Convio Luminate (discontinued) vs. Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Convio Luminate (discontinued)
Score 6.0 out of 10
N/A
Convio Luminate was a nonprofit CRM option acquired by Blackbaud that is currently discontinued, and no longer available.N/A
Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Score 8.3 out of 10
N/A
Salesforce for Nonprofits, the Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud, is a nonprofit constituent relationship management platform from Salesforce, which supports constituent engagement, fundraising, and grants. Nonprofit editions contain Salesforce Lightning Edition along with the former Nonprofit Success Pack (NPSP) combined.
$36
per month per user
Pricing
Convio Luminate (discontinued)Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Editions & Modules
No answers on this topic
Sales Cloud - EE
$36
per month per user
Sales + Service Cloud - EE
$48
per month (billed annually) per user
Nonprofit Cloud - EE
$60
per month (billed annually) per user
Nonprofit Cloud - UE
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Convio Luminate (discontinued)Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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Community Pulse
Convio Luminate (discontinued)Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Top Pros
Top Cons
Best Alternatives
Convio Luminate (discontinued)Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Small Businesses
Bloomerang
Bloomerang
Score 9.1 out of 10
Bloomerang
Bloomerang
Score 9.1 out of 10
Medium-sized Companies
Bloomerang
Bloomerang
Score 9.1 out of 10
Bloomerang
Bloomerang
Score 9.1 out of 10
Enterprises
Blackbaud CRM
Blackbaud CRM
Score 7.5 out of 10
Blackbaud CRM
Blackbaud CRM
Score 7.5 out of 10
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User Ratings
Convio Luminate (discontinued)Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Likelihood to Recommend
5.0
(2 ratings)
8.4
(29 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
10.0
(1 ratings)
Usability
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
1.0
(1 ratings)
9.0
(9 ratings)
User Testimonials
Convio Luminate (discontinued)Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud
Likelihood to Recommend
Discontinued Products
It does great with donor cultivation processes and the workflow feature is top-notch for automating processes. Where it does a less than stellar job is getting it to work more specifically for your organization. Often times building that kind of special feature costs a significant time and money investment and it is something that is hard to transfer when it's time to move to a new database.
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Salesforce
If you only want to track donations, I'd go with something simpler. If you want to track donations and programs and connections between them, there may be nothing better. If you have no technical abilities and no budget, restricted yourself solely to what it does as described exactly in the manual. If you can't devote about 0.25FTE to the constant maintenance and upgrades, don't go with it.
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Pros
Discontinued Products
  • Luminate takes some of the legwork out of setting up NSPS for nonprofit use of salesforce.
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Salesforce
  • NPSP is designed to help with donor management.
  • There are free add-ons for volunteer management.
  • There is a new Program Management Module to better manage program participation and attendance.
  • Campaigns help organize and report on marketing efforts though we use a third-party solution to send out marketing materials.
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Cons
Discontinued Products
  • Big Investment
  • It's a sales program with a donation management overlay so it has some troubles around reporting.
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Salesforce
  • Learning curve - very powerful, but takes time to learn
  • Batch processing - takes time and advanced skills to reach efficiency for data entry and certain operations which you want to do in batch
  • Mass email is extremely limited - must choose a third party tool which adds complexity and cost to the system
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Likelihood to Renew
Discontinued Products
No answers on this topic
Salesforce
There is really no other tool to compare and especially since Salesforce for Nonprofits is free!!
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Usability
Discontinued Products
No answers on this topic
Salesforce
I think Salesforce has so much functionality that it makes it difficult in terms of overall usability. Once you can figure it out, it's a 10/10, it's just getting there. If you're willing to do the work to figure it out then you're golden. For what it's worth, I don't know if you're going to find something with this level of functionality that's easier to figure out
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Support Rating
Discontinued Products
Support for the product is horrible; often support will have you bouncing between Blackbaud support and Salesforce support and it's very rare either are able to find simple solutions. Most of the time the solutions almost always cost money and hiring consultants which, for a smaller organization, means not being able to achieve proper solutions.
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Salesforce
I have never had bad conversations with any support people with Salesforce but we also have not used them very much. I put it a little less because we are struggling to switch to lightning (some of our custom features do not migrate well) and it feels like the help and support for a little organization is not incredibly helpful unless we want to spend a lot of money.
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Alternatives Considered
Discontinued Products
Of the databases I have used, Luminate CRM is my least favorite. However, it is powerful and large enough to function adequately for a large nonprofit; I couldn't say the same for some of Blackbaud's smaller products. We definitely need the full Luminate Suite (Luminate Online, Team Raiser, etc.,) to make it work, though - and we're constantly disappointed by the clumsiness of the way all the pieces interact.
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Salesforce
As a cloud native organization with no previous Microsoft infrastructure, Salesforce was a more logical and effective option for us. The suite of products was also far more comprehensive and required less customization. We were able to adopt a "configure not code" approach to our development of systems to support our mission that lowered the cost of upgrades.
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Return on Investment
Discontinued Products
  • Uncertain; we have not collected data on this. Our Luminate package is quite expensive, though.
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Salesforce
  • Salesforce has allowed us to easily track donor communications in one area, which I believe has improved our donor communication overall.
  • Salesforce for Nonprofits has made it easier on my org to track and pull donation-related information and has reduced the amount of time we need to do these regular tasks.
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ScreenShots

Salesforce.org Nonprofit Cloud Screenshots

Screenshot of Case ManagementScreenshot of Contact RecordScreenshot of Home DashboardScreenshot of Management ModuleScreenshot of Marketing Cloud for Nonprofits