Epicor Kinetic vs. Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor Kinetic
Score 8.0 out of 10
N/A
Epicor Kinetic is a customizable, scalable, product-centric cloud ERP designed specifically for manufacturers.N/A
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Score 4.8 out of 10
N/A
Microsoft Dynamics 365 for Finance and Operations (or Dynamics AX) was an ERP product in the Dynamics family. It has been split into separate Dynamics 365 products and is no longer available.N/A
Pricing
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
NoNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Considered Both Products
Epicor Kinetic
Chose Epicor Kinetic
A more well rounded and manufacturing focused platform
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Smaller player in ERP but meets the needs of the company
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Viewpoint is our current ERP provider, but they pushed all of their customers to the cloud (which we didn't want to do). They also pushed all customers to a single product with a corresponding significant increase in price, while not providing additional value to our company. …
Chose Epicor Kinetic
It was much easier to customize the software to what we wanted and we had more freedom to make the software exactly what we needed it to be. They gave us a lot more tools for development. They didn't restrict certain data transfer between screens or between modules. The support …
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Kinetic is a more stable platform, and the company truly cares about its customers. they treat us like family.
Chose Epicor Kinetic
More variability and reporting use case scenarios offered.
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Very different but seems just as capable for the manufacturing industry.
Chose Epicor Kinetic
NetSuite ERP, Microsoft Dynamics 365 and IBM Managed Services for SAP Applications
Chose Epicor Kinetic
More sophisticated and capable. We like the constant R&D and innovation and feel good it's going to be around for a while.
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Epicor Kinetic allowing us to have the option of on-premise OR in the cloud was a big reason why we chose Epicor Kinetic. We also found the ability to customize and enhance Epicor Kinetic's screens, business processes, BAQs, and other features much more user friendly for our …
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Our system was a homegrown system
Chose Epicor Kinetic
We have been using Epicor Kinetic since 2014, I don't have a list of other products.
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Ease of use and the ability of the system to adapt to our manufacturing processes and make our lives easier while giving us an upgrade in the system throughout the business.
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Acumatica, Plex by Rockwell Automation, Infor CloudSuite ERP and NetSuite ERP
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Although we felt Acumatica would meets our needs as well, Epicor Kinetic was more cost effective to us as a small company.
Chose Epicor Kinetic
I wasn't the decider on the purchase but I have been told that it was vetted and chosen due to the robustness of the program and the ability to add in customizations.
Chose Epicor Kinetic
In my opinion, Epicor Kinetic better with manufacturing
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Most of my histories with SAP directly. I didn't really have any negative experiences. The only thing I could say is that I always had to go to somebody else to solve the problem that I can solve first person now with Epicor Kinetic.
Chose Epicor Kinetic
Epicor Kinetic is good for complex manufacturing, but is missing some basic ERP functions like GL entry approval workflows.
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Using this Microsoft platform is the similarity of the structure and appearance of the software and their integration and easy integration with each other, which makes the work easier for users and employees of the company.
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Dynamics AX is one of the most advanced ERPs out there. When your business needs grow, many other smaller ERPs struggle to cover them.
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Microsoft D365 FO stands out amongst the competitors with its strong backing on the Microsoft Azure cloud and the life cycle services is the best I’ve seen. There is a ways to go in making it low/no code and mobile is there but not great. Overall an ok product as ERP is a …
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Cost and local regional compliance were primary factors in chosing Microsoft Dynamics AX over SAP Access Control for our need. SAP AC would have provided easier integration into our primary ERP system SAP but there were some regional compliance with ASEAN countries as well as …
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
I found a smaller cost in AX and higher flexibility in process definition and in features customization
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
I was not part of the decision making process to select Microsoft Dynamics AX, however, I do know that an exhaustive search was done and many options were considered alongside Microsoft Dynamics AX and I feel that the right decision was made in choosing this solution.
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)

Microsoft Dynamics AX is more user friendly compared to our old ERP system.

With the growth of the company, the old way to generate from the old ERP system is too slow and not competent enough.

We need to get the data as fast as possible.

Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Not as user-friendly and takes more time to input invoices but gets slightly faster as you get used to their quirks.
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
In all cases Dynamics proved to be a more affordable overall investment compared to Oracle and SAP as well as a less complicated implementation.
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)

SAP--there is no way to compare these as SAP is large and complicated as it is not a single integrated system - but many system underneath the GUI / Cover of SAP. No process flexibility that is so needed in our competitive world where global competition requires change at a …

Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Customization capabilities are far more beneficial than a rigid product like SAP.
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Oracle business suite 11i. DAX is simpler and easier to install and customize.
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Oracle. Cost and mitigation of single platform risk, as we also use Oracle for Finance, Order Mgt, etc.
Features
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
Ratings
7% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.8
Ratings
17% above category average
Pay calculation8.20 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Benefit plan administration8.10 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Direct deposit files7.50 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.0
Ratings
6% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
7.0
Ratings
7% below category average
API for custom integration8.30 Ratings5.00 Ratings
Plug-ins7.70 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.4
Ratings
0% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
6.0
Ratings
33% below category average
Single sign-on capability8.80 Ratings5.00 Ratings
Role-based user permissions8.10 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
Ratings
3% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.3
Ratings
11% above category average
Dashboards7.20 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Standard reports7.40 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Custom reports8.10 Ratings9.00 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.3
Ratings
5% below category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.2
Ratings
6% above category average
Accounts payable8.70 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Accounts receivable8.60 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Global Financial Support7.80 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers8.20 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations7.60 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Configurable Accounting8.10 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Standardized Processes8.00 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.4
Ratings
5% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.7
Ratings
9% above category average
Inventory tracking8.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Automatic reordering7.90 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Location management7.70 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.3
Ratings
5% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
7.6
Ratings
4% below category average
Pricing8.40 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Order entry8.30 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Credit card processing7.60 Ratings3.00 Ratings
Cost of goods sold8.10 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Order Orchestration7.80 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.5
Ratings
12% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.7
Ratings
14% above category average
Billing Management7.80 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management7.70 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management7.50 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting7.90 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Period Close8.20 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
Ratings
19% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.9
Ratings
16% above category average
Budgeting and Forecasting9.00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Project Costing8.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Cost Capture10.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Capital Project Management9.00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance9.00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition9.00 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.7
Ratings
10% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.8
Ratings
23% above category average
Project Planning and Scheduling7.70 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers7.10 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality7.20 Ratings6.00 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools7.00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
Ratings
7% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.7
Ratings
16% above category average
Award Lifecycle Management8.50 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.0
Ratings
13% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.7
Ratings
21% above category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared7.50 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Contract Authoring7.40 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Contract Repository7.70 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated7.60 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Supplier Management7.60 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.8
Ratings
15% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.8
Ratings
27% above category average
Risk Repository8.10 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Control Management7.70 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments7.40 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Issue Detection8.50 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Remediation and Certification7.70 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
Ratings
9% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.5
Ratings
20% above category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization7.90 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management7.90 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management7.50 Ratings8.90 Ratings
Fulfillment Management8.00 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management7.90 Ratings10.00 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
Ratings
6% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
7.7
Ratings
3% above category average
Production Process Design7.90 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Production Management8.20 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Configuration Management7.60 Ratings7.00 Ratings
Work Execution7.60 Ratings8.00 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs7.70 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.1
Ratings
10% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
9.2
Ratings
23% above category average
Forecasting7.10 Ratings9.90 Ratings
Inventory Planning7.70 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Performance Monitoring7.80 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
Ratings
7% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
9.0
Ratings
20% above category average
Proposal Management8.20 Ratings9.00 Ratings
Product Master Data Management8.00 Ratings9.00 Ratings
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User Ratings
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Likelihood to Recommend
8.1
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8.0
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Likelihood to Renew
8.8
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8.0
(0 ratings)
Usability
8.1
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8.0
(0 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
7.0
(0 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
7.0
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Support Rating
7.3
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8.0
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In-Person Training
-
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9.0
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Online Training
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
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Implementation Rating
7.3
(0 ratings)
7.3
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Product Scalability
8.5
(0 ratings)
-
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Vendor post-sale
7.6
(0 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Likelihood to Recommend
Epicor Kinetic has been a wonderful system of record that I can rely on for consistent tracking of our quote to cash transactions. I have complete confidence in the data that is being processed at the Core of the Epicor Kinetic system. Customizing Epicor Kinetic has been a true game changer for us to allow our team to maximize the unique needs of our customers, vendors and users.
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It integrates fully with the other Microsoft software we use daily, and this coordination speeds up our work and gives us the agility to run easily. For example, in a purchase inquiry, the customer, after submitting a request, identifies the teams that should work on the project, and if they need further review by other people, they are added to the process, and everything is managed seamlessly rather than the sales process. Get the result as fast as possible.
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Pros
  • When compared to the Smart Client, grids and searching are so much faster.
  • As a developer, the way that the forms are laid out in Application Studio in an easy to read way is fantastic
  • Having Epicor Kinetic forms load in a browser window is good. Being able to right click on the menu path and choose 'Open in new tab' is awesome.
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  • Pricing: Microsoft Dynamics AX gives us good flexibility in how we price our products.
  • UX: Microsoft Dynamics AX has a good user interface to put valuable information on the screen for users.
  • Inventory Management: Microsoft Dynamics AX does a great job at giving us insight into our inventory.
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Cons
  • In Application Studio, there are quite a few things that you just have to know in order to really get it to work right. Such as when you are updating a dataview you have to save them refresh and then go back to the wizard to get the added fields that you may have added from a BAQ.
  • When running MRP it has a tendency to stall or not finish on occasion. This is a problem as we do not get any PO Suggestions when this happens.
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  • Sales Ledger. Currently, the idea behind the sales ledger module is that the company prepares a sales order for another company. I would prefer the developers consider the scenario where a sales order is prepared for the same company but for another branch or unit.
  • Postings of issues items are currently possible but none of the modules caters to "departmental material or item request". Further tweaks have been done on our Project Module to cater for this but it's not entirely perfect. This will enable aid in cost allocation per departmental request of materials or items.
  • Challenges with the bank module - does not allow for easily reconciliation as the statement from the banks can not be uploaded except for specific format.
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Likelihood to Renew
Easy to use, reliable, known product, best product configurator, Epicor continues to offer improvements every year.
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Microsoft Dynamics continues to evolve by bringing more functionality to the customer. Also there are several independent software providers that offer a wide range of solutions for vertical markets.
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Usability
There is always room for improvement! I've used Great Plains ERP/MS Dynamics and Epicor my entire career. both do some things really well. Both could learn from each other. The KInetic user interface is much better than the classic windows overall. Please keep adding more functionality to the core financials!!! You need the accountants to be on your side.
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Overall the product does what we need it to do in order for us to function as a company. While there are some concerns over ongoing costs, the belief is, once we have it fully acclimated to our business the cost should settle into alignment with our original expectations. The new features that are consistently being added do add value to the product as they are usually customer request directed.
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Reliability and Availability
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Some integration and high volume ramping challenges, particularly with BizTalk and SQL Server, but getting sorted out. Outages over time appeared to be more dependent on integration complexity than AX MES.
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Performance
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Some integration and high volume ramping challenges, particularly with BizTalk and SQL Server, but getting sorted out. Outages over time appeared to be more dependent on integration complexity than AX MES.
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Support Rating
If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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We use a 3rd-party Microsoft Partner for the system. They are responsive and very knowledgeable. While costs have been mentioned several times in this review they are very aware of costs and have developers who are more economical they use to help offset the level of work required to meet our changes and fix our issues.
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In-Person Training
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It took a lot of work, but Microsoft ultimately did a good job with in-person training, including being onsite in multiple global locations for extended periods.
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Online Training
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Our solution deviated from a number of key out-of-the-box standards that were included in Online training. We just used that for introduction to the general functionality.
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Implementation Rating
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Some rough spots, but ultimately worked out. The contract didn't appear to be structured to support the level of overlapping facility deployments required to meet timeline commitments. Merging cultures on the program was also challenging. Overall, not an easy implementation by any stretch. Everyone did the best they could.
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Alternatives Considered
Viewpoint is our current ERP provider, but they pushed all of their customers to the cloud (which we didn't want to do). They also pushed all customers to a single product with a corresponding significant increase in price, while not providing additional value to our company. As a result, we considered some other options, but given that our sister company had been on Epicor for several years and we have shared IT resources, it made sense to all be on the same system.
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Cost and local regional compliance were primary factors in chosing Microsoft Dynamics AX over SAP Access Control for our need. SAP AC would have provided easier integration into our primary ERP system SAP but there were some regional compliance with ASEAN countries as well as the cost of implementation was more over Microsoft Dynamics AX.
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Scalability
Using the word Scalability usually implies an increase of use, or adding the use of other features. Making the product put to good/proper use for small companies without the need for full-time support, whilst integrity is maintained it is an entirely different topic. In my view, the current company may have acquired a full truck with options, where initially a small pick-up may have been better suited.
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Return on Investment
  • We have increased our lead time of orders by about a week.
  • We have increased our output of product by 10% with the same amount of staff.
  • We were able to leverage Kinetic to optimize our business while moving two facilities.
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  • Clients have seen better cost containment on inventory based on better on hand management and supply chain visibility.
  • Faster closing process for the finance team, where by day 3 of 4 you can generate a trial balance and look to balance ledger to sub-ledger.
  • Better reporting allows for real time analysis and can get to predictive metrics in certain areas.
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ScreenShots

Epicor Kinetic Screenshots

Screenshot of Production ManagementScreenshot of Role-Based Analytics and Business IntelligenceScreenshot of Planning and SchedulingScreenshot of Shipping and ReceivingScreenshot of the General LedgerScreenshot of Training and Development