Epicor Kinetic vs. Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)

Overview
ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price
Epicor Kinetic
Score 8.0 out of 10
N/A
Epicor Kinetic is a customizable, scalable, product-centric cloud ERP designed specifically for manufacturers.N/A
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Score 4.8 out of 10
N/A
Microsoft Dynamics 365 for Finance and Operations (or Dynamics AX) was an ERP product in the Dynamics family. It has been split into separate Dynamics 365 products and is no longer available.N/A
Pricing
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Editions & Modules
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Offerings
Pricing Offerings
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Free Trial
NoNo
Free/Freemium Version
NoNo
Premium Consulting/Integration Services
YesNo
Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
Additional Details
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Community Pulse
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Considered Both Products
Epicor Kinetic
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Chose Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Microsoft D365 FO stands out amongst the competitors with its strong backing on the Microsoft Azure cloud and the life cycle services is the best I’ve seen. There is a ways to go in making it low/no code and mobile is there but not great. Overall an ok product as ERP is a …
Features
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Payroll Management
Comparison of Payroll Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
52 Ratings
7% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.8
8 Ratings
18% above category average
Pay calculation8.250 Ratings9.07 Ratings
Benefit plan administration8.129 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Direct deposit files7.537 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Customization
Comparison of Customization features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.0
151 Ratings
6% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
7.0
13 Ratings
7% below category average
API for custom integration8.3145 Ratings5.013 Ratings
Plug-ins7.7120 Ratings8.912 Ratings
Security
Comparison of Security features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.4
177 Ratings
0% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
6.0
14 Ratings
33% below category average
Single sign-on capability8.8149 Ratings5.013 Ratings
Role-based user permissions8.1174 Ratings7.014 Ratings
Reporting & Analytics
Comparison of Reporting & Analytics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
186 Ratings
3% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.3
14 Ratings
11% above category average
Dashboards7.2178 Ratings9.012 Ratings
Standard reports7.4183 Ratings7.014 Ratings
Custom reports8.1174 Ratings9.014 Ratings
General Ledger and Configurable Accounting
Comparison of General Ledger and Configurable Accounting features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.3
199 Ratings
5% below category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.2
15 Ratings
6% above category average
Accounts payable8.7189 Ratings7.015 Ratings
Accounts receivable8.6184 Ratings7.014 Ratings
Global Financial Support7.8103 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Primary and Secondary Ledgers8.2126 Ratings9.07 Ratings
Journals and Reconciliations7.6151 Ratings7.010 Ratings
Configurable Accounting8.1136 Ratings9.08 Ratings
Standardized Processes8.0159 Ratings8.99 Ratings
Inventory Management
Comparison of Inventory Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.4
186 Ratings
5% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.7
13 Ratings
9% above category average
Inventory tracking8.0185 Ratings8.013 Ratings
Automatic reordering7.9111 Ratings9.011 Ratings
Location management7.7145 Ratings9.011 Ratings
Order Management
Comparison of Order Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.3
189 Ratings
5% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
7.6
13 Ratings
4% below category average
Pricing8.4176 Ratings8.012 Ratings
Order entry8.3187 Ratings9.011 Ratings
Credit card processing7.688 Ratings3.09 Ratings
Cost of goods sold8.1165 Ratings8.010 Ratings
Order Orchestration7.8119 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Subledger and Financial Process
Comparison of Subledger and Financial Process features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.5
161 Ratings
12% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.7
10 Ratings
15% above category average
Billing Management7.8142 Ratings8.99 Ratings
Cash and Asset Management7.7137 Ratings8.010 Ratings
Travel & Expense Management7.580 Ratings8.97 Ratings
Budgetary Control & Encumbrance Accounting7.981 Ratings8.97 Ratings
Period Close8.2144 Ratings8.07 Ratings
Project Financial Management
Comparison of Project Financial Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
9.2
19 Ratings
19% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.9
7 Ratings
16% above category average
Budgeting and Forecasting9.015 Ratings9.06 Ratings
Project Costing8.016 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Cost Capture10.017 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Capital Project Management9.011 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Customer Contract Compliance9.09 Ratings9.03 Ratings
Project Revenue Recognition9.012 Ratings8.95 Ratings
Project Execution Management
Comparison of Project Execution Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.7
74 Ratings
9% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.8
5 Ratings
22% above category average
Project Planning and Scheduling7.767 Ratings8.95 Ratings
Task Insight for Project Managers7.154 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Project Mobile Functionality7.244 Ratings6.04 Ratings
Definable Resource Pools7.051 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Grants Management
Comparison of Grants Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
33 Ratings
6% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.7
4 Ratings
15% above category average
Award Lifecycle Management8.529 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Procurement
Comparison of Procurement features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.0
138 Ratings
13% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.7
7 Ratings
21% above category average
Bids Analyzed and Compared7.559 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Contract Authoring7.456 Ratings9.03 Ratings
Contract Repository7.758 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Requisitions-to-Purchase Orders Integrated7.696 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Supplier Management7.6130 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Risk Management
Comparison of Risk Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.8
49 Ratings
15% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.8
2 Ratings
27% above category average
Risk Repository8.139 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Control Management7.744 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Control Efficiency Assessments7.440 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Issue Detection8.545 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Remediation and Certification7.739 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Logistics
Comparison of Logistics features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.6
103 Ratings
9% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
8.5
6 Ratings
20% above category average
Transportation Planning and Optimization7.971 Ratings8.06 Ratings
Transportation Execution Management7.965 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Trade and Customs Management7.556 Ratings8.95 Ratings
Fulfillment Management8.086 Ratings8.04 Ratings
Warehouse Workforce Management7.973 Ratings10.05 Ratings
Manufacturing
Comparison of Manufacturing features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
148 Ratings
6% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
7.7
6 Ratings
3% above category average
Production Process Design7.9119 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Production Management8.2139 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Configuration Management7.6106 Ratings7.04 Ratings
Work Execution7.6109 Ratings8.05 Ratings
Manufacturing Costs7.7132 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Supply Chain
Comparison of Supply Chain features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
8.1
134 Ratings
11% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
9.2
6 Ratings
23% above category average
Forecasting7.1107 Ratings9.95 Ratings
Inventory Planning7.7131 Ratings9.05 Ratings
Performance Monitoring7.8104 Ratings9.04 Ratings
Product Lifecycle Management
Comparison of Product Lifecycle Management features of Product A and Product B
Epicor Kinetic
7.9
67 Ratings
7% above category average
Microsoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
9.0
3 Ratings
20% above category average
Proposal Management8.254 Ratings9.02 Ratings
Product Master Data Management8.063 Ratings9.03 Ratings
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User Ratings
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Likelihood to Recommend
8.1
(222 ratings)
8.0
(19 ratings)
Likelihood to Renew
8.8
(2 ratings)
8.0
(4 ratings)
Usability
8.1
(182 ratings)
8.0
(3 ratings)
Availability
-
(0 ratings)
7.0
(1 ratings)
Performance
-
(0 ratings)
7.0
(1 ratings)
Support Rating
7.3
(3 ratings)
8.0
(3 ratings)
In-Person Training
-
(0 ratings)
9.0
(1 ratings)
Online Training
-
(0 ratings)
8.0
(1 ratings)
Implementation Rating
7.3
(1 ratings)
7.3
(2 ratings)
Product Scalability
8.5
(15 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
Vendor post-sale
7.6
(14 ratings)
-
(0 ratings)
User Testimonials
Epicor KineticMicrosoft Dynamics AX (discontinued)
Likelihood to Recommend
Epicor Software
I think it depends on the industry and complexity of the company. In our situation, we primarily use Epicor for financials, in a relatively simple manner. I don't think that Epicor is the most intuitive or simple to set up for our situation. I think Epicor is better suited for its target industry of manufacturing, where building out the multiple layers let's Epicor's strengths come to bear.
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It integrates fully with the other Microsoft software we use daily, and this coordination speeds up our work and gives us the agility to run easily. For example, in a purchase inquiry, the customer, after submitting a request, identifies the teams that should work on the project, and if they need further review by other people, they are added to the process, and everything is managed seamlessly rather than the sales process. Get the result as fast as possible.
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Pros
Epicor Software
  • MRP Processing, PO Suggestion processing and maintaining Inventory/Accounting cost consistency.
  • Freighting with speed and precision allows us to ship on time with over 10 shipping stations they all run seamlessly.
  • Using ECM, we've streamlined our AP Invoicing process and increased our teams throughput at least 2x with more speed projected.
  • Using Co-Parts with Advanced Production, we've increased inventory accuracy and accounting for parts cost in a more transparent way.
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  • Microsoft Dynamics AX's scalability to meet our regional office needs provide flexibility to the team's requirements.
  • Combined with Citrix Xenapp, the application offers seamless access for users on high latency unreliable network connection to the application.
  • Application maintenance and updates are easy which makes it possible for us to manage remotely considering the servers are located in a remote Asia site.
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Cons
Epicor Software
  • In Application Studio, there are quite a few things that you just have to know in order to really get it to work right. Such as when you are updating a dataview you have to save them refresh and then go back to the wizard to get the added fields that you may have added from a BAQ.
  • When running MRP it has a tendency to stall or not finish on occasion. This is a problem as we do not get any PO Suggestions when this happens.
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  • MRP can be slow to adapt to changes in actual production or supply chain transactions.
  • Setting up number sequences seems a trivial matter, but these numbers ID transactions once they are in the ledger and are key--easy to miss this point in the implementation process.
  • Bank rec being easily automated and able to quickly plug into a bank back end to get data is not the best.
  • Payment processing can be 'clunky' based on checks, ACH, Wires...as some of these items are not triggered out of the box in AX, bur are easily added --talking ACH and Wires specifically.
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Likelihood to Renew
Epicor Software
Easy to use, reliable, known product, best product configurator, Epicor continues to offer improvements every year.
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Discontinued Products
Microsoft Dynamics continues to evolve by bringing more functionality to the customer. Also there are several independent software providers that offer a wide range of solutions for vertical markets.
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Usability
Epicor Software
There is always room for improvement! I've used Great Plains ERP/MS Dynamics and Epicor my entire career. both do some things really well. Both could learn from each other. The KInetic user interface is much better than the classic windows overall. Please keep adding more functionality to the core financials!!! You need the accountants to be on your side.
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Discontinued Products
Overall the product does what we need it to do in order for us to function as a company. While there are some concerns over ongoing costs, the belief is, once we have it fully acclimated to our business the cost should settle into alignment with our original expectations. The new features that are consistently being added do add value to the product as they are usually customer request directed.
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Reliability and Availability
Epicor Software
No answers on this topic
Discontinued Products
Some integration and high volume ramping challenges, particularly with BizTalk and SQL Server, but getting sorted out. Outages over time appeared to be more dependent on integration complexity than AX MES.
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Performance
Epicor Software
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Discontinued Products
Some integration and high volume ramping challenges, particularly with BizTalk and SQL Server, but getting sorted out. Outages over time appeared to be more dependent on integration complexity than AX MES.
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Support Rating
Epicor Software
If the answer to your problem is not readily available in an answer book, your response or solution will take months, if you get one at all. Problems need to be sent to support and duplicated by them before they try to fix it. This is extremely frustrating because you have to prove to Epicor that you are having an issue. If by some miracle you get by this barrier, your problem is submitted to development for review. You can't speak to them or communicate in any way directly. This group appears to be completely unconcerned about user issues or customer service. Our experiences have been negative across the board.
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Discontinued Products
We use a 3rd-party Microsoft Partner for the system. They are responsive and very knowledgeable. While costs have been mentioned several times in this review they are very aware of costs and have developers who are more economical they use to help offset the level of work required to meet our changes and fix our issues.
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In-Person Training
Epicor Software
No answers on this topic
Discontinued Products
It took a lot of work, but Microsoft ultimately did a good job with in-person training, including being onsite in multiple global locations for extended periods.
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Online Training
Epicor Software
No answers on this topic
Discontinued Products
Our solution deviated from a number of key out-of-the-box standards that were included in Online training. We just used that for introduction to the general functionality.
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Implementation Rating
Epicor Software
No answers on this topic
Discontinued Products
Some rough spots, but ultimately worked out. The contract didn't appear to be structured to support the level of overlapping facility deployments required to meet timeline commitments. Merging cultures on the program was also challenging. Overall, not an easy implementation by any stretch. Everyone did the best they could.
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Alternatives Considered
Epicor Software
Most of my histories with SAP directly. I didn't really have any negative experiences. The only thing I could say is that I always had to go to somebody else to solve the problem that I can solve first person now with Epicor Kinetic.
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Discontinued Products
I was not part of the decision making process to select Microsoft Dynamics AX, however, I do know that an exhaustive search was done and many options were considered alongside Microsoft Dynamics AX and I feel that the right decision was made in choosing this solution.
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Scalability
Epicor Software
Using the word Scalability usually implies an increase of use, or adding the use of other features. Making the product put to good/proper use for small companies without the need for full-time support, whilst integrity is maintained it is an entirely different topic. In my view, the current company may have acquired a full truck with options, where initially a small pick-up may have been better suited.
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Discontinued Products
No answers on this topic
Return on Investment
Epicor Software
  • We have increased our lead time of orders by about a week.
  • We have increased our output of product by 10% with the same amount of staff.
  • We were able to leverage Kinetic to optimize our business while moving two facilities.
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  • With the robust built-in reporting we were able to drop an external reporting platform that costed about $40,000.
  • API integrations have saved manual entry and reduced having to hire 2-3 people to manage data.
  • Several administrators and developers are required for this which costs about 200-300 thousand in employee costs.
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ScreenShots

Epicor Kinetic Screenshots

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