same amount of staff.
    • We were able to leverage Kinetic to optimize our business while moving two facilities.
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    SAS
    • SAS is pretty expensive, so a company would need to take that into consideration before purchasing a license.
    • A lot of companies are now starting to use SAS Advance Analytics, it is great for sharing data between departments.
    • Presentations come out better when using SAS, and estimates are more precise to the confidence interval.
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    ScreenShots

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