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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    A10 Thunder ADC

    Score8 out of 10
    N/AA10 Networks offers their application delivery controller, Thunder ADC.N/A

    ScienceLogic AI Platform

    Score8.2 out of 10
    Enterprise companies (1,001+ employees)
    ScienceLogic provides a unified IT Operations platform designed to manage operational workflows using high-fidelity Telemetry Data and explainable automation. The ScienceLogic AI Platform is deployable across On-Premises, Cloud, and Hybrid Environments. The platform consolidates monitoring tools to provide Observability and enables engineers to automate manual processes using Machine Learning capabilities. The platform utilizes automation for Closed-Loop Remediation and provides insights…N/A

    SolarWinds Engineer's Toolset

    Score7.6 out of 10
    N/ASolarWinds® Engineer’s Toolset (ETS) helps users monitor and troubleshoot a network with over 60 tools for network management. ETS allows users to monitor and receive alerts in real time on network availability and health, and perform network diagnostics for faster troubleshooting and resolution of complex network issues. With ETS users can deploy an array of network discovery tools including Port Scanner, Switch Port Mapper or advanced Subnet Calculator, manage Cisco® devices with specialized…

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    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeRequiredNo setup fee
    Additional DetailsScienceLogic SL1 offers four tiers: SL1 Advanced – Application Health, Automated Troubleshooting and Remediation Workflows SL1 Base – Infrastructure Monitoring, Topology & Event Correlation SL1 Premium – AI/ML-driven Analytics, Low-Code Automated Workflow Authoring SL1 Standard – Infrastructure Monitoring – with Agents, Business Services, Incident Automation, CMDB Synchronization, Behavioral Correlation
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    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    Chose ScienceLogic AI Platform
    As I stated earlier, SL1 seems to be best used for Servers and Network Storage devices. It doesn't seem to be a direct replacement as SL1 doesn't have a configuration management piece, visual maps are very crude and not user-friendly, and the building of the maps is not …
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    Delivers good value for the price
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    Features
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    Comparison of AIOps Features features of A10 Thunder ADC and ScienceLogic AI Platform and SolarWinds Engineer's Toolset
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    A10 Thunder ADC
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    ScienceLogic AI Platform
    7.5
    26 Ratings
    2% below category average
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    Monitoring and Alerting00 Ratings8.225 Ratings00 Ratings
    Performance Analytics00 Ratings7.726 Ratings00 Ratings
    Incident Management00 Ratings6.626 Ratings00 Ratings
    Service Desk Integration00 Ratings7.525 Ratings00 Ratings
    Root Cause Analysis00 Ratings7.721 Ratings00 Ratings
    Capacity Planning Tool00 Ratings7.222 Ratings00 Ratings
    Configuration and Change Management00 Ratings7.723 Ratings00 Ratings
    Automated Remediation00 Ratings7.620 Ratings00 Ratings
    Collaboration and Communication00 Ratings7.920 Ratings00 Ratings
    Threat Intelligence00 Ratings7.319 Ratings00 Ratings
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    User Testimonials
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    Likelihood to Recommend
    A10 Networks
    I recommend it but would like to mention that the buyer should analyze their needs very well and perform exhaustive service tests prior to purchase.
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    ScienceLogic
    For Windows, the issue is in higher resource consumption related to WinRM monitoring, which provides better options then the SNMP monitoring, which on the other hand is less resource intensive. The problem is also with support for OS with other than English language.
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    SolarWinds
    I have found the toolset especially useful for scanning subnets to discover devices, and for setting up temporary real-time monitors when we are troubleshooting or setting up new connections. The most useful aspect has been the ability to apply the tools to help troubleshoot and pinpoint intermittent issues. More general tools like Orion often do not have the granularity to detect issues like intermittent packet loss which are especially impactful to applications like Voice. The toolset gives us another level of capability to dig into issues.
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    Pros
    A10 Networks
    • Load balancing
    • Scripting AFLEX
    • DDOS mitigation
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    ScienceLogic
    • Best overall coverage of montioring different technologies.
    • Easy to use in any environment
    • Customizable being able to generate your own reports, dashboards, DA's, RBA's, etc.
    • Have very good out of the box integrations with other monitoring solutions such as ServiceNow
    • Always improving and regularly releasing new versions and upgrades to the system/DA's.
    • Interactive community
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    SolarWinds
    • Various monitoring
    • Stores history
    • Suggests indices
    • Helps to find the SQL query text
    • Helps to see what machines/users the bad queries are coming from
    • Shows current blocking session
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    Cons
    A10 Networks
    • Functionalities and features do not match our needs.
    • Other vendors offer very similar characteristics for lower prices.
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    ScienceLogic
    • Dashboards are quite old and are of Iron age. Need to have AP2 dashboards only instead of AP1 and consistent new design across all functionalities.
    • Reporting is not improved since Y2020 and need to revamp completely. Need to integrate Dashboards and Reporting. PowerBI Like functionality to be given OOTB. Reports should be extracted in Excel, PDF, HTML and should be heavily automated.
    • Create and Open APIs for basic and advanced monitoring data extraction.
    • Topology based Event Correlation and Suppression should be improved drastically. Need to identify critical network interfaces based on Topology and monitor them. Basic customization of Dynamic App and/or Powerpack to exclude/include certain metrics/events to be permitted OOTB instead of customizations.
    • Integration with ServiceNow to be improved and to be taken to next level. Automation Powerpack should be made available OOTB as part of base product and to be priced attractively.
    • Take product to next level where we can monitor actual impacted IT or Business Service instead of metrics and events BSM and Topology map to be auto discovered and identify the network dependencies and alternate paths automatically instead of manual creation of BSM.
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    SolarWinds
    • The unifying component that is intended to be the initial interface to the tools seems clunky. I prefer to start the tools individually rather than using it.
    • The port scanner could use some improvements to make it easier to use.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    It is simply because of all the best possible autonomy solutions it is providing and getting better day by day. Using AI and Devops along with handy automation, The monitoring and Management of devices becomes much easier and the way it is growing in all the aspects is one the best reasons too. Evolution of the SL1 platform in the autonomy monitoring and management is quite appreciable.
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    SolarWinds
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    Usability
    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    The core functions are there.
    The complexity is due to the complexity of the space.
    The score is based on comfort (I no longer notice the legacy UI) and the promise that I see in the 8.12 Unified UI (a vast improvement).
    It is also based on the fact that with 8.12, you can now do everything in the new UI but you still have the legacy UI as a fallback (which should now be unnecessary for new installations)
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    SolarWinds
    Very easy to use and intuitive. Just be careful with the WAN Killer...it does what it says.
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    Reliability and Availability
    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    SL is always there and online when you need to get info from it. The only times when SL was not available in our own data center, was when network links from out side of the data center was down and those links were not in our controll. Having a central database and people accessing it all over the world, may put a bit of constarin on the performance of the dashboards when reports gets generated, but that is far and few n between.
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    SolarWinds
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    Performance
    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    SceinceLogic SL1 architecture helps the platform to give a top-notch performance in every respect, Data collection to reporting happens very smoothly. With the new user interface pages load much faster. Individual appliances carrying the individual task ensure things are working without lag. Integration with ticketing tool(SNOW) is well managed by the ScienceLogic, no issue or much delay has been observed while interacting with an external tool.
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    SolarWinds
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    Support Rating
    A10 Networks
    Support said the devices will work in our environment but when we had the device working we realized that it was not possible to do what we wanted, for this reason, our experience was not entirely good and we did not like the way they approached us for the sale of the device.
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    ScienceLogic
    So far, it's good as part of my overall experience, except for a couple of use cases. The support team is well knowledgeable, has technical sound, and is efficient. When support escalates to engineering, the issue gets stuck and takes months to resolve.
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    SolarWinds
    Our organization uses it regularly. It is reliable, and we keep finding new uses for it
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    In-Person Training
    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    It was good, Do the online training first and understand it and you will get the most out of the in-person training that way. This also takes you to an advanced level which is very good and the training as been overhauled once again along with new product coming in such as Zebruim / Skylar, worth going through again if it a while back that you first did this.
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    SolarWinds
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    Online Training
    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    There are a lot of educational materials and courses on the SL1 training site (Litmos university). However the recording quality is sometimes not very good - screen resolution is low. There is a lack of professional rather than user-oriented documents and there are mistakes in documentation and education is not well structured.
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    SolarWinds
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    Implementation Rating
    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    Implementation is smooth if we are to just support the out-of-the-box features available in ScienceLogic. For any custom requirement, having to go to SL1 Professional Services is the worst part of procuring this suite. And more often than not, SL1 Professional Services also ask to raise feature request. So, you subscribe to Professional Services to only hear back from them that "This feature is not supported and needs to have a separate feature request". At times frustrating.
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    SolarWinds
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    Alternatives Considered
    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    Science logic SL1 is so user friendly and it's really easy to navigate between function. I would recommend Sciene logic SL1 to all of them who are looking for really useful monitoring tool and expecting easy way of managing it.
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    SolarWinds
    I haven't compared any tools similar to SolarWinds Engineer's Toolset. This might be because I'm pretty biased when it comes to monitoring, and reporting solutions. I've found that SolarWinds provides the biggest bang for the buck in my opinion. I'm sure there are other solutions on the market that compete, but I haven't tried any of them because I've been very satisfied with SolarWinds.
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    Scalability
    A10 Networks
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    ScienceLogic
    Our deployment model is vastly different from product expectations. Our global / internal monitoring foot print is 8 production stacks in dual data centers with 50% collection capacity allocated to each data center with minimal numbers of collection groups. General Collection is our default collection group. Special Collection is for monitoring our ASA and other hardware that cannot be polled by a large number of IP addresses, so this collection group is usually 2 collectors). Because most of our stacks are in different physical data centers, we cannot use the provided HA solution. We have to use the DR solution (DRBD + CNAMEs). We routinely test power in our data centers (yearly). Because we have to use DR, we have a hand-touch to flip nodes and change the DNS CNAME half of the times when there is an outage (by design). When the outage is planned, we do this ahead of the outage so that we don't care that the Secondary has dropped away from the Primary. Hopefully, we'll be able to find a way to meet our constraints and improve our resiliency and reduce our hand-touch in future releases. For now, this works for us and our complexity. (I hear that the HA option is sweet. I just can't consume that.)
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    SolarWinds
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    Return on Investment
    A10 Networks
    • A10 Thunder ADC had a negative impact on the company, due to the fact that the client had to monitor a large number of sites, which could not be achieved with this device.
    • This led to looking for another alternative.
    • It is more beneficial for companies that do not need to monitor a large number of websites as the security and stability provided by the device are excellent.
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    ScienceLogic
    • Once a powerpack is developed and configured for a device for one customer, it is easy to deploy the same powerpack on a second customer estate and configure specifically for that customer without having to reinvent the powerpack. This saves time and therefore money.
    • Once the customer estate tuning is complete, the Operations team have come trust the alerts. This is especially true when transient or self-correcting alerts are automatically cleared without ops team involvement, but a record is still available for audit and debugging purposes. This saves time and therefore money.
    • When setup correctly, it provides good visibility into applications, devices and whole customer estates. This saves time and therefore money when issues arise.
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    SolarWinds
    • Spend less time downloading free buggy tools
    • All the tools in one spot, so you don't have to look around for tools
    • Get to the solution sooner
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    ScreenShots

    ScienceLogic AI Platform Screenshots

    Screenshot of Unified Observability and Contextual IntelligenceScreenshot of Relationship Mapping & Service VisibilityScreenshot of ITSM and Collaboration IntegrationsScreenshot of Low-Code Workflow BuilderScreenshot of Dynamic Application DevelopmentScreenshot of Executive Overview Dashboard

    SolarWinds Engineer's Toolset Screenshots

    Screenshot of Perform network stress tests with Engineer's Toolset WAN Killer. You don’t need to use real traffic for studying network activities, like testing traffic and load balancing. Instead, deploy Engineer's Toolset WAN Killer to help interactively test connections and adjust the IP traffic generated to achieve the desired network load based on your requirements.Screenshot of Quickly troubleshoot your network with enhanced ping capabilities and packet route tracing, among other network bandwidth usage and monitoring tools included in ETS.Screenshot of Using ETS, you can run scans to gain insight into how routers, hubs switches, and other devices are configured by analyzing SNMP queries and viewing MIB attributes. ETS is designed to help you more easily understand whether your network and ports are using appropriate settings.Screenshot of Config Compare, a part of ETS, is built to compare the running configuration of a Cisco router with the startup configuration. With the Cisco configuration compare tool, you can easily detect the changes made to the network, switch, and router configurations that are not committed to non-volatile memory (NVRAM).Screenshot of Manage your IP network from discovery to address tracking. Discover subnets on a seed router and scan the subnet or a range of IP addresses, generate a list of subnets along with their mask, size, range, and broadcast address and actively monitor subnets to identify and track which IP addresses are in use on your network.