Floship vs. Ontraport

I feel you should AVOID FLOSHIP AT ALL COSTS - in my experience, we have a USD 137,978 loss and counting; they have charged my card for $10,000+ without consent multiple times. I personally recommend AVOIDING THEM AT ALL COSTS. I was originally approached by Floship to provide fulfillment services for a Kickstarter campaign. After being provided a full cost simulation and in-person advice, it was my experience that all support disappeared once fulfillment should have begun. In my experience, our clients have been severely inconvenienced through ineffective and late shipping practices. I feel we have burned a significant amount of time and money in correcting this; to the extent that we will look forward to just shipping ourselves and/or using better alternatives such as Easyship in the future. I feel they do not provide any visibility to their costs which I believe are entirely inflated (e.g. more than $50 USD quoted as import tax for a $3 shipment). It is my experience that they need to provide receipts for their services charged. [...] In my experience, having not dealt with Floship for several months, they have now attempted to charge a card we removed from their website. I believe this implies that they keep your payment details stored separately and record your CVV and other sensitive information. I have since canceled the card since they haven't stopped, and we do not owe them any money. [...] I feel that Floship's complete hostility at the suggestion of any wrongdoing indicates the awful experience I feel you will also have if you work with them. It is also my belief that their responses do not attempt to address our concerns [...]. I feel our prior requests for support, transparency regarding postage receipts, and general work orders have been largely ignored until I spoke out publicly. [...]

Here are some cases where Ontraport is well suited : - When writing emails, you can easily access to preview, manage the changes and go back to what you did before - When using automations, if there's an error, you can go back to a previous version of it. There are also some super tools that allows to see where a clients is on an automation without having to go through the all automation. It is less appropriate when you are several colleague that are addressing an issue on an email/automation as it doesn't allows you to be multiple person on the item.

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• Dashboards for our daily stats.
• The email follows up and broadcasts are simple and easy.
• Sales and marketing can now see the impact they have working together. Nobody can point finger anymore.
• They have the best customer support. I can't tell you how many times they have walked me through the problems that I created.
• Amazing email inboxing.

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• I believe that all costs were hidden with 0 visibility. For example, I was charged a 3% transaction fee and 3% card fee with no other payment options. Shipping costs are provided to you up to 3 months later, but in my experience, no receipts are provided.
• I feel that customer service is non-existent. In my experience, my emails went unanswered unless they are actively soliciting.
• In my experience, additional services such as pick packing inflate costs drastically making our costs 60% underquoted.

• Wish they had more options for their forms. Would really like to use multi-step forms.
• A lot of times their forms load slowly on the website. Would like to see them speed up their services.
• Their broadcasting options are legacy. There are better options out there for sending broadcast messages.

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My client was already using Ontraport and had a decent investment in the tool. As soon as we turn around the revenue situation with my client's products, we will be ditching OAP immediately, despite the significant re-implementation cost we are going to face moving to a new system. I am part of a high-end, professional marketing group, and the overwhelming sentiment with these other professionals is that one should run away from this as fast as humanly possible. I thought their words were just ungrounded opinion, and I deeply regret that I did not heed them more closely before sinking still more time and effort into OAP.

I give Floship a one out of ten because there is no functionality, and I believe costs are deliberately hidden to obfuscate.

The software is just easy to use. The UI is fairly intuitive. The help system is pretty good. I find it is pretty quick to get my work completed and if I don't document my things well, I can always figure out how I did something when I need to make changes. When I have a problem the tech support is easy to deal with and when things need to get escalated they are resolved quickly.

Most of the time OP runs fine. But I've had to submit more support tickets this year do to messages, seq.'s or rules not running correctly. Also experienced slow response times moving in and around OP.

I feel that Floship support is hostile, and did not regularly answer emails.

The techs are reasonably savvy, highly courteous and want to do right by their customers. Unfortunately, the product they are supporting is so deeply flawed that there's only so much they can do when your legitimate business requirements are simply not supported.

I went to their Ontrapalooza event, and it opened my mind as to how the software can be used.

If you know your business, ONTRAPORT is easy

Easyship is a much better alternative; we selected Floshi, I feel, as a costly mistake.

Task management was the main thing that separated ONTRAPORT for me. Keeping things accountable. As well, I felt the campaign builder was slicker, and that the contact management was more robust. Custom fields are very customizable.

With the new lower priced options, it's now easier for newer businesses to start with a more basic version and upgrade as they need more features.

• Negative: Cost to us of over 130K USD
• Negative: Shipments and packages delayed by more than 28 days
• Negative: Complete loss of trust and goodwill for customers

• We are providing better customer service as a direct result of Ontraport. We can track where all of our customers are, what pages/sites/modules they are visiting with ease and tailor our communication accordingly.
• Our marketing funnel has become vastly improved, meaning that our ROI for marketing has gone up. Sales this April are double what they were last year.
• Our team works better together because we all have a better idea of what the other needs and when. The tasks that we can assign in Ontraport mean nothing gets missed, creating a better customer and employee experience.