ibi WebFOCUS vs. Infor Birst

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
ibi WebFOCUS
Score 7.0 out of 10
N/A
The ibi™ WebFOCUS® product is an enterprise business intelligence and analytics solution equipped with data management, visual discovery, predictive analytics, and visualizations. Combining these capabilities and data science in one unified containerized platform, the WebFOCUS® solution can be used to make data-driven decisions across the enterprise and provide reports, dashboards, and customer-facing applications at scale.N/A
Infor Birst
Score 3.8 out of 10
N/A
Infor Birst offers multi-tenant cloud BI for deployment in a public or private cloud, or on-premises. It provides an in-memory columnar data store and a BI layer comprising a reporting engine, predictive analytics tools, mobile native apps, dashboards, discovery tools, and an open client interface.
$30,000
Per 20 Users Per Year
Pricing
ibi WebFOCUSInfor Birst
Editions & Modules
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Basic License
$30,000
Per 20 Users Per Year
Offerings
Pricing Offerings
ibi WebFOCUSInfor Birst
Free Trial
NoYes
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoYes
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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Community Pulse
ibi WebFOCUSInfor Birst
Considered Both Products
ibi WebFOCUS
Chose ibi WebFOCUS
Above average. Feature wise [Information Builders WebFOCUS] stands out. User friendliness is OK. It can handle the most complex tasks and its extensions with for example R make it extremely versatile. Support is lagging in western Europe, although i am more than happy with …
Infor Birst
Chose Infor Birst
During the vetting process, we looked at 14 different products (one of them internal) to see if they would fit our needs and whittled it down to this one over a three month period. We did not contact sales for all of them (sales sites were enough to rule out some), but did have …
Chose Infor Birst
Integration with Salesforce was a big factor. Showed we could be up and running quickly.
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Features
ibi WebFOCUSInfor Birst
BI Standard Reporting
Comparison of BI Standard Reporting features of Product A and Product B
ibi WebFOCUS
7.7
11 Ratings
6% below category average
Infor Birst
7.4
77 Ratings
10% below category average
Pixel Perfect reports7.06 Ratings7.068 Ratings
Customizable dashboards9.011 Ratings8.077 Ratings
Report Formatting Templates7.011 Ratings7.159 Ratings
Ad-hoc Reporting
Comparison of Ad-hoc Reporting features of Product A and Product B
ibi WebFOCUS
9.3
13 Ratings
14% above category average
Infor Birst
7.0
78 Ratings
14% below category average
Drill-down analysis8.013 Ratings8.078 Ratings
Formatting capabilities10.013 Ratings7.077 Ratings
Integration with R or other statistical packages9.08 Ratings6.127 Ratings
Report sharing and collaboration10.012 Ratings7.068 Ratings
Report Output and Scheduling
Comparison of Report Output and Scheduling features of Product A and Product B
ibi WebFOCUS
8.2
11 Ratings
2% below category average
Infor Birst
8.0
75 Ratings
4% below category average
Publish to Web10.09 Ratings8.052 Ratings
Publish to PDF8.09 Ratings8.067 Ratings
Report Versioning6.010 Ratings7.28 Ratings
Report Delivery Scheduling10.011 Ratings9.066 Ratings
Delivery to Remote Servers7.03 Ratings00 Ratings
Data Discovery and Visualization
Comparison of Data Discovery and Visualization features of Product A and Product B
ibi WebFOCUS
6.3
10 Ratings
24% below category average
Infor Birst
6.9
72 Ratings
15% below category average
Pre-built visualization formats (heatmaps, scatter plots etc.)6.08 Ratings8.072 Ratings
Location Analytics / Geographic Visualization7.09 Ratings7.058 Ratings
Predictive Analytics6.07 Ratings5.833 Ratings
Access Control and Security
Comparison of Access Control and Security features of Product A and Product B
ibi WebFOCUS
9.0
11 Ratings
5% above category average
Infor Birst
8.3
72 Ratings
3% below category average
Multi-User Support (named login)8.011 Ratings9.070 Ratings
Role-Based Security Model10.011 Ratings8.068 Ratings
Multiple Access Permission Levels (Create, Read, Delete)10.011 Ratings8.069 Ratings
Single Sign-On (SSO)8.04 Ratings00 Ratings
Mobile Capabilities
Comparison of Mobile Capabilities features of Product A and Product B
ibi WebFOCUS
5.9
11 Ratings
30% below category average
Infor Birst
5.0
54 Ratings
46% below category average
Responsive Design for Web Access9.011 Ratings7.052 Ratings
Mobile Application3.32 Ratings3.034 Ratings
Dashboard / Report / Visualization Interactivity on Mobile8.08 Ratings3.042 Ratings
Application Program Interfaces (APIs) / Embedding
Comparison of Application Program Interfaces (APIs) / Embedding features of Product A and Product B
ibi WebFOCUS
8.6
3 Ratings
9% above category average
Infor Birst
-
Ratings
REST API10.01 Ratings00 Ratings
Javascript API8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
iFrames8.02 Ratings00 Ratings
Themeable User Interface (UI)8.03 Ratings00 Ratings
Customizable Platform (Open Source)9.01 Ratings00 Ratings
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User Ratings
ibi WebFOCUSInfor Birst
Likelihood to Recommend
7.0
(16 ratings)
8.0
(96 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
8.6
(5 ratings)
9.0
(35 ratings)
Usability
8.0
(3 ratings)
9.0
(12 ratings)
Availability
9.0
(1 ratings)
4.1
(6 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
7.5
(6 ratings)
Support Rating
7.0
(3 ratings)
6.0
(19 ratings)
In-Person Training
-
(0 ratings)
9.1
(4 ratings)
Online Training
6.0
(1 ratings)
8.0
(2 ratings)
Implementation Rating
8.0
(1 ratings)
5.3
(6 ratings)
Configurability
-
(0 ratings)
7.0
(2 ratings)
Ease of integration
-
(0 ratings)
5.0
(2 ratings)
Product Scalability
-
(0 ratings)
6.0
(2 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
-
(0 ratings)
5.0
(2 ratings)
Vendor pre-sale
-
(0 ratings)
7.0
(2 ratings)
User Testimonials
ibi WebFOCUSInfor Birst
Likelihood to Recommend
IBI (Information Builders)
I would less recommend it because it looks like IBI is receding a bit from the European market. I would not be certain for future support. Knowledge in the market in western Europe is limited Functional wise the application suits almost all situations. I would for sure recommend it purely based on its capabilities
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Infor
Birst is well suited for an organization looking for a cloud-hosted analytics solution that is contained within one package. It is able to connect to a very wide variety of different data sources, and has options for either light or involved ETL procedures, depending on the users experience with preparing data. As with any BI project, it would not be suitable for an organization where there is no dedicated team to maintain and manage the project.
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Pros
IBI (Information Builders)
  • One thing that has always been good at WebFOCUS is how they interact with the customer on items. They take suggestions and implement them. In addition technical support is timely and very detailed.
  • I think they keep up with and lead in implementing new technologies in the BI space. One case of this are the ability for user to create their own easy dashboard using the green plus buttons. Also the ability to link d3 into and have the ability to implement new types of graphs is nice.
  • I have been to a spoke at one of their user conferences and they are worth going to. In addition to all of the great seminars the interaction you get with vendors and other users is key in the growth of your knowledge. I've learned so much for my time at these conferences.
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Infor
  • Birst is an platform that provides connectors to some of the applications we use, but also allows us to bring in data from disparate systems to perform ETL and integrate all of the data for analyses. It makes no assumptions about your data, which is good for us, as we have a lot of customizations to many of our systems.
  • Birst is making inroads towards a more modern UI.
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Cons
IBI (Information Builders)
  • The newest versions of WebFOCUS have an unnecessarily complicated security layout that makes configuration difficult to accomplish without bringing in the vendor for installs.
  • This software tries to cover too many bases allowing you to switch from writing code manually to creating reports using only GUI tools. This sometimes complicates screens and functionality where the two methods don't always work well together. -though its nice to have the choice.
  • The sales force is not as top notch as many software companies
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Infor
  • Birst prices are fairly expensive. License plus cost of users can add up pretty quickly
  • Depending on the size of data, rendering of reports can take a little bit. Need faster processing of data
  • Takes a little time to understand how to build reports, not the most intuitive UI
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Likelihood to Renew
IBI (Information Builders)
This software is deeply engrained with my organization and has become a tool that would not easily be replaced without spending more money and resources to get the same results. License cost is comparable to other report writing tools and the capabilities are greater than the competition without having to buy multiple apps to do the same thing.
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Infor
We have been able to overcome any of the drawbacks we've found with Birst easily and it has fulfilled almost all of our analytic needs to date. Having seen their roadmap it would be highly unlikely we would move away from this platform any time soon. You simply can't beat the functionality that Birst provides for the price and the things I see coming out of the company solidify that our decision to choose Birst was the best possible choice. We have never regretted the decision.
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Usability
IBI (Information Builders)
Best BI tool/product I have used. The others don't compare overall. Some can look fancier, but when you actually use them with large data and data from numerous systems/sources that is where most of the competition falls away. I also don't like downtime. I have basically none for a large user base with WebFocus. Even SAP Crystal Reports went down for 4 days once - 4 days because the admin password got locked out due to a glitch and we had zero reports for 4 days. WebFocus has never had more than a few minutes of downtime. It's like a tank that just keeps rolling. There is no other choice for reliable BI.
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Infor
I would like to see additional usability put into the ETL scripting. Recently, Birst added a nice function reference inline to formula creation which has kept me from having to return to documentation so much. The same in ETL would be very beneficial. The interface problems related to the Flex framework are being addressed in a rewrite to HTML 5, but for now they are still a hindrance to a higher usability rating.
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Reliability and Availability
IBI (Information Builders)
Tracking availability formally for almost two years and we are at 99.8%
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Infor
We frequently experience -103 errors due to us using the Live Connect functionality, which does not seem to handle even minor interruptions in connectivity, and treats all future connection attempts or data requests as errors, even if the issue does not exist any longer
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Performance
IBI (Information Builders)
No answers on this topic
Infor
Everything runs very fast and smoothly. The only process that I wish was faster would be processing the data after uploading new data or making changes to the existing data model. It can take 15-20 minutes (roughly) to upload and process new data once you start getting into 10's of millions of rows. Given my experience with how long it takes me to pull the same data using SQL Server Management Studio, I don't think Birst is unreasonably slow - but for me to give a higher rating, I would want it to be unreasonably fast
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Support Rating
IBI (Information Builders)
They have extremely knowledgeable techs that I have worked with over the years. Some have actually become really good friends of mine. I see them often at local user groups and when we show them how we are using their tools to save millions of dollars throughout the company
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Infor
When we have an issue that is stopping our business from proceeding, I want answers sooner than later. While Birst does have a published response time for each case level, we always wish it could be quicker. What response improvement could there be with a larger support team? In response to first question: Blackhole of issues - Birst needs to improve upon closing issues that resolution was dependent upon code fixes or enhancements, perhaps someone to add a comment on all case tickets at least every 60 days. Escalation - I always have the ability to electronically or via phone escalate a ticket. I also have my Customer Success Manager through whom I can escalate topics.
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In-Person Training
IBI (Information Builders)
No answers on this topic
Infor
I have attended two different training sessions. The first one was my initial training on the system. It was well paced, clear and concise. If there were questions that were not able to be answered by the instructor, he took down the question and actually followed up and provided us a response quickly. The second session was specific to the dashboard and report design components. This training was very good though there were some attendants who had little or no experience and their questions slowed the class.
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Online Training
IBI (Information Builders)
It's hit and miss, the last class was overcrowded and people were having trouble connecting which took up much of the time. Instructors vary
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Infor
Although I found the online resources helpful, a lack of appropriate examples for certain tasks key to report creation and advanced modeling make the online training/documentation less than perfect. For an inexperienced BI professional, the online training would not enable a streamlined launch of the product.
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Implementation Rating
IBI (Information Builders)
Plan ahead on what data will be accessible and the type of security required on the database and if you will want to use security that is built into the software. It is worth consulting with the vendor on what your plan is and how they recommend you proceed in order to get results you are happy with.
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Infor
Have clean data! Birst flexibility allows - Start small, then introduce functionality and complexity along the way. If you try to present all the functionality [bells and whistles] and wow them, but bad data is uncovered, the end user blames the new application and turns away.
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Alternatives Considered
IBI (Information Builders)
Webfocus handles the side of our business that is involved with our catalogs. Our catalogs is a huge revenue driver for us and this tool has been extremely useful with planning feature catalogs. Tableau is used more for marketing and merchandising purchases since we can filter data based on website sales.
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Infor
During the vetting process, we looked at 14 different products (one of them internal) to see if they would fit our needs and whittled it down to this one over a three month period. We did not contact sales for all of them (sales sites were enough to rule out some), but did have a lot of demos with a significant portion of them and reviewed several of the major industry studies as well. We had representatives of both user interests/design and the technical backend on the evaluation process.
The major features we were looking for a product that we could embed inside our own SaaS application, connect to a sharded Postgres database, had multitenancy and allowed for customer generated reports/ self-reporting. Some of the minor "nice to have" features we were looking at was scheduled reports, especially if we could plug it into our own scheduling system (for CAN-SPAM compliance), internationalization, and support.
In the evaluation, Birst hit all of the must-haves and enough of the nice to haves that they made it down to our final two and the trial was the clincher to make it our final choice.
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Scalability
IBI (Information Builders)
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Infor
we can see that loading a lot of data can cause a noticable slow down in performance. Birst support indicated that they don't really consider anything less than 30 seconds to be an issue, but that is not the case for our customers, so we have had to change some of implementation to address this
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Return on Investment
IBI (Information Builders)
  • We are not yet a success story. Though we've been implementing WebFOCUS for over a year, we have very few products in our Production portal. Of course, this is not all the responsibility of Information Builders, but we were ill-advised by our 'training coordinator' in our training of staff and coming up to speed with the tools has been very slow.
  • Once skilled analysts and professional IT staff achieve a grasp of the products, they are able to very quickly create polished and well-received products.
  • The DW/BI project has helped us to establish standards and protocols of communication that will allow us to more quickly meet knowledge transfer requirements
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Infor
  • Being a manufacturing company we tend to lag behind technologically. But having all the data for different ERP systems in one place has been an eye opener for the executives. It has lessened the need to convert some legacy ERP systems.
  • Having such a simple reporting tool is a great asset to some of our sites that have traditionally had trouble gathering data from AS400 systems.
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