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    ProductRatingMost Used ByProduct SummaryStarting Price

    Epicor HCM (discontinued)

    Score9.6 out of 10
    N/AEpicor HCM supplied human resource management system (HRMS) capabilities, but Epicor has stopped offering this functionality and company's HR applications are no longer available.N/A

    Varicent

    Score8 out of 10
    N/AFrom quotas to sales and compensation, Varicent helps revenue leaders in enterprise organizations chart a more effective, connected path to revenue by providing vital data, insights, and sales go-to-market planning tools.N/A
    Pricing
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Varicent
    Editions & Modules
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    Offerings
    Pricing Offerings
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Varicent
    Free Trial
    NoNo
    Free/Freemium Version
    NoNo
    Premium Consulting/Integration Services
    NoNo
    Entry-level Setup FeeNo setup feeNo setup fee
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    Community Pulse
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Varicent
    Considered Both Products
    Discontinued Products
    No answer on this topic
    Varicent
    No answer on this topic
    Key User Insights
    Would buy again
    No answers on this topic
    92%
    Would buy again
    35 Answers
    Delivers good value for the price
    No answers on this topic
    97%
    Delivers good value for the price
    31 Answers
    Happy with the feature set
    No answers on this topic
    95%
    Happy with the feature set
    36 Answers
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    No answers on this topic
    77%
    Lived up to sales and marketing promises
    20 Answers
    Implementation went as expected
    No answers on this topic
    81%
    Implementation went as expected
    25 Answers
    Features
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Varicent
    Human Resource Management
    Comparison of Human Resource Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    9 Ratings
    20% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    Employee demographic data10.09 Ratings00 Ratings
    Employment history10.09 Ratings00 Ratings
    Job profiles and administration10.08 Ratings00 Ratings
    Workflow for transfers, promotions, pay raises, etc.10.09 Ratings00 Ratings
    Organizational charting10.05 Ratings00 Ratings
    Organization and location management10.08 Ratings00 Ratings
    Compliance data (COBRA, OSHA, etc.)10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Payroll Management
    Comparison of Payroll Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    7 Ratings
    20% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    Pay calculation10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Support for external payroll vendors10.07 Ratings00 Ratings
    Off-cycle/On-Demand payment10.01 Ratings00 Ratings
    Benefit plan administration10.07 Ratings00 Ratings
    Direct deposit files10.05 Ratings00 Ratings
    Salary revision and increment management10.06 Ratings00 Ratings
    Reimbursement management10.02 Ratings00 Ratings
    Leave and Attendance Management
    Comparison of Leave and Attendance Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    9.0
    7 Ratings
    9% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    Approval workflow10.06 Ratings00 Ratings
    Balance details8.07 Ratings00 Ratings
    Annual carry-forward and encashment9.05 Ratings00 Ratings
    Employee Self Service
    Comparison of Employee Self Service features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    9.8
    8 Ratings
    17% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    View and generate pay and benefit information9.07 Ratings00 Ratings
    Update personal information10.08 Ratings00 Ratings
    View company policy documentation10.06 Ratings00 Ratings
    Employee recognition10.02 Ratings00 Ratings
    View job history10.06 Ratings00 Ratings
    Asset Management
    Comparison of Asset Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    4 Ratings
    22% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    Tracking of all physical assets10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    HR Reporting
    Comparison of HR Reporting features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    7.0
    9 Ratings
    8% below category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    Report builder8.09 Ratings00 Ratings
    Pre-built reports6.09 Ratings00 Ratings
    Ability to combine HR data with external data7.08 Ratings00 Ratings
    Onboarding
    Comparison of Onboarding features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    3 Ratings
    22% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    New hire portal10.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Manager tracking tools10.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Performance and Goals
    Comparison of Performance and Goals features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    4 Ratings
    21% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    Corporate goal setting10.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Individual goal setting10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Line-of sight-visibility10.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Performance tracking10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Performance Management
    Comparison of Performance Management features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    9.2
    4 Ratings
    14% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    Performance plans10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Performance improvement plans10.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Review status tracking10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Review reminders7.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Multiple review frequency9.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Succession Planning
    Comparison of Succession Planning features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    3 Ratings
    24% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    Create succession plans/pools10.01 Ratings00 Ratings
    Candidate ranking10.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Candidate search10.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Candidate development10.01 Ratings00 Ratings
    Recruiting / ATS
    Comparison of Recruiting / ATS features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    10.0
    4 Ratings
    23% above category average
    Varicent
    -
    Ratings
    Job Requisition Management10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Company Website Posting10.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Publish to Social Media10.01 Ratings00 Ratings
    Job Search Site Posting10.02 Ratings00 Ratings
    Duplicate Candidate Prevention10.03 Ratings00 Ratings
    Applicant Tracking10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Notifications and Alerts10.04 Ratings00 Ratings
    Sales ICM
    Comparison of Sales ICM features of Epicor HCM (discontinued) and Varicent
    Feature
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)
    -
    Ratings
    Varicent
    6.7
    55 Ratings
    16% below category average
    Sales compensation plan creation00 Ratings7.148 Ratings
    Complex sales crediting00 Ratings7.548 Ratings
    Sales compensation process automation00 Ratings7.452 Ratings
    Incentive auditing/regulation compliance00 Ratings6.546 Ratings
    Sales compensation dashboards & forecasting00 Ratings6.447 Ratings
    Incentive modeling00 Ratings6.243 Ratings
    Agile incentive strategy00 Ratings6.538 Ratings
    ICM mobile visibility00 Ratings6.232 Ratings
    Best Alternatives
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Varicent
    Small Businesses
    UZIO
    Score9.4 out of 10
    No answers on this topic
    Medium-sized Companies
    Zoho People
    Score8.6 out of 10
    Everstage
    Score9.1 out of 10
    Enterprises
    PeopleStrong
    Score10 out of 10
    CaptivateIQ
    Score9.3 out of 10
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    User Ratings
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Varicent
    Likelihood to Recommend
    9.0
    (12 ratings)
    7.3
    (67 ratings)
    Likelihood to Renew
    10.0
    (2 ratings)
    4.8
    (15 ratings)
    Usability
    7.0
    (2 ratings)
    7.0
    (59 ratings)
    Availability
    9.0
    (1 ratings)
    5.2
    (3 ratings)
    Performance
    9.0
    (2 ratings)
    5.8
    (3 ratings)
    Support Rating
    1.0
    (4 ratings)
    6.8
    (6 ratings)
    In-Person Training
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    7.7
    (2 ratings)
    Online Training
    -
    (0 ratings)
    7.7
    (2 ratings)
    Implementation Rating
    7.1
    (2 ratings)
    6.8
    (6 ratings)
    Configurability
    -
    (0 ratings)
    5.2
    (3 ratings)
    Ease of integration
    -
    (0 ratings)
    4.3
    (3 ratings)
    Product Scalability
    8.6
    (3 ratings)
    6.8
    (58 ratings)
    Vendor post-sale
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    5.9
    (3 ratings)
    Vendor pre-sale
    10.0
    (1 ratings)
    5.9
    (3 ratings)
    User Testimonials
    Epicor HCM (discontinued)Varicent
    Likelihood to Recommend
    Discontinued Products
    While Epicor HCM is functional for enterprises with many branch locations, I feel that is best suited out of the box for locations with corporately centralized HR. This overcomes some of the shortcomings of security capability and the need to spend a lot of time in configuring routing. The CSS portion of Epicor HCM is not as robust as competing systems and should not be used if corporations are actively looking to onboard at a high rate.
    Incentivized
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    Varicent
    For the use cases we have at the bank, ICM is a perfect solution. For any bank or institution that has similar requirements, ICM would be a perfect solution. But I also think for any use case that has any sort of incentives based on Sales done, this would work amazing, as both Calculations and reports are handled by ICM very well; it's an all-in-one solution, I feel like.
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    Pros
    Discontinued Products
    • Security is always an issue with payroll/HR software. Security in Epicor HCM is very robust. In our manufacturing facility it is important that supervisors have access to their employee's information and the software allows me to limit access to only the correct department. There is also menu security that will allow me to remove access to features by user and grant access only to what they require to do the job.
    • This software is the repository for many different types of employee information. For example in the past we have tracked skills training by employee in either an Access database or an Excel spreadsheet. We are currently in the process of loading individual employee skill information which will allow us to query the database to pull any information that is not already a canned report in the system.
    • Payroll tax reports are handled by the system seamlessly. In our old system I had to keep confidential employees in a different "company" which meant I had to combine the two companies and do quarterly and year end tax reporting manually. The confidential flag in Epicor HCM allows me to utilize reports directly from the system and also creates the files needed to file online for both my quarterly SUI and W-2 reporting to SSA at year end.
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    Varicent
    • Flexibility - Varicent is not template based. You can implement the model specifically for your organisation.
    • Scalability - Since it is not stick to templates you are able to expand the model for other domains as well.
    • Reporting - Several ways of reporting are possible and each has their own benefit/purpose.
    • Strong/Powerfull Calculation Engine delivering fast results/speed to insight
    • User Interface is minimized to what you need and is not showing off all the functions it can "also" do
    • Strong audittrail
    • Appears to be almost unlimited in what you are able to create
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    Cons
    Discontinued Products
    • Administrative set-up is a nightmare --> Set-up such as e-mail templates (routing, candidate communication, alerts) and configuring security rights for users, includes looking at list of approximately 100 fields some of which seem like duplicates. Interestingly, you may find that the field you need is missing. You'll need to create a work-around or pay Professional Services to get it set-up correctly, even though they should logically be available. Another alternative is that you need to go to an obscure task under Utilities that you've never used before so you can uncheck a box.
    • Auto alerts seem like a great idea, but the set-up is limited in such a way that you will probably need a Filter SQL statement to get it the way you want. (Ex: No way on the birthday alert to simply filter to active employees. Get ready to send out over 500 alerts for ALL employees and dependents.) You can either ask someone in your IT department or again, go to Professional Services ($$$).
    • Routing also seems like a great idea but if you make too many changes in the routing set-up, it errors out and doesn't allow you to submit changes. Instead you must make only a few changes, submit, then go to the task again. Efficiency is not a concern for HCM. If you have more than 5-10 routes in the system for certain tasks, this can slow down the entire routing page, making you wait between 20-40 seconds to approve and go to the next route. This will make for a fun time during your annual review process when you've got 100+ reviews routed to you.
    • Epicor staff (except for customer support) are salespeople--first and foremost --> Glassdoor reviews show that Epicor "emphasizes billable hours above all else" -- we've experienced this firsthand. Most account managers, implementation and interface consultants will try get you on the phone (at a whopping $100-$300/hr) to talk about nothing and avoid delivering what you've paid them for. If they're not doing that, they may just ignore your e-mails and never get back to you.
    • Unreliable customer support --> Customer support staff seems understaffed and sometimes lack technical knowledge. Not surprising considering that HCM is so convoluted and frustrating. Even the most expert support reps are stumped by questions--the system is just that confusing. Sometimes there is no resolution at all so your call is turned into a service change request. Then you cross your fingers and hope it gets addressed in the next upgrade. I submitted one support call over two months ago. It is still open. Sadly that is not out of the norm.
    • Unexplainable errors in interfaces --> Payroll and benefits interfaces have been unreliable. Employee data changes are dropped with no explanation; ergo, there is no possible solution. Unless of course you want your benefits consultant to spend several hours ($$$) researching it or very, very slowly talking you through it over the phone.
    • Customizations that keep on breaking and breaking and breaking --> HCM releases updates almost twice a year, with "new and improved" features. Sometimes the features don't work, as if the software was updated without any testing or foresight. You'll find that customizations you've paid for have broken inexplicably and need to be re-done. Of course you will be charged for the extra hours needed to fix the customizations.
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    Varicent
    • As [the] model gets more and more transactional data, the calculation time increases. This should/can be handled internally with better model optimization.
    • Migrating from one env to other sometimes is challenging. There can be better 'Alerts' or 'Explanation' provided to handle it or at least to give a hint of the error.
    • For managers viewing their rep's report, the access part can be made easier. It should be linked to Payee hierarchy and access can be done automatically.
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    Likelihood to Renew
    Discontinued Products
    I just recently lost my job after 16 years, and purposely sought out a position where I could continue to work with HCM. I am now in a similar role to what I was in before, and can continue the same type of work and enhancements that I did at my other company.
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    Varicent
    Customer support from IBM is impeccable. They are quick to respond and they don't nickel and dime you for every request you make. Their goal is to ensure your success and as a user, I really feel like they listen to my concerns. That's not to say there are no problems. All software has its issues, but I don't feel like those issues fall on deaf ears.
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    Usability
    Discontinued Products
    Where it's good: Epicor HCM at a high level has a straight-forward interface for navigating to the main content sections at either the employee or HR administrator level. The interfaces are consistent throughout the application, and after a brief learning curve, one can navigate through the remainder of the interface pages in any content area without too much difficulty. HCM also has great tools for making sure the analysis of data is available and accessible to non-programmer personnel. Where it struggles: One thing working against the usability of the HCM product is the overuse of the row-selection scheme for all many to many relationships. HCM uses a "select the row from the left frame" and then "enter data corresponding to this row in the right frame" scheme for most of its data entry components. One example of overuse is the employee address entry. During the first setup of an employee or during a candidate's application, HCM allows the user to specify multiple addresses. While this functionality is desired for long-term storage, an option doesn't exist to forgo this interface type for quick initial entry for the primary use case (one address per employee). This is one example, but is particularly visible when a candidate must also bridge the learning curve.
    Incentivized
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    Varicent
    Any calculations can be implemented as there are hardly any limitations on complexity. However, online real-time usability is lacking - a simple user enters, and the system calculates work in a way that it is in the browser and hence still needs overnight to be properly reflected in the batch calculations and backend tables.
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    Reliability and Availability
    Discontinued Products
    The product was always available.
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    Varicent
    Never went down in last 3 years that I worked with it (every hour of the day basically). That is a 10 in my book.
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    Performance
    Discontinued Products
    The product performs well. As with any software there are bugs and system enhancements needed, but there are channels in place to let Epicor know what they are so they can add to future versions. Open Enrollment and Salary Planning can be a bit slow at times.
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    Varicent
    All is fast, but with API's it is sometimes slower due to the application we are pulling data from. Reports are loaded directly or within seconds and our reports are very detailed with many columns and rows.
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    Support Rating
    Discontinued Products
    There have been a lot of issues with it at first, but we've been figuring a lot of them out on our own. Needing patches to the program though is something that I didn't expect to happen as often as it does.
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    Varicent
    Giving a 10 would suggest there is no room for improvement. I don't feel like their support is perfect. However, I have never met another team that was more dedicated to making sure we get what we want and need.
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    In-Person Training
    Discontinued Products
    We had someone from Epicor come on site to do training, and we "shared" our trainer with another company who was also doing the same major upgrade. It was nice to have another company there so we could ask each other (and the trainer) questions. This allowed for more meaningful discussions during training.
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    Varicent
    The training was good in general with a nice trainer as well. But, the training could be better if it is more focussed on our process/data etc.
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    Online Training
    Discontinued Products
    No answers on this topic
    Varicent
    There is a learning portal with many videos about navigation, creating reports and managing your model.
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    Implementation Rating
    Discontinued Products
    As stated earlier, you won't find all of the problems and things that you would like to improve on until you implement. After go-live, you then will have a long period of adjustment as you get the data and processes to work the way that you really want them to.
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    Varicent
    Test test test. Make sure that the product is calculating everyone 100% correctly. DO NOT accept a 70% pass rate as some companies would like to have you believe is acceptable. This means conducting thorough testing by providing 100% of all expected results, but it will be worth it when you know that the compensation plans are working entirely as expected.
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    Alternatives Considered
    Discontinued Products
    Epicor pales in comparison to the HRIS and report building systems listed above. Unfortunately, Epicor was implemented prior to my joining the organization. From what I was told, Epicor was chosen because of its ability to be customizable to any industry. However, what we have learned is that this isn't the whole truth. While Epicor might be able to customize to your specific industry with creating certain data fields, it still cannot function properly to meet the needs of your respective industry. For example, my industry is education. There are numerous grant propasals that we send that require specific demographic information. Consequently, when we try to run a report in Epicor, that information is never captured with accuracy which makes sending these reports for grants a herculean task, especially when these donors question our data.
    Incentivized
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    Varicent
    In 2015, we used a scorecard containing 80 attributes in our review of Oracle, Callidus, and Xactly & Varicent. Oracle did not have true self serve capabilities- programming was heavily required, not intuitive, out of the box functionality was limited. Callidus & Xactly could not provide us a demo using our data, statements could not be sent out in bulk form, difficulty in importing/exporting to CRM. Varicent excelled in most areas and was the clear winner.
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    Scalability
    Discontinued Products
    Performance is not noticeably impacted by adding more users. Microsoft IIS and SQL are Epicor HCM's underlying technology and have proven reliability. In addition, IS staff are easy to find that know these technologies.
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    Varicent
    It is very scalable and adaptable to changing complexities of calculations and business rules under a variety of different scenarios. It does not get full points because in large data loads the time needed to calculate and import the data increases exponentially and may cause issues related to timing potentially.
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    Return on Investment
    Discontinued Products
    • Epicor HCM had a positive impact on our ROI by matching the right employees to specific roles based on their set of skills and competencies.
    • The tool positively impacted the performance and efficiencies throughout the different corporate departments.
    • It could have a negative impact on user satisfaction when it comes to support and response time.
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    Varicent
    • Compliance - with a central system used for calculation incentive payments and commissions, we are able to provide reports and data showing every detail of how payments are calculated and why they are justified. We can also identify anomalies and outliers.
    • Integration with our payroll system is seamless. Except for regular pay, nothing goes to payroll without going through ICM. The process for paying incentives/bonuses/commissions is now very structured and efficient.
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    ScreenShots

    Varicent Screenshots

    Screenshot of Varicent providing clarity and transparency to sellers, helping them to find answers faster and have confidence in compensation plans.Screenshot of Tools for sellers that help them align strategic initiatives, and that help them understand which deals will help them win.Screenshot of Varicent ICM model compensation plans that display the financial impact of changes. Its ability to more accurately forecast commission payouts with “what-if” assumptions, users can budget more effectively for sales compensation costs, manage target total compensation for sales representatives and assess plan effectiveness.Screenshot of Shareable information sent to the right people to drive the right results.