Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued) vs. HCL Sametime

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
Score 9.0 out of 10
N/A
Cisco Business Edition 7000 was a collaboration and universal communication, VOIP / telephony, conferencing and messaging platform for enterprises of 1000 to 5000 employees. It has been discontinued, and is superseded by functionality found in Webex Calling.N/A
HCL Sametime
Score 7.6 out of 10
N/A
HCL Sametime (formerly IBM Lotus Sametime, acquired by HCL Technologies from IBM in 2018) is an enterprise-level unified communications and VoIP platform. It includes features such as instant messaging, web conferencing, voice and video integration, telephony capabilities, and presence information.N/A
Pricing
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Top Pros
Top Cons
Features
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Project Management
Comparison of Project Management features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
7.3
10 Ratings
7% below category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
Task Management7.810 Ratings00 Ratings
Gantt Charts7.18 Ratings00 Ratings
Scheduling7.08 Ratings00 Ratings
Workflow Automation8.18 Ratings00 Ratings
Mobile Access7.410 Ratings00 Ratings
Search6.68 Ratings00 Ratings
Visual planning tools7.26 Ratings00 Ratings
Communication
Comparison of Communication features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
7.2
10 Ratings
11% below category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
Chat6.29 Ratings00 Ratings
Notifications7.49 Ratings00 Ratings
Discussions7.39 Ratings00 Ratings
Surveys8.37 Ratings00 Ratings
Internal knowledgebase7.39 Ratings00 Ratings
Integrates with GoToMeeting7.25 Ratings00 Ratings
Integrates with Gmail and Google Hangouts7.06 Ratings00 Ratings
Integrates with Outlook6.47 Ratings00 Ratings
File Sharing & Management
Comparison of File Sharing & Management features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
7.6
10 Ratings
7% below category average
HCL Sametime
-
Ratings
Versioning6.68 Ratings00 Ratings
Video files9.76 Ratings00 Ratings
Audio files8.28 Ratings00 Ratings
Document collaboration6.69 Ratings00 Ratings
Access control7.48 Ratings00 Ratings
Advanced security features8.510 Ratings00 Ratings
Integrates with Google Drive8.94 Ratings00 Ratings
Device sync4.88 Ratings00 Ratings
Cloud PBX
Comparison of Cloud PBX features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
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Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.4
7 Ratings
2% above category average
Hosted PBX00 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Multi-level Interactive Voice Response (IVR)00 Ratings9.02 Ratings
User templates00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call reports00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Directory of employee names00 Ratings8.07 Ratings
Call Management
Comparison of Call Management features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
5% below category average
Answering rules00 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Call recording00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Call park00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Call screening00 Ratings8.02 Ratings
Message alerts00 Ratings8.06 Ratings
VoIP system collaboration
Comparison of VoIP system collaboration features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.0
6 Ratings
3% below category average
Video conferencing00 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Audio conferencing00 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Video screen sharing00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Instant messaging00 Ratings8.01 Ratings
Mobile apps
Comparison of Mobile apps features of Product A and Product B
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
-
Ratings
HCL Sametime
8.0
8 Ratings
4% below category average
Mobile app for iOS00 Ratings8.08 Ratings
Mobile app for Android00 Ratings8.07 Ratings
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HCL Connections
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Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)
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Score 9.0 out of 10
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User Ratings
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
8.5
(11 ratings)
7.0
(10 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Usability
-
(0 ratings)
8.6
(2 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
-
(0 ratings)
8.3
(4 ratings)
Ease of integration
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
User Testimonials
Cisco Business Edition 7000 (discontinued)HCL Sametime
Likelihood to Recommend
Discontinued Products
Cisco business edition are well suited for the environment where we need regular communication as they are easy to dial and has got great features. The product is well suited for both small business and large enterprises. Speed dial, good voice quality are key features of Cisco phones. They are not well suited in scenarios where we do not have LAN connectivity or internet. Sometimes we may face latency and jitteriness which is not good.
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is well suited for very quick conversations, where you know the person is an active Sametime user. It also serves as an easy way to reach out to someone you may not know when looking for an answer to a quick question, as they are likely to be a Sametime user. Do not, under any circumstances, attempt to use Sametime for Audio or Video chat. The quality and reliability are horrendous.
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Pros
Discontinued Products
  • The platform supports up to 5,000 users connected at the same time in voice and video calls.
  • Everything is virtually deployed on Cisco servers with reliability.
  • Intuitive configuration and user-friendly web interface.
  • It has several types of IP phones and is compatible with legacy and multi-brand hardware with SIP protocol.
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime's web-based interfaces are "zero load", requiring no plug-ins to be installed to join a meeting, launch a meeting, or use chat in a browser. A plugin is required only if you want to share your screen.
  • Integration with IBM Notes is very tight. Sametime's chat status can change according to your Notes calendar. You can easily see if someone who just emailed you is available to chat. Your chat History is right inside Notes as well.
  • IBM's mobile apps are top notch. We automated the apps for our users thanks to IBM's work with third party MDMs. This made it very simple for us to deploy the Sametime mobile apps -- Chat and Meetings -- and get new capabilities such as Audio & Video mobilized quickly.
  • No down time, ever. The rock solid WebSphere back-end of Sametime means the environment is always up. Period.
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Cons
Discontinued Products
  • More cloud based services need to be added to the default service package.
  • Companies frequently require a small contact center within the UC environment. It would be nice to see a build it contact center in the box.
  • It would be nice to see some advanced AI based services (IVR voice recognition service) in the BE7K application list.
  • Call recording should be also built in.
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HCL Technologies
  • Not convenient for a large group meeting.
  • Very basic tool for internal communication only not available for third party communication
  • Very basic and limited mobile app features.
  • High speed connection is needed to connect to Sametime
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Likelihood to Renew
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is now an embedded experience for our users. They know it, they like it, they use it, and they expect it to be wherever they are. Because it is pretty easy to use and NEVER goes down, users know they can rely on it and won't be frustrated by it. Sametime is right up with there with Microsoft Office in terms of user adoption and appreciation.
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Usability
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Just about everything works the way you expect it would and it's relatively easy for users to figure out. Sametime was one of those things that we started with only a few people as a "test" and before the test period was done we discovered a few hundred people had figured out how to log in and most got it working all on their own. Many of our users want to use Sametime and do so regularly; we do not have to create policies enforcing its usage. Users find it practical to use Sametime to do things like chat, transfer files, share their screen, and so forth.
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Reliability and Availability
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Typically if Sametime is not available, it's because Windows Updates were done on the servers and they were not rebooted. However, that's not a problem with Sametime -- in fact, if you have Linux you could probably run Sametime for years without any hiccups whatsoever. We have no internal Linux expertise.
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Performance
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Generally very good. Occasionally AV or screen-sharing will stutter and every now and then I hear of it dropping out altogether, but in all cases it was easy to re-establish
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Support Rating
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
I have not needed to use the Sametime support team. Our local support team was able to configure it for me.
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Alternatives Considered
Discontinued Products
I've used 220s and 240s too, but it takes a lot of time to set them up, a lot of time to download the iso files, and set up of datastores. 7k saves the engineer a lot of pre-build assessment and evaluation time. Gets a lot done in a lot less time, returns are a happy engineer and a happier customer.
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HCL Technologies
We use Jabber globally in our company and Symphony (no relevant app in able list) in some of the teams as well. All these are instant messenger tools, but Sametime is the easiest one to be used and its chat history is easy to be searched. Sametime can be used to contact almost all internal staff as it’s included in default computer package. Symphony is used to chat with front end business while Jabber is used for call.
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Scalability
Discontinued Products
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HCL Technologies
Sametime is rock solid. It runs on WebSphere, DB2 and other related IBM technologies. This does mean the back-end is highly complex and very difficult to learn and get comfortable with, however.
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Return on Investment
Discontinued Products
  • It has allowed for mostly smooth communication from department to department/office to office.
  • It allows for saved phone # / last contact to appear quickly.
  • It has allowed for safety warnings/announcements to emerge all across every office so that everyone within the organization is on the same page about events when they occur.
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HCL Technologies
  • Sametime keeps many of our team members in contact throughout the day which leads to increased productivity which makes everyone happy.
  • We use the team chat room feature every day. This allows a team to stay focused on the task without any extra messages that are not on topic.
  • The split between IBM Sametime, Slack and Google Hangouts has caused some issues when team members are not checking for messages on a certain app.
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