erwin Data Modeler vs. Toad Data Point

If you have a database environment that gets frequent schema object change requests. erwin Data Modeler is a great tool for version control and release control. Also, it's very useful to communicate between database and application teams.

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Toad Data Point is the clear tool of choice if the end-user is interested in reports that are relatively simple to build using SQL code and export to Excel. It is less useful if the analyst also needs to run statistical models on the data and visualize the data for those functions I usually use RStudio or Jupyter Notebook which incorporates those features much more seamlessly.

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• Creation of logical data models
• Reverse engineering
• Excellent communication tool in conversations with Developers and BAs
• As a company, Erwin provides lots of tutorials and how-tos.

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• Ease of use. It is a very easy product to use without any particular training.
• Multiple data source connection. It easily connects to multiple data sources which allows you to use different data sources to run reports.
• Seamless application. Once you set everything up-- whether it is an FTP or export of data-- you can set it and forget it!

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• erwin Data Modeler allows only 25 entities in a trial version. It really limits you when you want to try out the product before actually deciding to pay for licensing cost. It would be rather helpful if they limit the trial period by days instead.
• The UI is pretty good but sometimes the large diagrams are hard to manage. A little improvement in that area would be helpful.

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• The program can error out when reconnecting to a database from a timeout but that is easily fixed by restarting the program.
• If you aren't familiar with database tools the UI can be overwhelming to some.

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The product is well designed and intuitive to use. The number of buttons and options can look a bit overwhelming initially but they come very handy when you get used to product.

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I find Toad Data Point easy to use for both the novice and the experienced business analyst. If all you desire is to access data and create spreadsheets...this is a snap. Toad Data Point actually has cool data analysis features built into it. The newer workflow interface makes automating steps a snap

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CA customer support and our account manager have been able to support us with any issues that we have had, from managing our serial keys to issues we logged tickets to resolve. There are aspects of key management that have made it difficult over the years but support usually has worked with us.

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I have used few other data modeling tools like Toad Data Modeler and SQL Developer Data Modeler. erwin Data Modeler is easy to use and has additional features that make overall data modeling productive and easy to manage.

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TOAD excels at connecting to divergent data sources, but appears geared more to DBAs than to regular query users. Microsoft's offerings excel against Microsoft SQL Server, but sometimes struggle with other data sources. However, SSMS and vs code excel at many developer productivity/workflow enhancements. vs code, in particular, has a lively extension system that allows it to be tailored for development/querying/model building/etc. That flexibility comes at a cost - the learning curve is steep for new users. The tradeoff between complexity and power may not be good for some environments/users/situations.

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• Reduced rework from when models were maintained individually.
• Reduced the amount of time to generate and compare models during development.
• Massively reduced the amount of time to reverse engineer 3rd party data models for analysis.

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• It is the least common denominator - not particularly optimized for our environment or workflows.
• Hangs or slowdowns add anywhere from 5% - 7% for projects utilizing large/complicated data setts. (This could be due to other IT-imposed constraints and not entirely due to TOAD.)
• Trying to perform some operations requires reading documentation and experimenting in order to figure out the TOAD-specific approaches and commands.
• It just works (when we understand it). Updates don't break things and things don't suddenly start behaving differently. Best of all, we don't mysteriously lose functionality.

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