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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Pentaho

    Score6 out of 10
    N/APentaho is a suite of open source business intelligence and analytics products, now offered and supported by Hitachi Data Systems since the June 2015 acquisition.N/A

    ScienceLogic AI Platform

    Score8.2 out of 10
    Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
    ScienceLogic provides a unified IT Operations platform designed to manage operational workflows using high-fidelity Telemetry Data and explainable automation. The ScienceLogic AI Platform is deployable across On-Premises, Cloud, and Hybrid Environments. The platform consolidates monitoring tools to provide Observability and enables engineers to automate manual processes using Machine Learning capabilities. The platform utilizes automation for Closed-Loop Remediation and provides insights…N/A
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    PentahoScienceLogic AI Platform
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    PentahoScienceLogic AI Platform
    Free Trial
    NoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
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    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoYes
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeRequired
    Additional Details—ScienceLogic SL1 offers four tiers: SL1 Advanced – Application Health, Automated Troubleshooting and Remediation Workflows SL1 Base – Infrastructure Monitoring, Topology & Event Correlation SL1 Premium – AI/ML-driven Analytics, Low-Code Automated Workflow Authoring SL1 Standard – Infrastructure Monitoring – with Agents, Business Services, Incident Automation, CMDB Synchronization, Behavioral Correlation
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    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
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    Would buy again
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    Would buy again
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    Delivers good value for the price
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    Delivers good value for the price
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    91%
    Delivers good value for the price
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    Happy with the feature set
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    92%
    Happy with the feature set
    86 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
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    85%
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    Implementation went as expected
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    Features
    PentahoScienceLogic AI Platform
    BI Standard Reporting
    Comparison of BI Standard Reporting features of Pentaho and ScienceLogic AI Platform
    Feature
    Pentaho
    9.0
    20 Ratings
    10% above category average
    ScienceLogic AI Platform
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    Pixel Perfect reports8.618 Ratings00 Ratings
    Customizable dashboards9.918 Ratings00 Ratings
    Report Formatting Templates8.718 Ratings00 Ratings
    Ad-hoc Reporting
    Comparison of Ad-hoc Reporting features of Pentaho and ScienceLogic AI Platform
    Feature
    Pentaho
    8.7
    19 Ratings
    8% above category average
    ScienceLogic AI Platform
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    Drill-down analysis7.618 Ratings00 Ratings
    Formatting capabilities8.319 Ratings00 Ratings
    Integration with R or other statistical packages9.312 Ratings00 Ratings
    Report sharing and collaboration9.717 Ratings00 Ratings
    Report Output and Scheduling
    Comparison of Report Output and Scheduling features of Pentaho and ScienceLogic AI Platform
    Feature
    Pentaho
    9.7
    20 Ratings
    17% above category average
    ScienceLogic AI Platform
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    Publish to Web9.618 Ratings00 Ratings
    Publish to PDF9.819 Ratings00 Ratings
    Report Versioning9.713 Ratings00 Ratings
    Report Delivery Scheduling9.917 Ratings00 Ratings
    Delivery to Remote Servers9.310 Ratings00 Ratings
    Data Discovery and Visualization
    Comparison of Data Discovery and Visualization features of Pentaho and ScienceLogic AI Platform
    Feature
    Pentaho
    8.1
    17 Ratings
    1% above category average
    ScienceLogic AI Platform
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    Pre-built visualization formats (heatmaps, scatter plots etc.)7.916 Ratings00 Ratings
    Location Analytics / Geographic Visualization8.216 Ratings00 Ratings
    Predictive Analytics8.314 Ratings00 Ratings
    Access Control and Security
    Comparison of Access Control and Security features of Pentaho and ScienceLogic AI Platform
    Feature
    Pentaho
    9.1
    20 Ratings
    7% above category average
    ScienceLogic AI Platform
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    Multi-User Support (named login)9.320 Ratings00 Ratings
    Role-Based Security Model9.619 Ratings00 Ratings
    Multiple Access Permission Levels (Create, Read, Delete)9.918 Ratings00 Ratings
    Single Sign-On (SSO)7.610 Ratings00 Ratings
    Mobile Capabilities
    Comparison of Mobile Capabilities features of Pentaho and ScienceLogic AI Platform
    Feature
    Pentaho
    8.3
    11 Ratings
    7% above category average
    ScienceLogic AI Platform
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    Responsive Design for Web Access9.710 Ratings00 Ratings
    Mobile Application6.97 Ratings00 Ratings
    Dashboard / Report / Visualization Interactivity on Mobile8.711 Ratings00 Ratings
    Application Program Interfaces (APIs) / Embedding
    Comparison of Application Program Interfaces (APIs) / Embedding features of Pentaho and ScienceLogic AI Platform
    Feature
    Pentaho
    8.6
    10 Ratings
    10% above category average
    ScienceLogic AI Platform
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    REST API8.310 Ratings00 Ratings
    Javascript API9.09 Ratings00 Ratings
    iFrames7.39 Ratings00 Ratings
    Java API8.79 Ratings00 Ratings
    Themeable User Interface (UI)8.910 Ratings00 Ratings
    Customizable Platform (Open Source)9.610 Ratings00 Ratings
    AIOps Features
    Comparison of AIOps Features features of Pentaho and ScienceLogic AI Platform
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    Pentaho
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    ScienceLogic AI Platform
    7.6
    26 Ratings
    0% below category average
    Monitoring and Alerting00 Ratings8.225 Ratings
    Performance Analytics00 Ratings7.826 Ratings
    Incident Management00 Ratings6.626 Ratings
    Service Desk Integration00 Ratings7.525 Ratings
    Root Cause Analysis00 Ratings7.721 Ratings
    Capacity Planning Tool00 Ratings7.222 Ratings
    Configuration and Change Management00 Ratings7.723 Ratings
    Automated Remediation00 Ratings7.620 Ratings
    Collaboration and Communication00 Ratings7.920 Ratings
    Threat Intelligence00 Ratings7.319 Ratings
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    Qlik Cloud Analytics (Qlik Sense)
    Score8.1 out of 10
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    Enterprises
    Sisense
    Score6.9 out of 10
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    User Ratings
    PentahoScienceLogic AI Platform
    Likelihood to Recommend
    9.1
    (31 ratings)
    8.0
    (228 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    8.8
    (11 ratings)
    8.5
    (24 ratings)
    Usability
    9.3
    (6 ratings)
    9.6
    (15 ratings)
    Availability
    -
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    9.2
    (14 ratings)
    Performance
    -
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    8.2
    (14 ratings)
    Support Rating
    9.3
    (7 ratings)
    6.6
    (20 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    -
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    8.8
    (6 ratings)
    Online Training
    9.5
    (2 ratings)
    7.7
    (8 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    5.0
    (1 ratings)
    6.4
    (99 ratings)
    Configurability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    10.0
    (7 ratings)
    Data Sharing and Collaboration
    8.4
    (16 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Data Sources
    8.6
    (16 ratings)
    -
    (0 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    -
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    8.0
    (15 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    -
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    8.0
    (1 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
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    9.1
    (7 ratings)
    Vendor pre-sale
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    8.3
    (7 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    PentahoScienceLogic AI Platform
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Hitachi Vantara
    Pentaho is very well suited to perform data extraction & data mining from various cloud storage & transform that data using various available data models. However, the software struggles when it comes to visualizing the extracted data in an appealing manner & can be difficult for end-users to get an understanding of data tables created using those models.
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    ScienceLogic
    For Windows, the issue is in higher resource consumption related to WinRM monitoring, which provides better options then the SNMP monitoring, which on the other hand is less resource intensive. The problem is also with support for OS with other than English language.
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    Pros
    Hitachi Vantara
    • Integrate and synchronize with big data easily
    • Import data from any sources and different databases
    • Managing data in on-premise, hybrid and cloud environments.
    • Compatibility and flexibility of the platform with any type of scenario and any business or industry
    • Various tools in the software suite to transformation of data
    • Simple interface appearance and creative UI graphics
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    ScienceLogic
    • Best overall coverage of montioring different technologies.
    • Easy to use in any environment
    • Customizable being able to generate your own reports, dashboards, DA's, RBA's, etc.
    • Have very good out of the box integrations with other monitoring solutions such as ServiceNow
    • Always improving and regularly releasing new versions and upgrades to the system/DA's.
    • Interactive community
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    Cons
    Hitachi Vantara
    • I think the relative obscurity of the tool is a downside, not as many developers, consultants or peers you can tap into.
    • Lack of a solid user community held us back, looking at Power BI and Qlik, they have huge user communities that help each other out. Would have liked that here.
    • Smaller company means smaller sales force, and the lack of a local presence made it hard to only interact online with the account rep. Other companies have someone local who often stops by with pre-sales developers to just pitch in free of charge when they have time.
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    ScienceLogic
    • Dashboards are quite old and are of Iron age. Need to have AP2 dashboards only instead of AP1 and consistent new design across all functionalities.
    • Reporting is not improved since Y2020 and need to revamp completely. Need to integrate Dashboards and Reporting. PowerBI Like functionality to be given OOTB. Reports should be extracted in Excel, PDF, HTML and should be heavily automated.
    • Create and Open APIs for basic and advanced monitoring data extraction.
    • Topology based Event Correlation and Suppression should be improved drastically. Need to identify critical network interfaces based on Topology and monitor them. Basic customization of Dynamic App and/or Powerpack to exclude/include certain metrics/events to be permitted OOTB instead of customizations.
    • Integration with ServiceNow to be improved and to be taken to next level. Automation Powerpack should be made available OOTB as part of base product and to be priced attractively.
    • Take product to next level where we can monitor actual impacted IT or Business Service instead of metrics and events BSM and Topology map to be auto discovered and identify the network dependencies and alternate paths automatically instead of manual creation of BSM.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Hitachi Vantara
    I will use Pentaho until I find a better tool with a better, easier to use report designer client. For now, Pentaho has been the most powerful reporting tool for our clients because of its ability to connect to Odoo, integrate in Odoo (reports are accessible in Odoo) and the flexibility in report design and parameter integration
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    ScienceLogic
    It is simply because of all the best possible autonomy solutions it is providing and getting better day by day. Using AI and Devops along with handy automation, The monitoring and Management of devices becomes much easier and the way it is growing in all the aspects is one the best reasons too. Evolution of the SL1 platform in the autonomy monitoring and management is quite appreciable.
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    Usability
    Hitachi Vantara
    The Pentaho tools are designed so you can start playing around on your own. Of course, you will need guidance at some point, but the training teams are good at guiding new users, and the online documentation is usually pretty up-to-date.
    Some of the tools, such as the Pentaho Data Integration tool and the Pentaho Server, are pretty self-explanatory. The other tools maybe are not so quickly and obvious to use, but again, with some documentation and some customer support, you can find your way around them.
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    ScienceLogic
    The core functions are there.
    The complexity is due to the complexity of the space.
    The score is based on comfort (I no longer notice the legacy UI) and the promise that I see in the 8.12 Unified UI (a vast improvement).
    It is also based on the fact that with 8.12, you can now do everything in the new UI but you still have the legacy UI as a fallback (which should now be unnecessary for new installations)
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    Reliability and Availability
    Hitachi Vantara
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    ScienceLogic
    SL is always there and online when you need to get info from it. The only times when SL was not available in our own data center, was when network links from out side of the data center was down and those links were not in our controll. Having a central database and people accessing it all over the world, may put a bit of constarin on the performance of the dashboards when reports gets generated, but that is far and few n between.
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    Performance
    Hitachi Vantara
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    ScienceLogic
    SceinceLogic SL1 architecture helps the platform to give a top-notch performance in every respect, Data collection to reporting happens very smoothly. With the new user interface pages load much faster. Individual appliances carrying the individual task ensure things are working without lag. Integration with ticketing tool(SNOW) is well managed by the ScienceLogic, no issue or much delay has been observed while interacting with an external tool.
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    Support Rating
    Hitachi Vantara
    They were responsive to our questions when we raised issues. They gave us workarounds when required. They were quite knowledgeable when it came to issue analysis and providing fixes. They were forthright in informing us if a bug was not due for release soon.
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    ScienceLogic
    So far, it's good as part of my overall experience, except for a couple of use cases. The support team is well knowledgeable, has technical sound, and is efficient. When support escalates to engineering, the issue gets stuck and takes months to resolve.
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    In-Person Training
    Hitachi Vantara
    No answers on this topic
    ScienceLogic
    It was good, Do the online training first and understand it and you will get the most out of the in-person training that way. This also takes you to an advanced level which is very good and the training as been overhauled once again along with new product coming in such as Zebruim / Skylar, worth going through again if it a while back that you first did this.
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    Online Training
    Hitachi Vantara
    Course Taken: DI1000 Pentaho Data Integration Fundamentals Setup A week before your class started, the instructor will start sending out class material and lab setup instructions. This is helpful so that you understand how the environment is laid out and can start reviewing the content. Ultimately it saved about a 1/2 day trying to setup with 10 other people online which was great! The Course The 3-day course was laid out like many other technical classes with 15-30 minutes instruction and 15-60 minutes of lab exercises. The instructor was very knowledgeable with the functionality from version to version and answered questions as we went along. I was amazed at some of the functionality that was available that I was not using at the time and quickly implemented changes to many existing transformations and jobs. The novice users seemed to catch on quickly and more experienced users explained how some of the functionality was used in their home environments. Towards the end there was enough time so that we were able to ask very directed questions about our own environments. Overall, I really found the class to be informative and deliver enough information to be dangerous. My skills improved and I was able to design better and efficient transformations for the HIE. Course Description: https://training.pentaho.com/instructor-led-training/pentaho-data-integration-fundamentals-di1000
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    ScienceLogic
    There are a lot of educational materials and courses on the SL1 training site (Litmos university). However the recording quality is sometimes not very good - screen resolution is low. There is a lack of professional rather than user-oriented documents and there are mistakes in documentation and education is not well structured.
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    Implementation Rating
    Hitachi Vantara
    Get the right people in before starting implementation. Start small and build as you go approach is time consuming and involves lot of rework. Evangalize within the organization the capabilities and limitations equally so that correct delivery expectations are set. Set expectations with the Customer that the tool cannot replace proprietary software in terms of stability/usability and that timelines could change given the new ness of the product.
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    ScienceLogic
    Implementation is smooth if we are to just support the out-of-the-box features available in ScienceLogic. For any custom requirement, having to go to SL1 Professional Services is the worst part of procuring this suite. And more often than not, SL1 Professional Services also ask to raise feature request. So, you subscribe to Professional Services to only hear back from them that "This feature is not supported and needs to have a separate feature request". At times frustrating.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Hitachi Vantara
    Since the Pentaho platform offers a range of broad functionality across data preparation and advanced analytics, it also can be easily integrated to support many data sources and machine-learning frameworks. Based on that fact, we selected Pentaho to be used in our internal department. It also supports many of our BI use cases as required by company management or the business user. Last but not least, the Pentaho license is cheaper than their competitor.
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    ScienceLogic
    Science logic SL1 is so user friendly and it's really easy to navigate between function. I would recommend Sciene logic SL1 to all of them who are looking for really useful monitoring tool and expecting easy way of managing it.
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    Scalability
    Hitachi Vantara
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    ScienceLogic
    Our deployment model is vastly different from product expectations. Our global / internal monitoring foot print is 8 production stacks in dual data centers with 50% collection capacity allocated to each data center with minimal numbers of collection groups. General Collection is our default collection group. Special Collection is for monitoring our ASA and other hardware that cannot be polled by a large number of IP addresses, so this collection group is usually 2 collectors). Because most of our stacks are in different physical data centers, we cannot use the provided HA solution. We have to use the DR solution (DRBD + CNAMEs). We routinely test power in our data centers (yearly). Because we have to use DR, we have a hand-touch to flip nodes and change the DNS CNAME half of the times when there is an outage (by design). When the outage is planned, we do this ahead of the outage so that we don't care that the Secondary has dropped away from the Primary. Hopefully, we'll be able to find a way to meet our constraints and improve our resiliency and reduce our hand-touch in future releases. For now, this works for us and our complexity. (I hear that the HA option is sweet. I just can't consume that.)
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    Return on Investment
    Hitachi Vantara
    • Pentaho has improved our overall business process.
    • Pentaho has helped the Managers and Directors to analyze the numbers going up and down from time to time.
    • We have a started a big project using Pentaho that is going to include all the business processes in the organization.
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    ScienceLogic
    • Once a powerpack is developed and configured for a device for one customer, it is easy to deploy the same powerpack on a second customer estate and configure specifically for that customer without having to reinvent the powerpack. This saves time and therefore money.
    • Once the customer estate tuning is complete, the Operations team have come trust the alerts. This is especially true when transient or self-correcting alerts are automatically cleared without ops team involvement, but a record is still available for audit and debugging purposes. This saves time and therefore money.
    • When setup correctly, it provides good visibility into applications, devices and whole customer estates. This saves time and therefore money when issues arise.
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    ScienceLogic AI Platform Screenshots

    Screenshot of Unified Observability and Contextual IntelligenceScreenshot of Relationship Mapping & Service VisibilityScreenshot of ITSM and Collaboration IntegrationsScreenshot of Low-Code Workflow BuilderScreenshot of Dynamic Application DevelopmentScreenshot of Executive Overview Dashboard