Epicor Eclipse vs. SAP Cloud ERP

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor Eclipse
Score 7.6 out of 10
N/A
Epicor Eclipse is an end-to-end business system for wholesale distributors, as well as electrical, HVAC, plumbing and PVF businesses. Eclipse simplifies complex distribution processes found in today’s dynamic supply chains.N/A
SAP Cloud ERP
Score 8.6 out of 10
N/A
SAP Cloud ERP (SAP S/4HANA Cloud) is a modular ERP that enables users to run mission-critical operations in real time from anywhere, introduce new business models in any industry, and expand globally. SAP Cloud ERP is a SaaS product and can also be deployed in a hybrid landscape for quicker time to value.​ ​​ SAP Cloud ERP is a foundational component of theN/A
Pricing
Epicor EclipseSAP Cloud ERP
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor EclipseSAP Cloud ERP
Free Trial
NoYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeRequired
Additional DetailsPer user, per month
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Community Pulse
Epicor EclipseSAP Cloud ERP
Considered Both Products
Epicor Eclipse
Chose Epicor Eclipse
I wasn't involved in this process. We don't consider changing ERPs because our user base is too large, and it would take too many resources.
Chose Epicor Eclipse
I have not finished my comparison
Chose Epicor Eclipse
NetSuite ERP and Oracle Cloud Functions
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Most of my experience has been with Epicor's Prophet 21. For most distribution verticals, Prophet 21 is the only way to go. The comparison I've drawn is this: Prophet 21 is like a ferrari. Epicor Eclipse is like a reliable donkey. Both get you from point A to point B but …
Chose Epicor Eclipse
There aren't any better industry specific ones, but I have looked at Dynamics 365, SAP, Odoo, and others to see if a more robust, configurable, ERP could be customized to suit our industry. Not yet, but the balance is tipping away from Eclipse.
Chose Epicor Eclipse
The first company that I worked for in the wholesale industry had an in house ERP. This ERP, I thought at the time was really great. When I started using e-term, I realized that my first experience of an ERP was not as strong as it could have been.
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Since we have been on Eclipse for 13 years, our only comparison to other business systems is when training new employees and ask those new users their opinions during training. In general, nearly all new users of Solar Eclipse are impressed by the ease of use, ease of …
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Been using Eclipse for almost 20 years. It would take something major to make us look elsewhere.
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Epicor Eclipse was here when I started 2 years ago. SAP and Great Plains were used at previous employers. Epicor Eclipse versus the others, I would say that Eclipse has the edge in terms of the learning curve for new employees because of how easy it is to use. However, it is …
Chose Epicor Eclipse
Eclipse is more user friendly
SAP Cloud ERP
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
The decision is made by the supervisor. However, we can live with that because the impact on the business is manageable. It’s not a bad idea to be prepared now, because the cloud is the future.
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
Autonomous Enterprise looks promising but it stands to see what comes next
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
SAP Business Technology Platform
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
We have had SAP ERP in use for a long time.
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
Dynamics was simply not prepared for our type of business. Also, our users were already familiarized with SAP.
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
We select it because it is a world cloud solution
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
Functionality and integration are better in SAP but the price is too high.
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
Because I find more partners and potential support with SAP Cloud ERP.
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
SAP Cloud ERP is more scalable across n business scenarios.
Chose SAP Cloud ERP
SAP Cloud ERP is best for manufactuing
Features
Epicor EclipseSAP Cloud ERP
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.8
Ratings
5% above category average
SAP Cloud ERP
8.1
Ratings
8% above category average
Pay calculation8.10 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Benefit plan administration8.10 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Direct deposit files8.10 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.5
Ratings
15% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
7.7
Ratings
2% above category average
API for custom integration6.10 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Plug-ins6.80 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.1
Ratings
32% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
8.3
Ratings
1% below category average
Single sign-on capability5.60 Ratings8.50 Ratings
Role-based user permissions6.70 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
5.2
Ratings
36% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
7.7
Ratings
3% above category average
Dashboards5.40 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Standard reports5.40 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Custom reports4.70 Ratings7.60 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.2
Ratings
7% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
8.2
Ratings
6% above category average
Accounts payable7.30 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Accounts receivable7.40 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Global Financial Support7.30 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers7.40 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations7.10 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Configurable Accounting7.00 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Standardized Processes7.00 Ratings8.30 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.5
Ratings
21% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
8.3
Ratings
4% above category average
Inventory tracking6.70 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Automatic reordering6.20 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Location management6.40 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.1
Ratings
11% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
8.2
Ratings
4% above category average
Pricing7.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Order entry8.30 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Credit card processing6.90 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Cost of goods sold6.70 Ratings8.30 Ratings
Order Orchestration7.40 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.0
Ratings
7% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
8.4
Ratings
11% above category average
Billing Management7.30 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management7.20 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management5.00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting5.00 Ratings7.40 Ratings
Period Close7.20 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
5.7
Ratings
28% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
-
Ratings
Budgeting and Forecasting6.80 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Costing7.20 Ratings00 Ratings
Cost Capture6.20 Ratings00 Ratings
Capital Project Management6.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance7.70 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition7.00 Ratings00 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.7
Ratings
6% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
9.3
Ratings
27% above category average
Project Planning and Scheduling6.60 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers7.20 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality7.30 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools7.00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
7.5
Ratings
0% above category average
SAP Cloud ERP
8.1
Ratings
8% above category average
Award Lifecycle Management6.10 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.3
Ratings
12% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
7.8
Ratings
10% above category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared7.40 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Contract Authoring7.00 Ratings7.80 Ratings
Contract Repository6.20 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated7.00 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Supplier Management7.10 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
5.9
Ratings
12% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
9.8
Ratings
38% above category average
Risk Repository6.60 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Control Management7.00 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments6.60 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Issue Detection7.20 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Remediation and Certification6.70 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
5.3
Ratings
27% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
7.9
Ratings
13% above category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization5.30 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management6.20 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management6.20 Ratings7.60 Ratings
Fulfillment Management6.50 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management6.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.3
Ratings
17% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
8.1
Ratings
8% above category average
Production Process Design7.20 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Production Management7.40 Ratings8.20 Ratings
Configuration Management7.90 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Work Execution8.00 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs8.30 Ratings8.10 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.1
Ratings
18% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
7.7
Ratings
6% above category average
Forecasting7.10 Ratings7.50 Ratings
Inventory Planning7.00 Ratings7.90 Ratings
Performance Monitoring6.10 Ratings7.70 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Eclipse
6.7
Ratings
9% below category average
SAP Cloud ERP
9.0
Ratings
20% above category average
Proposal Management7.90 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Product Master Data Management7.90 Ratings7.90 Ratings
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User Ratings
Epicor EclipseSAP Cloud ERP
Likelihood to Recommend
7.3
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8.4
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Likelihood to Renew
4.3
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9.1
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Usability
6.7
(0 ratings)
8.0
(0 ratings)
Availability
9.1
(0 ratings)
8.4
(0 ratings)
Performance
9.1
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9.1
(0 ratings)
Support Rating
5.5
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6.7
(0 ratings)
In-Person Training
9.1
(0 ratings)
7.2
(0 ratings)
Online Training
8.2
(0 ratings)
7.0
(0 ratings)
Implementation Rating
4.5
(0 ratings)
7.6
(0 ratings)
Configurability
4.5
(0 ratings)
8.3
(0 ratings)
Ease of integration
4.5
(0 ratings)
8.0
(0 ratings)
Product Scalability
4.5
(0 ratings)
7.5
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Vendor post-sale
8.2
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7.5
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Vendor pre-sale
7.3
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8.0
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User Testimonials
Epicor EclipseSAP Cloud ERP
Likelihood to Recommend
The capabilities, when combined with some of the integration offerings, make for a really nice platform. Coming from another company where we had several systems for processing inbound, outbound, e-commerce, sales, etc., it is nice to have everything contained in one system. makes communication within the company easier and teaching easier.
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SAP Cloud ERP is best suited for medium- to large-sized organizations seeking scalability, real-time insights, and standardized processes. It will help them streamline financial operations & core HR functions, optimize inventory management & procurement process. Its intelligent automation will help them automate repetitive, routine tasks and use machine learning for predictive analysis.
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Pros
  • Great for retail sales and it works well with ipads, scanners, credit card machines and was easy to implement.
  • Initial support, setting up Eclipse and ensuring that everything works correctly was a huge benefit. We were off running from the start.
  • Epicor has continuing education on its products and offers alternatives for things they cant do.
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  • Streamlining and Automating Processes:
  • Example: SAP S/4HANA Cloud helps in streamlining and automating various business processes, reducing manual efforts and errors. For instance, it can automate procurement processes, from purchase requisitions to supplier invoice processing, improving efficiency and reducing the risk of human error.
  • Enhanced User Experience and Interface:
  • Example: The system offers a user-friendly interface and enhanced user experience. It simplifies complex processes, making it easier for employees to navigate and use the system effectively. For example, the system might offer intuitive dashboards for sales teams to easily track customer orders and preferences.
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Cons
  • In my opinion, Epicor seems to want to sell add-on products constantly. They don't provide pricing at the beginning, but then rely on sticker shock and hidden costs (e.g. APIs)
  • There are times when we cannot figure out where numbers are coming from, especially costs. It would be nice if there was a way to see, in plain English, where a cost is coming from.
  • It seems unconscionable that we are unable to print financial statements to a pdf file.
  • In our experience, Support, which had been going well for a while, has become much less reliable and not very timely.
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  • The beginner's user-friendly UI can help learners learn easily, and it feels a bit complex.
  • Implementation of AI bot on common tasks.
  • There are no offline functionality that users can use remotely.
  • As the scalability of the products grows, they become more expensive.
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Likelihood to Renew
I use it every day and can't see a reason why I would stop unless I started a new job. If I were to leave my present position, the new job would be much more attractive if they were Eclipse users.
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SAP S/4HANA Cloud provides strong reliability, compliance, and integration for finance, procurement, and project management, which are core to business operations.
Its integration with analytics and AI platforms adds strategic value, making it difficult to replace.
However, there may be some challenges around licensing cost, customization flexibility, and dependency on specialized skill sets
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Usability
Epicor Eclipse has saved our organization from financial mismanagement, which could lead to operational inefficiencies. It has streamlined purchase orders and invoice processing, reducing instances of underpayment and overpayment. It has enhanced the segmentation of financial statements by store and by day, making it easier to track profitability.
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SAP Cloud ERP is a useful solution for automating and streamlining business processes. It offers modern technologies such as built-in AI, machine learning, and real-time data analytics. It offers multi-currency, multi-language support to manage international operations smoothly. It comes with a modern, role-based user interface that enhances your user experience and lets you perform tasks smoothly.
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Reliability and Availability
I haven't experienced any outages in the two years I have been using the system. It is always available as long as the computer is up. The only time I have seen it not be available was on occasions where we lost internet, or power and then we lost access to everything, not just Epicor Eclipse.
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Performance
Everything in this system moves fairly quickly, that may be in part because we are a small company with only 21 users on the system at a time, or it may just be a the way the Epicor Eclipse works for any size company with any number of users. I can only speak for what I know and say that it is fast for our purposes.
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Support Rating
The tier 1 support is trying, and sometimes they are successful. Sometimes they aren't. This topic isn't as black and white as the questions might suggest. Currently their Tier 1 support team is over seas, all items automatically go to Tier 1 and then when they can't help they either escalate it or tell me they need to check with someone else and they will get back to me. If they escalate me to Tier 2, then the issue comes back to the States and the support is usually at a higher knowledge/experience level and it can get resolved fairly quickly. If they don't escalate, then it might take weeks and multiple follow ups on my part before I either get a satisfactory resolution or finally get escalated.
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The support system I find great as whenever I run into problems they rectify them quickly as possible they never reacted late the support is just up to the mark for me. They provide many solutions to the problems I faced the [technical] team support is always amazing they [listen] to mean work accordingly.
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In-Person Training
The training classes that I have attended have been top notch. The presenters are extremely knowledgeable on their subject matter, including real-world application of the system. They aren't just software techs training end users, they seem to be end users that have become experts in the over functionality and capabilities of the system.
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Online Training
The on-line training is very good, and it is taught by the same people that do the live in-person training sessions. The difficult part of it is, asking questions about your specific company's nuances or special circumstances. I don't remember if you can access the on-line training sessions after you have taken them for reminders purposes, but if so that is a great asset.
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Implementation Rating
I don't really know about the implementation, it was back in 1998 and I didn't start here until 2016. By the time I started here they had been running it for a number of years and most of the people that were here when it was implemented are no longer here, and the ones that are don't really have much to say about how the implementation went either bad or good.
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SAP requires
a lot of internal and external resources to complete its successful
implementation. The cloud version requires a deeper understanding of the
different capabilities of the local systems (hardware) and the connection
towards your local IT team. We found several problems on our systems that we
couldn't foresee before the implementation and roll out.
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Alternatives Considered
Most of my experience has been with Epicor's Prophet 21. For most distribution verticals, Prophet 21 is the only way to go. The comparison I've drawn is this: Prophet 21 is like a ferrari. Epicor Eclipse is like a reliable donkey. Both get you from point A to point B but Prophet 21 is going to get you there much quicker and with the kind of insight into your business that will help you thrive.
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The platform utilizes advanced predictive analytics to anticipate operational bottlenecks and put them out of commission before the problems become larger. We can proactively develop effective strategies that help keep service quality in the face of unexpected changes in the market, or external disruptions, by continuously analyzing historical performance data as well as elements of the current market
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Scalability
I don't really know about the scalability. It's the same as it was when I started, I do know that you can buy more user licenses, but I think they come in packs of 5, which can be a problem if you only need 1 and will never use the other 4. But, again I'm not sure on that.
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Return on Investment
  • Reporting features allow tracking items trending downward which can glut inventory space and dollars if not adjusted
  • GMROI reports help analyze turn ratios and adjusted dollar values and margins of product lines.
  • Suggested Purchase Order features allowed controlled inventory purchases which avoid lost sales while managing overall dollars invested in an acquired product with the lowest freight costs possible.
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  • Use of SAP S/4HANA Cloud has helped us process data and make decisions more quickly and effectively.
  • SAP S/4HANA cloud has helped us identify potential problems in our organization.
  • SAP S/4HANA has helped us finish tasks faster, with fewer mistakes, which ensures excellent service delivery.
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ScreenShots

SAP Cloud ERP Screenshots

Screenshot of the Order to Cash Dashboard - For the management of the order-to-cash process more efficiently across revenue streams and business models - including sales of physical and digital goods, services, subscriptions, projects, and bundles.Screenshot of a Sales Management Overview - Helps ensure sales reps meet their goals with an overview of orders and key sales performance metrics, with status tracking for each order in real time for the early detection of potential issues.Screenshot of the Purchasing Spend Dashboard - For weighing various aspects of purchasing spend through quick access to clear, complete, and real-time data, with less risk, and without opening different reports and transactions.Screenshot of Operational Supplier Evaluation - Provides a transparent overview of suppliers. Users can approve the most reliable vendors and get the right mix to serve business needs while reducing risk.Screenshot of Inventory Management - Provides visibility to manage supply chains, to mitigate risk, avoid unnecessary costs, maximize efficiency, and fulfill customer orders on time.Screenshot of Inventory Processing - Enables real-time supply chain visibility and provides meaningful metrics, with customizable dashboards and reports that display real-time inventory that track the status of inbound and outbound deliveries.