Epicor Kinetic vs. Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor Kinetic
Score 7.4 out of 10
N/A
Epicor Kinetic (the name of the former Epicor ERP) presents a wide feature breadth, customizability, and scalability, typical product-centric cloud ERP offerings. It is meant as a single, end-to-end software solution for businesses, and is available on-premise, hosted, or in the cloud as a software as a service (SaaS) solution.N/A
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
Score 8.0 out of 10
N/A
Microsoft Dynamics 365 for Finance and Operations (or Dynamics AX) was an ERP product in the Dynamics family. It has been split into separate Dynamics 365 products to provide more flexibility to customers, allowing users to pay only for the functionality they need. Microsoft Dynamics AX will reach end of support in 2021, and end of extended support in 2023. Financial tracking and budgeting features are now found in the newly launchedN/A
Pricing
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional DetailsMust contact sales team for pricing.
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Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
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Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
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Microsoft D365 FO stands out amongst the competitors with its strong backing on the Microsoft Azure cloud and the life cycle services is the best I’ve seen. There is a ways to go in making it low/no code and mobile is there but not great. Overall an ok product as ERP is a …
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Features
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.4
13 Ratings
3% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.8
8 Ratings
20% above category average
Pay calculation7.713 Ratings9.07 Ratings
Benefit plan administration7.79 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Direct deposit files6.39 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
6.0
26 Ratings
19% below category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
7.0
13 Ratings
4% below category average
API for custom integration6.124 Ratings5.013 Ratings
Plug-ins6.022 Ratings8.912 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.5
37 Ratings
8% below category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
6.0
14 Ratings
30% below category average
Single sign-on capability8.030 Ratings5.013 Ratings
Role-based user permissions7.037 Ratings7.014 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.4
37 Ratings
19% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.3
14 Ratings
17% above category average
Dashboards7.936 Ratings9.012 Ratings
Standard reports9.036 Ratings7.014 Ratings
Custom reports8.332 Ratings9.014 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.1
36 Ratings
7% below category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.2
15 Ratings
7% above category average
Accounts payable7.334 Ratings7.015 Ratings
Accounts receivable7.235 Ratings7.014 Ratings
Global Financial Support9.016 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers6.316 Ratings9.07 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations7.319 Ratings7.010 Ratings
Configurable Accounting7.917 Ratings9.08 Ratings
Standardized Processes8.018 Ratings8.99 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.9
36 Ratings
23% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.7
13 Ratings
10% above category average
Inventory tracking9.935 Ratings8.013 Ratings
Automatic reordering9.921 Ratings9.011 Ratings
Location management9.928 Ratings9.011 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.7
39 Ratings
11% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
7.6
13 Ratings
2% below category average
Pricing9.036 Ratings8.012 Ratings
Order entry8.039 Ratings9.011 Ratings
Credit card processing7.219 Ratings3.09 Ratings
Cost of goods sold8.938 Ratings8.010 Ratings
Order Orchestration9.916 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.8
22 Ratings
17% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.7
10 Ratings
16% above category average
Billing Management9.917 Ratings8.99 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management9.918 Ratings8.010 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management5.713 Ratings8.97 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting8.914 Ratings8.97 Ratings
Period Close8.218 Ratings8.07 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
19 Ratings
19% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.9
7 Ratings
16% above category average
Budgeting and Forecasting9.015 Ratings9.06 Ratings
Project Costing8.016 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Cost Capture10.017 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Capital Project Management9.011 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance9.09 Ratings9.03 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition9.012 Ratings8.95 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
14 Ratings
11% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.8
5 Ratings
25% above category average
Project Planning and Scheduling7.612 Ratings8.95 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers5.47 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality7.25 Ratings6.04 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools7.36 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.8
7 Ratings
3% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.7
4 Ratings
14% above category average
Award Lifecycle Management8.03 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.2
13 Ratings
16% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.7
7 Ratings
22% above category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared8.75 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Contract Authoring9.04 Ratings9.03 Ratings
Contract Repository7.75 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated8.87 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Supplier Management7.910 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
3 Ratings
19% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.8
2 Ratings
30% above category average
Risk Repository8.02 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Control Management8.03 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments8.02 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Issue Detection8.02 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Remediation and Certification8.02 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.3
11 Ratings
6% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
8.5
6 Ratings
21% above category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization7.75 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management7.04 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management7.04 Ratings8.95 Ratings
Fulfillment Management5.18 Ratings8.04 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management7.76 Ratings10.05 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.1
20 Ratings
7% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
7.7
6 Ratings
2% above category average
Production Process Design7.915 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Production Management7.619 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Configuration Management8.113 Ratings7.04 Ratings
Work Execution7.715 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs9.319 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.4
21 Ratings
26% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
9.2
6 Ratings
24% above category average
Forecasting8.917 Ratings9.95 Ratings
Inventory Planning8.920 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Performance Monitoring9.915 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
7 Ratings
5% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
9.0
3 Ratings
21% above category average
Proposal Management7.44 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Product Master Data Management7.05 Ratings9.03 Ratings
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User Ratings
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
Likelihood to Recommend
8.1
(39 ratings)
8.0
(19 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
(4 ratings)
Usability
9.0
(1 ratings)
8.0
(3 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
7.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
7.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
10.0
(2 ratings)
8.0
(3 ratings)
In-Person Training
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Online Training
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
(1 ratings)
Implementation Rating
-
(0 ratings)
7.3
(2 ratings)
Product Scalability
8.5
(15 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
7.6
(14 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX, discontinued
Likelihood to Recommend
Epicor Software
Epicor is an excellent system for most manufacturing customers and offers several features previously only offered on the very large (e.g. Oracle, PeopleSoft, etc) level platforms. Yet the pricing is mid-level, and the expandability through additional modules provides a great opportunity for future business growth. The architecture is easily scalable, fast, and offers great options for both on premise and hosted systems. Epicor is flexible, and large enough that regular updates and enhancements continue to be adopted to improve functionality and effectiveness. It is however, not for everyone. Competition in this sector is very good, with several mid-level systems being available at a similar price point. If you are considering adopting a new ERP system and are in the plastics space, you also owe it to yourself and your team to consider IQMS, which is becoming a de-facto standard in this segment. Also, for specific medical sectors, you will find that Epicor software validation for CFR Part 11 compliance can be quite costly-- although the software is capable of supporting this with modification. Overall, Epicor is a solid choice. Ultimately, it will be up to your team to determine what works best for your needs. You won't be disappointed with Epicor if you do the due diligence and take the time needed to properly review and demo the product. Remember though, demos are typically "best case" staged, so be sure to throw several curveballs at your vendor and bring out the unique requirements of your business.
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Microsoft
It integrates fully with the other Microsoft software we use daily, and this coordination speeds up our work and gives us the agility to run easily. For example, in a purchase inquiry, the customer, after submitting a request, identifies the teams that should work on the project, and if they need further review by other people, they are added to the process, and everything is managed seamlessly rather than the sales process. Get the result as fast as possible.
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Pros
Epicor Software
  • Epicor has the best product configurator that I have seen on the market. This was one of the main reasons we went with Epicor, and have not been disappointed at all.
  • Epicor is also one of the easiest ERP system to learn, and has many ways for users to get training. Epicor University, on-line courses, or class room settings, also user conference every year, and user support groups.
  • The Enterprise search ability in Epicor is great, can find parts, customers, suppliers, etc. so easily. And if you can't remember where a report or task that you want to do is on the menu, you can search for that also.
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Microsoft
  • Microsoft Dynamics AX's scalability to meet our regional office needs provide flexibility to the team's requirements.
  • Combined with Citrix Xenapp, the application offers seamless access for users on high latency unreliable network connection to the application.
  • Application maintenance and updates are easy which makes it possible for us to manage remotely considering the servers are located in a remote Asia site.
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Cons
Epicor Software
  • Consultants should be very well trained to make sure program integrity is maintained during challenging implementations.
  • There should be an improvement on answering questions raised, especially upon migration issues.
  • When is Epicor aware of improper/incorrect implementation they might proactively offer improvement support?
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Microsoft
  • MRP can be slow to adapt to changes in actual production or supply chain transactions.
  • Setting up number sequences seems a trivial matter, but these numbers ID transactions once they are in the ledger and are key--easy to miss this point in the implementation process.
  • Bank rec being easily automated and able to quickly plug into a bank back end to get data is not the best.
  • Payment processing can be 'clunky' based on checks, ACH, Wires...as some of these items are not triggered out of the box in AX, bur are easily added --talking ACH and Wires specifically.
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Likelihood to Renew
Epicor Software
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Microsoft
Microsoft Dynamics continues to evolve by bringing more functionality to the customer. Also there are several independent software providers that offer a wide range of solutions for vertical markets.
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Usability
Epicor Software
It is a good service to have people update and collaborate with I also like the ease of it. It keeps the stock of materials accountable
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Microsoft
Overall the product does what we need it to do in order for us to function as a company. While there are some concerns over ongoing costs, the belief is, once we have it fully acclimated to our business the cost should settle into alignment with our original expectations. The new features that are consistently being added do add value to the product as they are usually customer request directed.
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Reliability and Availability
Epicor Software
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Microsoft
Some integration and high volume ramping challenges, particularly with BizTalk and SQL Server, but getting sorted out. Outages over time appeared to be more dependent on integration complexity than AX MES.
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Performance
Epicor Software
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Microsoft
Some integration and high volume ramping challenges, particularly with BizTalk and SQL Server, but getting sorted out. Outages over time appeared to be more dependent on integration complexity than AX MES.
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Support Rating
Epicor Software
If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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Microsoft
We use a 3rd-party Microsoft Partner for the system. They are responsive and very knowledgeable. While costs have been mentioned several times in this review they are very aware of costs and have developers who are more economical they use to help offset the level of work required to meet our changes and fix our issues.
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In-Person Training
Epicor Software
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Microsoft
It took a lot of work, but Microsoft ultimately did a good job with in-person training, including being onsite in multiple global locations for extended periods.
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Online Training
Epicor Software
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Microsoft
Our solution deviated from a number of key out-of-the-box standards that were included in Online training. We just used that for introduction to the general functionality.
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Implementation Rating
Epicor Software
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Microsoft
Some rough spots, but ultimately worked out. The contract didn't appear to be structured to support the level of overlapping facility deployments required to meet timeline commitments. Merging cultures on the program was also challenging. Overall, not an easy implementation by any stretch. Everyone did the best they could.
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Alternatives Considered
Epicor Software
Everyone at our organization really appreciated "made 2 manage" because of all of the quick access and some of the capabilities in accounting. So far, Epicor is much more advanced but the two can stand side by side. These two programs cannot really be compared just because it's just not fair to compare an on-site server ERP system to a cloud-based one.
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Microsoft
I was not part of the decision making process to select Microsoft Dynamics AX, however, I do know that an exhaustive search was done and many options were considered alongside Microsoft Dynamics AX and I feel that the right decision was made in choosing this solution.
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Scalability
Epicor Software
The software is pretty easy to use. Things are pretty clear on how to do them and if you don't know how to do something they have instructions on how to do them or you get an error code telling you exactly what to do. I have been satisfied with my overall experience.
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Microsoft
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Return on Investment
Epicor Software
  • The ROI can be hard to quantify. We spend more time setting up and entering information up front, but we spend less time than before trying to track project costs so that evens out. Purchasing the system and implementing it was very expensive, but the benefit is the the better information can save money on projects as we know where best to spend our time and identify potential problems earlier on a project. We believe it will have a positive impact, but I'd say it will take a few years (3-4) to be worth it.
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Microsoft
  • With the robust built-in reporting we were able to drop an external reporting platform that costed about $40,000.
  • API integrations have saved manual entry and reduced having to hire 2-3 people to manage data.
  • Several administrators and developers are required for this which costs about 200-300 thousand in employee costs.
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